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Women as priests?
Posted on Monday, August 05 @ 19:13:18 BST by jim
Politics redpanic writes:
The Associated Press

VATICAN CITY -- The Vatican has excommunicated seven women who claim to be priests and refuse to repent, saying Monday that the group had "wounded" the Roman Catholic Church.

The women -- from Austria, Germany and the United States -- participated in an ordination ceremony June 29 carried out by Romulo Braschi, an Argentine who calls himself an archbishop but whom the Vatican rejects. The Church's guardian of orthodoxy, Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, set a July 22 deadline for the women to reverse their claims.

However, the women did not "give any indication of amendment or repentance for the most serious offense they had committed," the Vatican said in a statement signed by Ratzinger of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, announcing the excommunication.

The statement expressed hope, however, that the women would eventually return to the fold.

"The Congregation trusts that, by the grace of the Holy Spirit, the above-mentioned persons may rediscover the path of conversion in order to return to the unity of the faith and to communion with the Church, which they have wounded by their actions."

One of the women, Christine Mayr-Lumetzberger, described the Vatican decision as "a further act of discrimination against women in the Catholic Church."

"For us nothing at all changes," she told the Austria Press Agency. "We stand single-mindedly, unwaveringly by our vocation."
Mayr-Lumetzberger, who is acting as spokeswoman for the group, said the women would appeal the decision.

Pope John Paul II has made clear he sees no room for debate about the possibility of opening up the priesthood to women. The Church says Jesus chose men to be his apostles and that the practice of ordaining only men must stand.

The excommucated women were identified as Mayr-Lumetzberger and Adelinde Theresia Roitinger, both of Austria; Gisela Forster, Iris Muller, Ida Raming and Pia Brunner, all of Germany; and Angela White of the United States.

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So how far do we take this equal rights stuff? Does it transcend religion? Politics? Both?


 
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Re: Women as priests? (Score: 1)
by Jesse on Tuesday, August 06 @ 17:13:25 BST
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I'd say that equal rights as a political issue has nothing to do with this. There is no grounds for the U.S. government to take any legal action against anybody for this. Seperation of state and church, the Vatican can't tell Washington that only men can be senetors, and Washington can't tell the Vatican (or the United States part of the Church) that women can be priests. The most that any polititian can do is lobby the Pope to change the policy.


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Re: Women as priests? (Score: 1)
by redpanic (ropeadope@bigbadmofo.com) on Tuesday, August 06 @ 19:05:25 BST
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Agreed. I was basically getting at the right or wrong of the issue. If all people were created equal, as we're led to believe, then how does the Vatican justify this? That's just it. As a political issue, it's all about equal rights. As a religious issue, it's about being created equal. *shrug*


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