There once was this school bully that was the biggest baddest bully in the yard.
Nobody messed with this bully because they knew better. And when the bully
came around things got silent. Nobody wanted to make the bully mad. There
were nerds that would do the bully's work in return for protection from others.
Then one day the bully was turned on and a gutless attack on the bully from
some unknown place happened. The bully got hit with pies in the face, and
nobody could find the person that did it. Everyone had a good idea who did it,
but nobody was certain. The bully got really pissed and the longer the suspect
hid, the more mad the bully got. The bully got so mad that he had to vent his
frustration, and he decides to take it out on the people that are not under his
protection. These innocent people are getting nailed every night until the
bully has regained his bully status, because everybody knows that if a bully is
made to look funny, he no longer looks like a bully. And if the bully does
nothing about it then forever the bully is a push over and nobody looks at the
bully the same, nobody is scared of them, nobody wants protection from them.
The school becomes chaotic. Kids rioting, beating up other kids. The nerds
have no protection any more, and therefor are subject to constant wedgies, and
swirleys(sometimes even chocolate swirleys). While the bully is silenced, the
nerds are taken over and a new bully will be formed. But there has to be a
challenge between the bigest of the yard to see who will reach the bully
status.

On the other hand. If the bully stands up and starts to kick the crap out of
everyone that is in his way, until he gets the sasisfaction that he desires.
The others will still be under his shadows, fearful of what he will do to them,
scared when he looks at them differently, and order will remin as much as
always has. There might even be some that search and find the one responsible
just so they can pass their beating off to another.

Floppy_Monster
-thoughts on the world now that America has had pie thrown in their face.

*edit* this was copied as is, so don't blame me for any speeling or grammatical errors.

This message has been edited by Dysorderia on September 17, 2001 at 03:18 PM

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Well, can't say I'd be very surprised.. this is just the kind of action I'd expect from you yanks.

btw that exact same analogy could be used to condone the nazi's.

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Originally posted by keij0:
Couldn't agree more with your post, Dysorderia. Now evil yanks just want revenge, no matter who will be hurt in the process. How does killing of innocent civilians with airplanes differ from killing innocent civilians with weapons and missiles?

Well, can't say I'd be very surprised.. this is just the kind of action I'd expect from you yanks.

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WTF? I don't recall us "yanks" going crazy and bombing out of hand here recently, do you? I don't know where you're from, and don't really care. Do you condone this act? Do you think America should simply shrug, say "Oh well" and go on? Was your nation and its soveriegnty attacked in an act of war? Did you lose family or friends because the happened to be at work when a someone decided to play God and take thousands of lives?

No?

Then shut the fuck up.

Dysorderia, a pie in the face? 5000+ innocent people dead is a pie in the face? Parents at work, children on the planes is A PIE IN THE FACE? What is wrong with you? Do you condone terrorism? What will it take to change your mind? A car bomb that kills your parents? Your child executed screaming for mercy? It may not be your politics, but it DOES affect you.

Open your eyes and join the world of reality.

I'm not advocating bombing every possible nation that might be responsible into a smoldering hole, that's just asinine. And I agree that this desire for revenge is dangerous. I don't want revenge, I want justice. And once we locate those responsible, we shall have it.

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Originally posted by Dark-Angel99:
How come {name removed} doesn't like you? I find you really funny :D

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Never argue with and idiot...he may be doing the same thing

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Originally posted by keij0:
Couldn't agree more with your post, Dysorderia. Now evil yanks just want revenge, no matter who will be hurt in the process. How does killing of innocent civilians with airplanes differ from killing innocent civilians with weapons and missiles?

Well, can't say I'd be very surprised.. this is just the kind of action I'd expect from you yanks.

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the killings with the planes was planned. the killings with missles was an accident. stupid.

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Originally posted by pengu1nn:
the killings with the planes was planned. the killings with missles was an accident. stupid.

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And we all know that's how the American system of justice works, huh?

"I'm sorry your Honor! But I didn't mean to kill my neighbor! I just thought putting a concrete block on my gas pedal and letting my mower run loose would be funny!"

Pull your head out of your ass. What matters is the actual result of your actions. Intentions are inconsequential.

Also, anyone who wants to do a comparison with Iraq, there are two things I must point out: 1, Iraq was the aggressor, overrunning a small and relatively defensless neighbor which happened to be our ally. 2, The US did declare war on Iraq before the first attack on Iraq was made. It is understood that in war there will be casualties, and they aren't always military: Iraq's dictator ran that risk when he decided to invade Kuwait.

This situation cannot be compared in any way to Iraq. It can possibly be compared in principle to the missle attack on a suspected terrorist building in the Sudan made by Clinton in 97 in which a midnight watchman died, since our government made no warning to Sudan that it was going to attack. However the sheer scope of this attack and the fact that it was planned to maximize casualties rather than minimize them makes this attack completely different.

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Originally posted by CatKnight:
hello, you are are comparing a grade school play ground to an international [b]war. not the best analogy.

btw that exact same analogy could be used to condone the nazi's.[/B]

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hello your're pretending to be clever when ur just a twat.

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simultaneity is not absolute. So just because you think i'm wrong, from my frame of reference i'm right!

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Originally posted by Hellraiser:
Iraq was the aggressor, overrunning a small and relatively defensless neighbor which happened to be our ally.

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Not that I like Iraq or anything, and not that Iraq has already done enough stuff in the past to rationalize attacking them, but Iraq was actually (to some extent) justified when they invaded Kuwait. You see, Kuwait had been drilling diagonally into Iraqi oil fields for some time before the invasion, and had been warned by Iraq on several occasions, "Stop fucking stealing our fucking oil or we'll invade your ass."