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I'm sure CK will some sort of insight into this... Fascinating none the less.

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well don't get your hopes up, for 2 reasons.

a: they made a light pulse go 300 times the speed of light, not matter

b: the light pulse didn't actually go 300 times the speed of light, it sort of jumped from one place to another 300 times faster then it would have taken to propogate normally

notes: i'm still on the skeptical side of things here. i don't think they have broken the laws of physics nor have disproved relativity. i think this is just some strange property of matter that has gone undiscovered until now. also, similar effects have been seen with sodium gas at near-absolute-zero tempratures. scientists have actually "frozen light" in a chemical process.

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it can slow down but it can't speed up

vaccum = no medium

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it can slow down but it can't speed up

vaccum = no medium


Light can be affected by gravity. So whats the speed of light after it passes the event horizon of a black hole, and as it enters it? Also since light has no matter that would suggest that it could pass through or reflect off of anti matter. what about in negative medium?

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Light can be affected by gravity. So whats the speed of light after it passes the event horizon of a black hole, and as it enters it? Also since light has no matter that would suggest that it could pass through or reflect off of anti matter. what about in negative medium?


i don't know where you heard that from, because it's wrong. light isn't directly affected by gravity. gravity "dents" space-time, which results in light traveling in straight lines to appear as if it's being bent to us, who can't percieve the 4th dimension.

as for the anti-matter thing, that is way off. anti-matter is exactly the same as normal matter, except it has opposite charge. photons interact exactly the same (or exactly opposite). and there's no such thing as a negative medium.

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PostIcon Posted on: Jun. 06 2001,20:24 Skip to the previous post in this topic. Skip to the next post in this topic. Ignore posts   QUOTE

well i know they've got the speed of light slowed down to something like 30m/s

also i know that it is possible to make an image go faster than the speed of light. take a REALLy big cylinder place a laser beam at the centre aimed at the walls and rotate it REALLY fast and the dot it produces can go faster than light cos its an image not an individual particle

catnight could probably explain that better cos i cant be assed though i seriously doubt they managed to actually break the light barrier though

i mean i've seen cases where scientists have claimed to send a radio signal back in time using negative energy but i've never heard anything more so i doubt it was accurately done or something was assumed wrong. a lot of times the data turns out to give a different conclusion that sometimes is interesting but not what was originally laimed.

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Plus, isn't the figure we use for "the speed of light" actually its speed as measured in a vacuum? I believe that light can speed up or slow down as it passes through different media.

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Obviously they didn't break the laws of physics because you can't break them. If something happens then it's physically possible.

Whether or not they transferred matter or 'a light pulse' 300 times faster than the speed of light doesn't matter, the fact that they've transferred information faster than the speed of light is what matters (excuse the pun). If what they've done is real and is repeatable (I've not read the article but I did hear about this about 6 months ago though anyway, it's something to do with caesium gas isn't it?) then you can forget all this 1 GHz bullshit, we'll be using quantum computers that run at incredible speeds (mmmmmmmm, speeeeeed).

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but then there was the crazy thing about how if you go the speed of light, time stands still. does this mean, that if you go faster than the speed of light, you go backwards in time??

sort of. The faster you move (i.e. in a rocket or something), the slower time passes. So, logically, if you are going faster than light speed, time should go backwards. This is one of the reasons why the theory of relativity cannot be proven "correctly".

Btw, when I heard this in physics class, I tried to make practical use of it: when I am late for school in the morning, the faster I run to get there, the slower time passes... i.e. if I run fast enough time passes so slowly that I still arrive in time for school? Too bad I could never run really fast.

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hmm. our physics teacher just had us read a chapter on relativity. thats some crazy shit. the space-time thing is just whack. but anyway, according to the stuff we read, at all points in space, light is travelling at 300000 km/s, even if your going really really fast also. but then there was the crazy thing about how if you go the speed of light, time stands still. does this mean, that if you go faster than the speed of light, you go backwards in time?? the whole thing was crazyness, but i think its cool that they can go faster than the speed of light. anyway, if anyone wants to put up a crash course on the special theory of relativity, thatd be cool.

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