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Posted on Wednesday, February 05 @ 17:22:17 UTC by just_dave
In the News Brandon Vedas

"I told u I was hardcore."

Those were the last coherent words Brandon Vedas, 21, typed into the computer in his Phoenix bedroom as he showed off for Internet pals watching on a Web cam by swallowing more and more prescription drugs.

Vedas died online as a crowd of virtual onlookers egged him to "eat more!" A chilling record of the Jan. 12 chat reads like an Internet version of the notorious 1964 Kew Gardens, Queens, stabbing of Kitty Genovese as her neighbors watched from their windows.

In Vedas' case, some did try to help — begging him to stop, to call 911, to get his mother from the next room. After he passed out, some tried frantically to figure out his location while others argued against getting involved.

But the technology that brought as many as a dozen chatters into the intimacy of Vedas' bedroom was unable to tell them where he was. Internet Relay Chat is anonymous, and no one in the drug users' chat group knew the last name of the young man who called himself Ripper.

From the NY Daily News, more inside



In Internet discussion groups, users trade tips on how to fake symptoms to con a doctor into prescribing pain relievers, tranquilizers, stimulants and sedatives.

By his own account, bragging in the hour before he died, Vedas ingested large doses of Klonopin, Methadone, Restoril and Inderal, along with marijuana and 151-proof rum. All but the pot and the rum apparently were legally prescribed for him by a doctor and a psychiatric nurse, according to his angry and mystified family.

"It's the ideal situation — it's legal and it's free," said Vedas' brother Rich. "And most people assume that if a doctor is giving you something, it must be fine."

Vedas, who worked in computer support at the University of Phoenix, knew a lot about the dangers of mixing drugs. But he also bragged delusionally about his "high tolerance." His mother knew he had been prescribed pills for depression — but no one in the family knew he was mixing his medicine for fun, his brother said.

On the night of Jan. 12, Vedas urged chat pals to log onto his Web site and watch him go through his stash. "Bottoms up, fellas!" he crowed.

"Don't OD on us, Ripper," said one of the onlookers watching Vedas swallow pill after pill.

"That's not much," said a teenager from rural Oklahoma who calls himself Smoke2K. "Eat more. I wanna see if you survive or if you just black out."

In the macho atmosphere of the druggie chat room, Vedas seemed to have something to prove. "This is usual weekend behavior. U all said I was lying," he said.

He said it was safe and noted, "My mom is in the next room doing crozzwordz."

As he took more and more, Vedas' typing became disjointed. His chat pals cheered him on.

"Ripper — you should try to pass out in front of the cam," suggested one gleeful voyeur.

Vedas even tried to protect himself against disaster.

"In fase anything goe wrong," he said, typing his cell phone number. "Call if I look dead."

Soon, he did.



Soon, he was.



"I am online with 911. Is this the right choice?" asked one chatter. "NO NO NO NO NO," said another. "I talked my way out of it," came the reply. "I didn't give them any info."

In the end, there was nothing they could do.

Vedas' cell phone was off or not loud enough to rouse anyone else in the house. They looked up his Web site registry, but he had listed his home number as 555-1234.

And the online chatters didn't know his real name or location.

His mother found him at 1 p.m. the next day sprawled on his bed. The tech whiz's computer had shut down and locked itself automatically, so it wasn't until more than a week later that the family found out his death had had witnesses.

"It seems like the group mentality really contributed to it," said his brother, calling the transcript "disgusting."

"These people treat it like somehow it's not the real world," he said. "They forget it's not just words on a screen."

Originally published on February 1, 2003

There's more, absolutely not for the squeamish... I'm not sure I want to post this but there's one way to find out....

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Re: Suicide On A Live Webcam!?! (Score: 1)
by Darth Liberus on Wednesday, February 05 @ 17:31:48 UTC
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another one for the Darwin Awards.

in all my years as an armchair pharmacist, I never once thought "high tolerance" was anything to brag about. it just means you're wasting money. idiot.


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Re: Suicide On A Live Webcam!?! (Score: 1)
by BlackFlag on Wednesday, February 05 @ 18:47:36 UTC
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most of the people i know with a 'high tolerance' for weed aren't even smoking it right.


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Re: Suicide On A Live Webcam!?! (Score: 1)
by Dark Knight Bob on Wednesday, February 05 @ 18:16:18 UTC
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another idiot did us a favour and gave us more precious oxygen to use.

If you actually look at the logs half of it is overlapped incoherance by everyone people expect IRC to be like a normal conversation. when you get 5 people talking at the same time you haven't got a chance.

I agree with the guy egging him on he's an idiot for listening to him and its his own fault.


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Re: Suicide On A Live Webcam!?! (Score: 1)
by ltleshedevil on Wednesday, February 05 @ 18:30:42 UTC
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That is seriously fucked up and really disturbing to read. For some reason I just want to punch that kid that kept saying "ripper is a gangster!".


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Re: Suicide On A Live Webcam!?! (Score: 1)
by cyrek on Thursday, February 06 @ 02:41:14 UTC
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I think Pnutbot was/is a pseudo-AI IRC bot. Its responses seem creepily human, but they follow a pattern. Single words seem to attract its attention - every time someone mentions 'ripper's nick, it includes the annoying 'gangster' phrase.

The way 'ripper' died can't have been a pleasant way to go. The piece of your mind that stays with the real world would be going 'Oh *****, what have I done' over and over and over. Then pain then darkness. *shudder*


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Re: Suicide On A Live Webcam!?! (Score: 1)
by BlackFlag on Thursday, February 06 @ 06:40:27 UTC
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it WAS a bot. they were even changing its responses. they changed the respnce for "poisen control" from "poisen control is on the line!@" to "1-800-xxx-xxxx" (whatever that number was), and telling it to forget annoying responces.


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Re: Suicide On A Live Webcam!?! (Score: 1)
by ltleshedevil on Thursday, February 06 @ 20:15:44 UTC
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well thats still pretty fucked up. Seeing some kid overdose over a webcam is one thing i dont think i could handle. And I have seen people get killed before, but watching someone do it themselves, is just to sad.


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Re: Suicide On A Live Webcam!?! (Score: 1)
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Advocate moronicide.


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Re: Suicide On A Live Webcam!?! (Score: 1)
by redpanic on Wednesday, February 05 @ 19:47:42 UTC
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I'm sure the response of "ripper is a ganster!!!" was just set to trigger whenever anyone typed "ripper". Seems like it was set to respond to a few key phrases. Anyways, I guess it doesn't matter anymore.

If the kid thought for a second he wouldn't die after taking all that, then he was stupid. I feel bad for his family. Noone else is to blame for what he did, I don't care what they were saying in the chatroom.

Wonder if this will set of a chain of copycat "view my suicidecam" events.


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Re: Suicide On A Live Webcam!?! (Score: 1)
by jingo on Wednesday, February 05 @ 20:17:11 UTC
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'Wonder if this will set of a chain of copycat "view my suicidecam" events.'

We can only hope.


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tell that to their parents.


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Re: Suicide On A Live Webcam!?! (Score: 1)
by serial_crusher on Wednesday, February 05 @ 19:39:40 UTC
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Think those logs should have a "don't try this at home" on them?
Don't want this kids family getting sued every time some other idiot ODs like that.


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by forumwhore on Wednesday, February 05 @ 19:51:44 UTC
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Yes, someone suggested there was a bot, and there was; it had "bot" at the end of its name and responded to trigger words like "ripper".


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Re: Suicide On A Live Webcam!?! (Score: 1)
by skyworksvideo on Saturday, February 08 @ 16:38:30 UTC
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this is sickening...how someone can really think they are having a thrill by ending their life online. i have webcammed and Irc'd and this makes ya think whos next and what drives these ppl.


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Re: Suicide On A Live Webcam!?! (Score: 1)
by dbcooper on Thursday, August 28 @ 16:10:22 UTC
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he wasn't trying to commit suicide. he was showing off his "high tolerance"


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by Maroushka on Wednesday, February 12 @ 14:19:40 UTC
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When this first went down my friend got a copy of the log the day after it happened. We had a good laugh. Ripper's last words, typed while sitting at home in an IRC chatroom, yeah, he was real hardcore.



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I told you I was ---- ::thud:: (Score: 1)
by Zen_Of_Earth on Monday, February 17 @ 01:27:15 UTC
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Way to go "Ripper".

I remember reading about this one right after it happened. I wish it would happen more often. The herd definately needs to be culled.

I hope the next idiot that decides to off themselves in front of an audience is rich and puts it on Pay-Per-View. With "Mean" Gene commentating alongside Don "The Dragon" Wilson. We could have commercial breaks with advertisements for prescription drugs. A woman with huge fake boobs can hold up big signs telling the audience the drug he's currently shoveling into his mouth and in what ammount.

Maybe we should have two idiots competing to outdo one another. The Nitro Girls can cheer them on as the rest of us place bets on who is going to croak first, and which drug will do them in.

Oh the possibilities...


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