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Uberkommando 
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Working on a second Shitty Online Game, and this one involves modern weapons. I don't know crap about them.
Anyway, are there any machine guns, shotguns, and semi-auto rifles out there on the arms market you could tell me about? Can't find any really good websites, and I'm not taking a CS whore's word for it.
edit: Oh, yeah, forgot about kuru. Any pistol somewhere between a Glock and something powerful, I guess I'll say Desert Eagle, that any druglord could get his hands on?
Edited by Uberkommando on Jan. 01 1970,01:00
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Non
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I prolly don't have the same level of technical knowledge, but I do know some cool guns. Here are a few of my personal favorites:
Beretta 92F (in nickel) This gun goes head to head with Glock on quality and performance, plus it looks cooler than a glock imo. 
Barrett M82A1 Snipers wet dream. Actual Retail Price; $7,300. 
HK G11 Advanced Combat Rifle. Just look at the stats on this thing... It is made for getting 3 rounds downrange before the recoil of the first round even moves the gun (+2000 rpm during 3 round burst). It uses caseless ammo so there is no need for an ejection port. Caseless ammo is the next step in ammunition. This gun has some very cool mechanisms/layout. 
[edit] I never played CS.
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Cyrino
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Don't know if anyone else has seen it, but I thought it was pretty cool. Presenting ATK's OICW.
Edited by Cyrino on Jan. 01 1970,01:00
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Bozeman
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All you need is 100 caliber caseless armor piercing explosive ammunition, and youv'e got a BOLTGUN! w00tah!
/end 40k reference
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Wolfguard
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| Quote (Uberkommando @ 20 April 2002,20:55) | Working on a second Shitty Online Game, and this one involves modern weapons. I don't know crap about them.
Anyway, are there any machine guns, shotguns, and semi-auto rifles out there on the arms market you could tell me about? Can't find any really good websites, and I'm not taking a CS whore's word for it.
edit: Oh, yeah, forgot about kuru. Any pistol somewhere between a Glock and something powerful, I guess I'll say Desert Eagle, that any druglord could get his hands on? |
check the HK website. They make the best in the world from sub guns to sniper rifles.
The only way to get a better sniper rifle is to have it hand made by a gun smithe.
mosberg(my personal choice, 2 thumbs up and 4 dead bodies) makes the best shotguns. Never had one fail on me when it was needed. "0" or "1" buckshot and slugs mixed in the 8 shot mag. its nice to have the spread and when the target is off balance put an ounce and a quater of lead into its heart. That bastard will NOT be getting up again...ever.
if you want to stop 5 people with 5 shots look for a bowen 50. its a .50 revolver. always fires, never jambs.
Just remember. the same round fired from any gun will do about the same amount of damage to a person. a better gun just means you will be able to hit the same spot time and time again.
when shooting starts someone is going to the hospital or the morgue.
DPU/tungstun cored bullets dont even notice kevlar on their way through.
Ill see what i can find for you.
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Bob_the_Cannibal
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Yeah, wolf, but DU/TC rounds (5.56) don't do shit to unarmored opponents. US soldiers in Mogadishu had 5.56 "greentip" rounds (an AP version). unarmored somalis had to be shot somrthing like 12 times on average, to die. unless a CNS hit was scored, or massive blood loss...
However, I'd have to agree with you on the point about HK.
mp5's are good, the H&K G3 is a decent rifle.
the g11 isn't even in production, Alliant Techsystems has yet to deliver an OICW (doesn't HK make them, too?)
Deagles are so overused.
http://hkpro.com/contents.htm will point you in the right direction.
also, you might want to try securityarms http://www.securityarms.com they have a pretty complete listing of modern weapons.
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veistran
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wtf would be the point of a DU/TC round in 5.56mm ? You'd get essentially the same effect from a steel cored ap round at considerably less cost.
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Uberkommando
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Thanks Wolfy, great stuff!
And if anybody wants to help me attatch ratings to these guns, I'm pretty open...
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Bob_the_Cannibal
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| Quote (veistran @ 21 April 2002,23:10) | | wtf would be the point of a DU/TC round in 5.56mm ? You'd get essentially the same effect from a steel cored ap round at considerably less cost. |
DU or TC in 5.56 is nice for lightly armored things, like generators, people, jeeps, etc. a steel core wouldn't penetrate a generator's engine block. DU or ungsten Core would. also: shelf life. DU/TC doesn't rust, steel core does. the military is looking at all these factors.
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veistran
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| Quote (Bob_the_Cannibal @ 22 April 2002,20:52) | | Quote (veistran @ 21 April 2002,23:10) | | wtf would be the point of a DU/TC round in 5.56mm ? You'd get essentially the same effect from a steel cored ap round at considerably less cost. |
DU or TC in 5.56 is nice for lightly armored things, like generators, people, jeeps, etc. a steel core wouldn't penetrate a generator's engine block. DU or ungsten Core would. also: shelf life. DU/TC doesn't rust, steel core does. the military is looking at all these factors. |
Really it boils down to the fact that the 5.56mm round will only ever have limited effectiveness outside of eliminating soft targets. So why waste the money on fighting a lost cause, instead of providing a grunt with something more effective to use in the event that he needs to take out a hardened target and let him carry around ammo that will be more useful in his primary role of taking out soft targets.
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