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PostIcon Posted on: Mar. 18 2001,15:44  Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

i decided to install debian linux the other day, which was a pain in the ass but i've install linux before so i was able to get just about everything installed (no sound with my a3d card )

anyway my problem is this: lilo is a pain in my ass. at first it installed to my windows partition (over writing the windows boot info (i guess)) we moved it somewhere else, where i do not know (it doesn't seem to matter either), ok lilo prompt: if i type linux it boots linux no problem, if i type windows it takes me to a NEW lilo prompt. if i type linux at the new lilo prompt it gives me a error 0x40 (if i type windows again it will continue to give me a new lilo prompt)

i don't want to reinstall windows, i'll lose all my porn and mp3's (and other things)

i have fdisked the mbr, i don't know how to fdisk just the windows partition boot stuff (if there is such a thing) my lilo.conf is right, i can get to dos with a windows boot disk (in fact every few times i boot up i have to use it to boot to dos so my ethernet card works in linux, it's crazy (stupid sis 900 chips))

i would like to take the time to thank the opensource bitches for not a goddamn thing, stuck up no good motherfuckers!!!

any ideas?

edit: does that make any sense? i'm sick so i didn't really think it out before i typed it (and i don't feel like retyping at this point)


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well first of all, don't install linux and windows on the same hard drive. its just a pain getting lilo to work. if you wanna save your pr0n and crap, i'd suggest booting using a win98 boot disk. you can drag it over the network or burn it on a cd or somethin... then i'd wipe the drive and start over. and next time, buy a cheap 10gb and use it for linux, then you can have it so that it'll boot into windows unless you stick in a linux boot disk.

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first and formost: linux bootdisk=slow as shit 5 min to boot an operating system that usually only takes about 30sec, the windows bootdisk is better than the linux (explain that).

also i don't have the cash flow to get new drives everytime i fuck something up me=broke, i use a shit ass monitor with no green (so the screen has a nice pink tint to it) with 30gig of space i thought i could manage 5 gigs to linux.

guess i'm going to reformat the windows partition (not going to install anything in case it doesn't fix my problems (my friend burnt the porn and mp3s the other day so i sould be fine i guess (just a lot of wasted time on a stupid problem))

will let ya know if it is fixed


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PostIcon Posted on: Mar. 18 2001,18:28 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

another question?

can you get your scroll wheel to work under linux?
having to move the scroll bar with the mouse has been pissing me off

i have a microsoft intellipoint optical mouse (its the cheap(er) optical mouse without all the extra buttons)

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PostIcon Posted on: Mar. 18 2001,20:44 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

well i am not very good with linux, so can't really help with the mouse
but i did install linux slakware on the same partition as windows before, had same problem u have and then spent about 3 weeks trying to get windows to boot, tried almost anything i could think of and still couldn't do it
eventually i just booted from dos, deleted all linux files and reinstalled windows (all my files were still there). then i backed everything on my other computer, split harddrive in two partitions with fdisk, formatted both partitions. installed windows on one then installed linux on the other and it worked perfectly.
this probably won't help u much, but i just thought i'll share my experience

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PostIcon Posted on: Mar. 18 2001,22:13 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

for the sound - A3D sound drivers are almost non-exsitent. You're better off with *gulp*... onboard sound.

I would also recommend not installing Doors and Tux on the same drive, but if you really "have to", then so be it.

Crack open some version of Partition Magic, or if you can't get your hands on a version of that go for FIPS.exe (comes on most linux install disc's). Make your two partitions and be happy. Using fdisk or whatever your version of linux uses, delete the partition you just made and add new ones in for what you need in linux. All you really did with that partition you just made was make the space (note - if you got an error in fips when making the disk, do a scan disk then a defrag).

That'll get your drives setup. If lilo is fucking up, I'd recommend seeing if you can reinstall or upgrade to a newer version. I used to have a problem where lilo would just get the "LI" of the prompt, and freeze up. If you plan on leaving your linux stuff running for a while at a time(days on end), you're probably better off with using bootdisks anyway. Yeah, I won't be the last to say it, but it takes really long for 'em to start, but it's not a terrible idea either. If anything, see if you can find some linux users around your area to help out, cuz I've always found getting someone who knows what they're doing to sit down and goof with it is better then most other things.

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I have Win98SE, Win2K, and Linux all booting from the same HD.

The key is this :

1. Boot from a Linux boot/rootdisk combo (Slackware provides good ones). Use Linux fdisk or cfdisk to make a reasonable (mine's 2GB) ext2fs partition. DON'T INSTALL LINUX YET - the partition is just to make sure you can use LILO later on, since LILO doesn't like to boot a partion with a starting cylinder > 1023

2. Install Win98 into its own partition (2-4GB). MAKE THIS THE BOOT PARTITION.

3. Install Linux. Install LILO into the MBR. Add an option to lilo.conf to boot /dev/hda2 (your Win98 partition).

My setup is a little more complicated, but here's the partition layout (* means boot partition) :

code:

OS / Filesystem Address
+++++++++++++++++ 0 GB
+ Win98 FAT32* +
+++++++++++++++++ 2 GB
+ Linux ext2fs +
+++++++++++++++++ 4 GB
+ Win2K NTFS +
+++++++++++++++++ 8 GB
+ Shared FAT32 +
+++++++++++++++++ 30 GB

/home on the linux partition points to an NFS mount


hope this helps...

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PostIcon Posted on: Mar. 18 2001,22:34 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

yeah
that is the only way to run linuz and other operatin systems at the same time
u either have to use different hard drives or just different partitions

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quote:
Originally posted by Spydir Web:
for the sound - A3D sound drivers are almost non-exsitent.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/aureal

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PostIcon Posted on: Mar. 20 2001,14:39 Skip to the previous post in this topic.  Ignore posts   QUOTE

i had partitions, i just had them in the wrong order acoording to windows (it wanted to be the first partition and it was the second)

anyway thats all over now
i wiped the drive of all partitions except the linux swap and reformated/installed windows and linux. everything boots now.

KL1NK, i tried those drivers and the ones at www.xdrivers.com neiter worked but i think that is more of a user to keyboard interface problem.

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