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PostIcon Posted on: Nov. 28 2000,13:23  Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE
Check it...

(Reuters) - The Dutch lower house of parliament voted Tuesday to legalize euthanasia, the first country to do so, after decades of unofficially tolerating mercy killings. The vote was 104 to 40, a spokeswoman for the parliament told Reuters.

I think it's about time...

(p.s. - this isn't euthanasia as in, "let's kill all the old people," but rather having the right to die at your own will...)

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i would rather just die not knowing when or where, but if thats the way you want to go thats fine with me.
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it's great. it's almost like the dutch are willing to try out every social taboo in law for the good of humanity.
Decriminalize soft drugs? "Hell, why not, it'll be a laugh. Better than being belgium i suppose"
Leagalize prostitution + set up sex worker unions to ensure no exploitation/disease? "Well, i was thinking about dicking some hooker on the way home to Birgit so, i say yes!"
and now this!

i think they've set out on a one country crusade to make the world a groovier, less uptight place. and i'm all for it.

oh and if i was terminally ill, pengu1nn, i think that would take the mystery out of it for me

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Actually, arn't there some holds barred on the soft drugs scene in amsterdam etc..

I think that somehow its somehow illegal for the shops to get hold of the stuff, but not to sell it to you.

I don't see how that could be though.

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the dutch have gone one step too far...

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I don't smoke or anything, but I want to make a point. If someone is slowly dying of Emphysema, do you think they should suffer until they finally die of a slow suffocation? When I am talking about a slow suffocation, I mean as in multiple months, weeks, and possible years. I know I wouldn't want to sit there gasping for air, knowing that it could be my last breath, or at least wishing that it was.
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I don't understand - how does it affect anybody else if a certain person wants to end their life?

And there's a meaning behind the phrase terminally ill. Usually that means you're not going to get any better.

Mattimeo, if an elderly person you care about was painfully rotting away on their death bed, and pleaded with you every single day to give them their pill jar so they could help themselves to eternal freedom, would you say no?

Would you want to have the last memories of your loved one's life be tainted with spite...for you, especially?

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PostIcon Posted on: Nov. 29 2000,08:31 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE
under this law, can anyone kill themselves, or just the terminally ill?
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PostIcon Posted on: Nov. 29 2000,09:28 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE
i agreee totally with euthanasia... like everyone here who said about slow painful death etc, death is never good, but longer life at the cost of constant agony or whatever is worse than death

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no, in this case you don't *have* to be terminally ill to qualify, which i admit is a bit of a surprise
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20001128/wl/euthanasia_glance_1.html

these are the criteria they're working on, anyway.

the dutch do seem to apply their famously relaxed attitude to their laws too. you're right duSTman, possesion with intent to supply is still illegal, but if you have a coffeshop licence, they won't actually bust you. they do come down pretty hard on street dealers though. by not legalizing it, they avoid giving drugs their tacit approval, but kind of admit that if you're not harming anyone but yourself, then what's the big deal. eerily consistant in their policies aren't they?
the dutch seem to have found a way to get round the stigma of these things that go on but no one talks about. and i can see their point - why turn a health issue into a social problem?

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