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Beldurin 
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Posted on: Apr. 04 2002,07:16 |
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I'm doing some research on web link liability, and was wondering what all of you (as educated Internet travelers and, in some cases, site admins) thought of this.
The story goes like this:
If I run a website and decide to post some copyrighted material, say excerpts from "Dune," a movie trailier from LOTR, or some copyrighted playboy pics of CK's mom, and editor links to my site from Detnet. Can the owner of these copyrights sue editor for direct, contributory, or vicarious copyright infringement?
For those of you who think this is a load of crap, I assure you, it's happening and people are being prosecuted for it. You want to make a website and put some of your favorite links up? Soon you might have to make damn sure of who you're linking to, or you might just get your ass sued.
What do you guys think? (I'll post some links to relevant cases if there is the interest)
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veistran
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Posted on: Apr. 04 2002,07:24 |
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it's absolute shit, we'd all have to have or be fucking lawyers just to put up a link. Hell, I thought the one good thing the DMCA cleared up was that people aren't respsonsible for the content of pages that they link to.
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Wiley
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Posted on: Apr. 04 2002,22:20 |
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I would argue that neither my web page nor the server that houses it contains copywrited materials. The links my site may contain are redirectors to a separate entity that is not within my real of control nor liability and by clicking on such a link a viewer of my page is expressing through action their intent to visit the page(s) under the control of said separate entity.
Now if you really want a legal screw-job think about this. What would happen if somebody emailed you copywrited material ....then you would actually have possetion of the materials.
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Beldurin
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Posted on: Apr. 05 2002,00:34 |
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| Quote (veistran @ 03 April 2002,22:24) | | it's absolute shit, we'd all have to have or be fucking lawyers just to put up a link. Hell, I thought the one good thing the DMCA cleared up was that people aren't respsonsible for the content of pages that they link to. |
Not really...it's the contributory copyright infringement that gets them, and companies have actually used the DMCA to sue on this (also w/deep linking). I think online movie trailers is one of the issues...
For example: http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,36282,00.html
http://www.cnn.com/2000/TECH/computing/10/02/lucasfilm/index.html
Unfortunately, that kind of refutes your logic, doesn't it? It's now official, there is nothing good about the DMCA.
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Wiley
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Posted on: Apr. 05 2002,02:06 |
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If you don't want your shit linked to, then why not just add security to your site? I hate that the lawyers feast on the bonehead moves of the computer illiterate corporations out there. For shame Lucas!!
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veistran
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Posted on: Apr. 05 2002,06:10 |
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fuck the fucking DMCA, and fuck senator disney.
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Beldurin
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Posted on: Apr. 05 2002,23:38 |
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How interesting...a friend forwarded me this.
Oddly, it also applies to the corporate anthems thread.
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veistran
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Posted on: Apr. 06 2002,07:50 |
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I love how almost every company now takes a guilty until proven innocent stance when it comes to consumers and copyrights in any digital medium.
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ic0n0
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Posted on: Apr. 06 2002,08:00 |
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Its the wave of the future.
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veistran
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Posted on: Apr. 06 2002,08:42 |
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I wish the tech industry would have the balls to come down on the entertainment industry as a whole. God, they're only what 10x bigger? The entertainment industry only does one thing, produce a lot of crap.
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