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hey hey hey, while were at it, lets not let blacks or women vote...or maybe not even homosexuals or homeless...yeah, lets regress back to the point where only straight white property owning literate men can vote.

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PostIcon Posted on: Nov. 09 2000,19:04 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

Flaw in your logic: who is to say which people are stupid and which people are superior?

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Damn I hate to say this. I almost agree.

I don't know how to implement, but a lot of people who vote don't have a clue what they are voting for. Maybe voting should be a test! You are given all sorts of questions and you either agree or disagree. It automatically votes for you based on what you believe in.

I'd like to take credit for that, but there was a cool website that did the exact same thing. It asked you 15 questions on the major issues, and a few trust questions, and based on your answers it told you which candidate best suits your beliefs. Kinda cool.

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PostIcon Posted on: Nov. 09 2000,22:40 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

isn't that why we have the electoral college in the first place?

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Its actually pretty amusing how poeple go on about stupid poeple and voting. anyways on to the point of this post.

In australia we have some dumb people who most liberals think move like sheep into the polling booths and vote like good little sheep. but it has been shown that these people actually when they vote raise their IQ by 15 or so points and actually consider the issues and stuff...

but this might not apply to you americans as even doubling the average IQ, it would still be that same...

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Well, I wasn't going to respond to ANOTHER political thread, but I felt compelled when I saw jim's remarks. GENIOUS! GENIOUS! GENIOUS! (I know it wasn't your idea, but thanks for spreading it ) We gotta start doing that soon! Then it really wouldn't matter if they were stupid, because it would still apply everything to their needs and not who they were lead to by stupid ads. I love it, jim! I really do!

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Then it really wouldn't matter if they were stupid, because it would still apply everything to their needs and not who they were lead to by stupid ads. I love it, jim! I really do!

Yeah, and then eventually the tests would get so complicated that they could tell from your answers what you unconsciously wanted, and thus would be able to declare that you wanted Bush even though you thought you disagreed with him completely...

And after that, they could use the same machines to sense the sentiments of the American people remotely... you could vote without leaving your house.

And eventually through this wonderful science they would be able to determine who the people wanted without bothering to ask any of us, and the machine that decided this would have complete control over the election...

Sorry, doesn't work. You think about the candidates, you make a rational decision, you vote for that person. Programs can help match you to a candidate, but the actual vote still has to be your own choice.

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PostIcon Posted on: Nov. 10 2000,05:38 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

A better question might have been 'Should we let stupid people run for government?' but then in Britain we've got a good democratic system that makes sense so we don't really have to worry about inebriated, cokeheads getting elected to the control of our country. We just get control freaks.

Anyway, this whole thing with people in florida not being able to work out how to use a voting slip when it's hugely fucking obvious how it works (and I've never even touched one) has got me thinking a bit more deeply on an ideal I've come up with before: Don't let stupid people's votes count.

Imagine you've got something wrong with you and you don't know what it is so you go to the hospital to find out. Now, if you've ever been to a hospital waiting room before you'll know what I'm talking about, you have two choices when it comes to soemone making a disgnosis for you. You can either have somebody who's spent six years in medical university and another six years in practise before even being allowed to wear a stethoscope take a look at you and tell you what's wrong by using all the physiological and anatomical knowledge that he has in his bloated, information crammed brain, or you can save waiting and just go to that guy who's got a suit jacket on back to front, who deliberatly has bad handwriting (a common problem with doctors, as if you didn't know) and who has the same physiological and anatomical knowledge as me who thinks that leeches actually do work to cure ailments?

Are you going to put life and death decisions in the hands of a stupid person?

Even when it's your life?

Ofcourse not, so why let them get away with it when it comes to election time?

In order to solve this curse, I have come up with a solution. No, not eugenics, although the idea of only intelligent people being allowed to mate does sound very appealing to me, but a special kind of test that voters don't know they're taking when they go in the ballot box. They get given their ballot slip and there's false names on the slip. If they vote for them then it doesn't really matter because it's not going to change anything. But there's also misspelt names for candidates and also made up names for parties. So under Republicans, it might say Bust instead of Bush. People may vote for this guy called Bust thinking it's Bush but never mind, they're stupd, ballot gets binned. They may also vote for Al Gore. Nothing wrong with that, is there? Well, there wouldn't be if he wasn't campaigning on behalf of the Paedophiles of America Party. Somebody votes for him, ballot gets binned, 'Stupid Idiot' is stamped on their government record which means that they just get turned away from the voting office come next election. They won't get angry, they're too stupid, just feed them some crap about how it's actually just been turned into a culling area for some of the cities population and that only stupid people are being killed with antharax so he's lucky becasue he's too intelligent to get the treatment. He feels good, the country's safe, he'll have forgotten that he hasn't voted because somebody paid him a compliment.

Problem solved! There are proper candidate names and parties on the slip also for clever people to see, so don't worry. Only people with sense are allowed to vote along with those without reading problems or dyslexia or blind people (okay so there are a few flaws, but it's worth it in the end).

Any thoughts?
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Hi, Sithiee, thanks for the constructive criticism. You better start asking yourself some questions, I didn't mention anything to do with race or religion in my post but you seemed quite happy to throw it into yours.

I was taking the piss. The problem I've got is with people who don't bother to find out what they're voting for or why they're doing it. It's probably worse in Britain. If you don't have much money and you're from a working class background then you vote Labour (kind of like the Democrats), if you're rich and upper or middle class then you vote Conservative (kind of like the Republicans). Well, this is what you do if you're a fool and unfortunately that's what most of the people in this world are.

Why should people who haven't found out anything about who they're voting for except for thinking that that party is 'on their side' be able to have as much power as someone who's sat down and read through the manifestos and watched the debates and buys decent newspapers and doesn't watch the news just for the 'And Finally' bit? Stupid people are the people who want 'gays to be banned' because their dad says they're evil and that they bum little boys. They go and picket companies that do cancer research because a doctor broke a needle in a dog once when he was testing a new possible cancer eradicating injection. Stupid people don't like Gore because he's a bit boring and don't like Bush because ... well, there aren't any reasons to like Bush are there really?

Anyway, that question based voting thing sounds good because it will make the electorate think about what they're doing rather than vote for the guy with the most hair or something inconsequential like that.

Oh, and why can these people in Florida realise they voted for Buchanan when they couldn't figure out how to vote for Gore?
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Oh, and why can these people in Florida realise they voted for Buchanan when they couldn't figure out how to vote for Gore?
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Probably because 19,000 ballots are said to have been punched twice - once for Gore, once for Buchanan...logic, it seems, strikes again.

However, I just want to take this friendly, albeit sarcastic, moment to express my utter disdain for the heehaws that accidentaly voted twice. Alas, they are morons, and need not vote anyhow.

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