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PostIcon Posted on: Sep. 05 2000,18:43  Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

Ok, cell phones do have their place. They are great if there is an emergency, or you get lost and need directions, or if your car breaks down.

What I can't stand are the people who find it completely acceptable to be driving and talking on their cell phones. Most of the people on the roads barely have enough brainpower to drive (see my Don't use their blinkers rant), let alone drive and talk at the same time. Most of the people I see driving really stupidly or dangerously are on their cell phones.

WHAT IS SO FUCKING IMPORTANT THAT YOU MUST RISK YOUR LIFE AND THE LIVES OF EVERY MOTORIST WITHIN A HALF MILE RADIUS OF YOU?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Just hang up the phone if it is personal, or pull over at the next exit and call them back! If it is a very important business call, then pull over and take it. But don’t' be driving around in rush hour traffic paying more attention to your phone than to your driving!

The city I live in is considering a ban on hand held cell phones while in a moving vehicle if you are driving. Great! More people will live! I would go as far as to say that even hands free cell phones should be banned. I've heard of a product being developed called a 'Cell buster' that looks like a smoke detector and that jams cell phone signals. We must line the highways and freeways of every country in the world with these things. That will stop them!

Anyone else agree/disagree?

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My personal opinion on that is that hands-free units should be fine. It's no different than talking to someone else in the car. Having a phone in your hand means you can only keep one on the wheel, which goes against most things preached in driver's ed. Though it's more difficult to look like an ultra-important person if people can't see your phone up against your face.

Just my opinion. Besides, a hands-free unit gives you the option of more communication power since it's not up against your head.

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PostIcon Posted on: Sep. 05 2000,21:26 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

Totally agree. I think they are danger....

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actually, its statistically proven, that even with hands free phones, its about as dangerous as driving somewhat drunk. it has a little to do with the hand thing, but also the actual conversing. let me use the example most people use, that its just like talking to someone in the passenger seat. wrong. when you talk to someone in the passenger seat, with the exception of blind/near blind people, they will often see whats going on, which means, when you come up to a four car pileup in process, they arent gonna keep having a conversation with you about whatever, theyre gonna shut up and let you concentrate. now, your talking on your cell phone (hands free or not, doesnt matter), until we have vidphones, they are not going to know whats going on, and so they cant conveniently stop the conversation to let you drive. thusly, youre in much more danger when talking on a cell phone.

dont do it, foo.

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...its about as dangerous as driving somewhat drunk......so they cant conveniently stop the conversation to let you drive. thusly, youre in much more danger when talking on a cell phone.

That's the same kind of irresponsible crap that's shown up here time and time again. Are you honestly saying that the driver couldn't say "Holy shit! There's an accident ahead!" and have the person on the other end realize what was going on? People in the back seat of the car don't always see what's ahead either. Don't try to place the blame on the person on the other side of the phone.

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PostIcon Posted on: Sep. 05 2000,23:47 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

this post may be a bit irrational and emotional. i apologize, but this is a highly charged topic for me.

three years ago i was in the back seat of a stopped car that was rear ended by another car. the driver of the other car never attempted to slow down. she was going 65 mph in a posted 45 mph zone. she was also on her cell phone.

thanks to the fact that her attention was on her conversation and not on the road, four people nearly died. would i care as much if this was just some tv news story? probably not. but it happened to me. i don't give a shit what business you have to do, what grocery list you forgot, whose anniversary it is, it's not worth my life. if you wanna make phone calls, get off the road.

being on a cell phone while driving, whether it's hands-free or hand-held, removes your ability to pay adequate attention to the road. luckily, i'm living proof that divided attention on the road is a bad idea. it could easily have been worse. paying attention to anything other than driving can kill someone. this includes talking to other people in the car, singing and "dancing" along to the radio, eating your breakfast/lunch/dinner, reading the newspaper, applying make-up, making notes in your pda, etc (ever see those Lexus safety ads?). keep your hands on the wheel, your eyes on the road, and your brain on the driving, cause i don't want any free trips to the morgue.

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PostIcon Posted on: Sep. 05 2000,23:59 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

Biking around campus, I see al ot of people who drive while using cell phones. I also see a lot of bike riders/skateboarders with headphones. Will they ever learn?
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PostIcon Posted on: Sep. 06 2000,00:29 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

so observer, how many real world tests have you performed on this topic? how about my proof comes from actualy tests done, and not me just not liking people who drive with cell phones. although i do tend to dislike cell phones, thats not what inspired me to write that fact based post. youd be suprised how some people will be so involved in their conversation that they wont notice the accident ahead
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Sith, I couldn't agree more.. There have been times when I've been a passenger and answered our cell. Just to see if I could do it, I tired to pay attention to the road and the person on the phone at the same time.. it didn't work, it I concentrated on the road, I'd loose track of the conversation, and if I concentrated on the conversation I'd loose track of the road. Its even worse on those puny little finger sized things, because there is no way in hell to squeeze that thing between your shoulder and head.

If I'm using the larger one.. which is more like a car phone then a cell, I can prop it on my shoulder, keep eyes on the road and both hands on the wheel and basiclly "uh-huh" whatever they're saying, and can usually get the main gist of what was said.

Of course this could be because I'm used to driving while talking on a VHF 2-way a lot of the time as well. But trust me, thats a lot different then a cell phone, people don't/can't ramble on over those.

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Originally posted by Sithiee:
youd be suprised how some people will be so involved in their conversation that they wont notice the accident ahead

That was my point. What's the difference between talking on a hands-free phone and talking to someone else in the car. I'm not going to re-hash me previous post over this. I personally know people who have a difficult time driving and carrying on a conversation with passengers! That doesn't involve a cell phone, and that was the point I was trying to make.

BTW, quote your sources and context when you say "statistically proven". Numbers can be manipulated to mean anything you like.

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