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Beastie Dr 
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Posted on: May 16 2002,05:11 |
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http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/dope/talk
I've been thinking a lot about this lately, but I honestly feel sick about it now. I'm reading all of these opinions, seeing how many people agree with me, realizing it is a fraction of a percent of the total. Then, realizing we are powerless to fight against a government that is supposed to represent us. How can they do that, when they don't even tell the truth to us?
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Bozeman
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Posted on: May 16 2002,06:08 |
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I'm sorry to hear your disheartenment Beastie Dr. Sadly, the cry of futility in this point is the norm. You can't vote for a major party candidate who is pro-marijuana, because they don't exist. If you can't be active, try to do what small things you can. Stick up for the cause to relatives, friends, or even strangers who try to say it's a "gateway drug," or "ruining America." Remain calm, and present your side smootly, without name calling or accusations. If everyone who believed in ending the drug war stuck up for what they believe in, and did what little they could, perhaps the bleak future could have a bright outcome.
I'm not the one who should be talking, I've never TRIED pot. Hear some real good stuff by listening to Jello Biafra's newest album, "Become the Media," or an older one "I Blow Minds For A Living."
"We need fuel, we need paper. It's almost gone, where are we going to get more? The answer for centuries has been right under our nose: GROW MORE POT!"
-Jello Biafra, Grow More Pot, "I Blow Minds For A Living"
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Beldurin
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Posted on: May 16 2002,08:43 |
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And remind me again of the good side of pot? I can't seem to remember.
This may be an unpopular view around here, but I think illicit drugs are that way for a reason: they're harmful. And don't give me that shit about alcohol being worse than marijuanna, because I don't buy that arguement...at all.
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Necromancer
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Posted on: May 16 2002,14:56 |
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yes because the world of drugs is all happy and smiley. remember kids hemp makes a good strong rope.
Simple fact you can't get passively drunk. Pot has some good uses for medicinal purposes (though i doubt thats the real reason why most people use that as an excuse to get it legalised) but then leeches was a good idea for cortarising wounds.
all drugs are used irresponsibly by the masses. This doesnt give the few people who do use certain drugs "responsibly" the right to complain about it being illegal.
the government has enough trouble funding educational schemes on alcohol and nicotine abuse without having to deal with pot as well.
And pot is addictive. it's a psycological addiction.
Hey i don't expect you to agree with me but anything that involves inhaling fumes into your lungs is stupid. Theres only one thing thats 100% healthy to breath in them things and thats oxygen (and inert gases but thats neither here no there cos they're fucking inert)
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CatKnight
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Posted on: May 16 2002,18:11 |
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i like what they did in england. it's still illegal but the punishment is basically just a slap on the wrist for possession.
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veistran
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Posted on: May 16 2002,18:26 |
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| Quote (Beldurin @ 16 May 2002,02:43) | And remind me again of the good side of pot? I can't seem to remember.
This may be an unpopular view around here, but I think illicit drugs are that way for a reason: they're harmful. And don't give me that shit about alcohol being worse than marijuanna, because I don't buy that arguement...at all. |
Medically speaking, from all I've ever been able to find the main difference between alcohol and pot is that they can cause different kinds of cancer if they're abused.
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Beastie Dr
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Posted on: May 16 2002,20:48 |
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Yeah, I'm not for complete legalization by any means, that would cause too many problems. The truth is, the nation is too conservative to deal with it. I'm for decriminalization, say, a fine in the $150-$200 range for anything over a gram, but it doesn't go on your record once it's paid. As for the statement that the government already has enough to pay for, that's just fucking stupid. Remember, we spend $10 Billion on the drug war with NO RESULT.
As for "responsible" use, remember: a drug is a drug, be it marijuana or alcohol. No physical addiction, and, personally, I have never, ever, felt a psycological need to smoke
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BlackFlag
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Posted on: May 16 2002,21:05 |
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its not physicaly addictive, but i do know people who are psycologicly dependant (addicted). Its a really fucked up thing.
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Beastie Dr
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Posted on: May 16 2002,23:29 |
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I know some of these people too, but all of them were complete idiots before they started smoking. Some people who smoke a lot and don't stop seem to be socially stunted. A good example from a friend of mine:
"I don't go out looking to smoke, but we always get around to it, somehow. You sit there, 'What to do?' And we always end up smoking for lack of anything better."
Edited by Beastie Dr on Jan. 01 1970,01:00
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Necromancer
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Posted on: May 17 2002,01:21 |
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yes they may be idiots, but the law is there to protect those idiots from themselves. If everyone were logically thinking and thought everything through we wouldnt need laws now would we 
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