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CatKnight 
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Posted on: Jun. 12 2002,21:26 |
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switzerland just passed a law that says any anti-homosexuality speech is punishable by a jail sentence. meaning, if a priest at a private church says that homosexuality is wrong, and some gay guy just happened to go to that church with a tape recorder just out of spite, the priest would be sent to prison (and likely raped by homosexuals in the process). this is just a rediculous piece of legislation and will hopefully be vetoed (although I don't count on it). expect these whackos to come to the US next...
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TheTaxMan
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Posted on: Jun. 13 2002,00:33 |
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It's retarded that legislation like this is neccessary.
Fuck off, all of you bigots.
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CatKnight
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Posted on: Jun. 13 2002,00:36 |
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what! 
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TheTaxMan
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Posted on: Jun. 13 2002,01:51 |
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What I -ment- to say...
It is retarded that some people even need to think legislation like this is neccessary.
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CatKnight
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Posted on: Jun. 13 2002,02:25 |
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jeez you scared me for a second there. 
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Darth Liberus
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Posted on: Jun. 13 2002,12:30 |
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It's nothing to worry about. European countries have been censoring and banning groups for centuries... what do you think inspired the First Amendment?
Since I know you're going to bring up hate speech legislation, just remember that laws that infringe on the First Amendment are routinely thrown out by the Supreme Court... they like free speech so much that they even let you burn the flag!
Edited by Darth Liberus on Jan. 01 1970,01:00
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kuru
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Posted on: Jun. 13 2002,13:47 |
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Ten years ago if you had said that some day it would be a law that 'hate' would be illegal, and that the murder of a minority or a gay person would be considered 'worse' than the murder of a straight peson or a white person, they would've been laughed at.
Today we have 'Hate Crimes' laws, where crimes are 'more serious' if the victim is the member of a protected group.
Give it another ten years and the argument will be 'a preacher can't call gay people sinners because that's not protected by the First Amendment.'
Those who would want that kind of legislation here find the people who ignore their aim by saying 'it can't happen here' to be a great asset. It means there's little resistance. The only way it won't happen here is if it's fought tooth and nail.
And 'hate speech legislation' is a crock of shit. The First Amendment is based on the principle that the citizens have the inherent right to speak critically about any group, not just the groups on the 'approved to hate' list.
IOW, 'hate speech legislation' would make it illegal to say you hate gays or black people, but it would still be OK to say you hate straights or white people.
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Jynx
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Posted on: Jun. 13 2002,17:46 |
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Kuru's right, and here's a scary thought - with the advent of "hate crimes", the US has officially brought another one of Orwell's concepts to reality: thoughtcrime.
Think about it, it will scare you.
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veistran
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Posted on: Jun. 13 2002,18:16 |
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the stupidest part of hate crimes laws is that if you're killing them, you're either doing it because you _hate_ them or because you're a sick fuck. Now if you _hate_ them enough to kill them, how can you hate them more? Well according to hate crimes laws it's possible. And if you're just a sick fuck, well you're probably an EO killer.
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Wolfguard
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Posted on: Jun. 13 2002,18:21 |
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Judge: its a hate crime!
Wolfguard: cant be. hate crimes come from hating one group of people more than another. I hate the entire human race as it stands right now. Therefore, its just murder.
Judge: But you killed a (insert minority here)
Wolfguard: If thats your point of view you must not see them as human and this has just become a case of animal abuse.
Yeah, i would defend myself against a charge of a hate crime 
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