now with the niceties out of the way. i fucking hate my parents. i mean seriously, ill get into why they suck in just a moment. fuck i know im not the only one who just cant stand his parents. dammit i know most people cant stand their parents, but i think i got a set of the worse ones.
i mean, they have their upsides, but im so sick of being around them thatr im forced lately to only notice the hundreds and hundreds of negative things they do.
for instance-
ok, i visit new york state about a week ago, and for those of you who dont know, namely i think all of you, i used to live there, now i live in connecticut, so im visiting, seeing all my old cool friends, its fun as hell, went to more parties in that one week in NY while visiting then in the entire year ive been here in CT, not because im a loser, beause there arent any cool parties here, and the entire state basicly sucks giant-inflamed-monkey-nuts. so anyways, i visited, as most of you should know by now, i smoke weed... well, i used to. i have since decided that if someone passes me a bowl, ill smoke it, but i wont buy big... beautiful.... lucious..... succulant bags of...... mmmmmmmm.... pot... dammit, anyways, so i smoked some serious weed while in NY, and unfortunatly, me and 3 friends were in my friends car, having just packed a bowl, i took a hit, passed it to the driver, (we were parked on the top of a hill so we could see the entire city) and just as he is finishing his hit, out of nowhere, two bright ass lights appear, and i say "yo, chill on the bowl, i think this is a cop" sure enough, it was a state trooper. ive had close calls before, but i knew we were fucked this time, if u want to know about the close calls, ull have to say so and ill post the stories, but continueing, my friend, ill call him...... my friend.. holds the still smoking glass sherlock bowl in his hand, and simply lowers his hand so its next to the transmission, doesnt hide it, doesnt exhale his breath of THC-saturated C02, holds it in, and freezes, now the cop (i think, see i dont remember this part well) walks to the window, knocks on it.. maybe? then my friend opens it, still witholding his breath of pot-smoke, and the cop says something that makse no sense, "you know why i pulled you over? i smell something funny in here." now my friend without a millisecond of hesitation immediatly says to him, "its weed". now obviously my friend is a moron. but before i continue, lets annalyze what the trooper said to us. is it me, or were we already stopped and parked off the road when the cop walked up to our window, thus, he pulled no one over. so no, we didnt know why he 'pulled us over'. now, my friend could have said it was ciggerettes, or cloves that the trooper smelled, after all, we had 2 girls in the backseat who smoke ciggerettes, and that would easily be a handy and very legal explanation. so the cop says, after being alerted to the presence of marijuana, "where is it?" my friend lifts the bowl up, its still smoking as he hands it to the trooper, who then asks, "wheres the rest?" now right about now is when my friend makes me want to kill the trooper just so i can use his baton to beat my friend to death with it. my friend again, with no hesitation replies, "he's got it" while pointing to me. now what the fuck. he could have said, "thats all we have, right there in the bowl" and no one other then his stupid ass would have gotten in trouble. but no. he squeeled like a fat-overfed-dirty pig on me. and so i was forced to hand over the best bag of weed i had baught in about a year. dammit hes a stupid fuck. so my friend and i go and sit in the back of the troopers very cool car. while he literally takes well over an hour to write up the paper work and shit. so while hes doing that i sat there, zoning out while staring at his beautifully brand-new Dell laptop cpu. christ this thing was nice. it was hooked up to his radio, his scanner, his radar, everything, and everytime someone talked or did anything over the radio, his cpu was alerted and made a note of it. so later on, he tells us its only a fine for having less then 25 grams of weed on us, and so we went to court 2 days later, each got a 50 dollar fine, with a 65 $ court sur-charge for paperwork and bullshit. so a total of 115$. which i guess isnt as bad as jail or community service which i have also had to do. but thats for other shit. anyways, my friend has a job, so he could easily pay his fine on time, i however do not have a job yet. so i wa fucked. eventually, my mom found out when she spoke to his mom about some soccer cleats id forgotten at his house, and his mom spilled it all to my mom. so cut to the present, im grounded for several weeks, and my parents have taken my new computer out of my room, and i am not allowed to use any of the house hold cpu's. tell me, does this suck? but wait, it gets better. they payed the fine for me, which is good. but..... i have to pay them back... thats bad.......... worse yet, they are considering making me pay interest.. thats real bad. are my parents the most moronic assholes youve heard about in a while? i like to think so. fuck theyre gay. ive got a lot more reasons to back this up. but this is already a huge post. so ill consider adding to it later on.

Count yourself lucky. An acquaintance of mine was caught smoking weed in his car with about a 1/2 pound of weed, 200 hits of E, some acid, lotsa shrooms ... He got a year house arrest. (But I think he was still allowed to use his computer heh)

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Second, your friend is a complete fucking idiot.

Third, your parents are cool as shit. My dad would have physically beaten the shit out of me. I would not have been grounded, but since I would be in the hospitol it wouldn't make much difference. My parents would NOT have paid the fine.

You are one of those jack asses that thinks that everything should just be handed over to you. Consider yourself luck, and grow the fuck up.

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I'm 15 and have never tried weed (and don't plan on it), but my parents made it perfectly clear that if I ever did, and they found out about it, I'd have the shit beaten out of me.

I also agree that your friend is a huge dumbass- but then agian, he was high, what do you expect?

Anyway, your parents sound pretty damn cool. Hah, I have to buy my dad's truck from him. He's getting a new one soon, and since I'll be needing a car, he said I have to BUY his car from him for bluebook value. What kind of shit is that?

-Tony

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My advice: grow the fuck up! quit complaining! (quit smoking and carrying illegal substances, whether you think they should be illegal or not! respect the law for what it is: the law.) and most of all, get a fucking life!

About your friend, Rol3x, after you beat him up, tell him to go fuck his mom or something. You are getting mad at the wrong person/people. Your parents had a typical parent reaction and you can't blame them.

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WTF?
If you want to tell me you've never broken a law, i'll laugh in your face.

Now, on the other hand, dude, your parents arent "fucking cool" like these other peeps be tellin ya. They ARE ok. PArents who beat the shit out of their kids suck. its called "Abuse".
and before you sound off on me, yeah, i got spanked when i was a kid. pretty hard too. I still think my dads an ass for it. But he never beat the shit out of me.

Youir parents arent being unreasonable tho. First: You should have a job. And you should take fucking responsibility for your own actions. You smoked pot. You gotta pay for. You took a risk, wagered smoking weed against maybe getting caught, and lost. Tough shit, it was your call. Pay for it and maybe you'll make a better decision next time.

PS. I had/have to pay for fucking everything except rent from my parents. I bought my own car, buy my own clothes, pay for my own gas, and i would pay for my own insurance except my dumbass parents fucked up and told me they'd pay till i got a ticket. hahahah i drive safe, havent gotten one.
I have a good job and am paying my way thru college while i live at home. <actually, student fucking loans, but hey>. Im just saying, well, you gotta pay for your mistakes, and its your choice. You live iwth what you do. good luck getting your parents to ever trust you again tho.

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Originally posted by Sithiee:
first off, reading books isnt bad, you can find some awesome stories in books. second you dont have to break laws to have some fun...well maybe a speed law or two, but it doesnt require getting busted by the narcotic squad of your local PD. anyone who tells you otherwise is a sad case. and i think we all knew it was coming. your parents are being pretty cool about it. if it was me though, and my parents tried to do somethin to me about it, i could point out they were hippies and have smoked more pot than many people i know, so theyd have no right to do anything to me...

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You think the fact that they smoked pot means they don't have the right to punish you for doing the same thing? You're full of shit. They're your parents for Christ's sake! If you do some dumbassed foolish thing, they have every right to punish you for it, probably even more right since they did the same things when they were younger. Parenting is a lot about trying to make sure your kids know that there are consequences for your actions, and teaching them not to make the same mistakes you made when you were a kid.

The only thing your parents do not have the right to do is abuse you for doing something stupid. And confining you to your room, or taking away computer privileges is not abuse by any stretch of the word. By now most of us are in our mid to late teens, we should know by now what is wrong and right to do, so if we fuck up and do something we know is wrong, or that is against the law, we have no cause to complain if our parents punish us for it.

If you think that because they did stupid shit when they were your age, it means they don't have the right to punish you for doing stupid shit at your age, you've got another thing coming.

the fact is, you broke the law, you knew you were breaking the law, and you got caught. you knew that smoking pot is illegal, and you chose to do it anyway. that means you CHOSE to deal with whatever consequences, legal and otherwise, might happen to you. basically, i'm saying you have to take responsibility for your actions. you want your parents to treat you like an adult, not a child, but you don't want to ACT like an adult?

you don't wanna own what you did, you think your parents shouldn't make you pay back the money they fronted you for the fine, and you think they shouldn't have grounded you? dude, you NEEDED this wake up call. nobody else is gonna own your actions after you move outa your parents' house and you're on your own, so get used to takin responsibility for them now.

you danced, now you pay the band.

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'if your children ever found out how lame you are, they'd kill you in your sleep.' -frank zappa

I don't have to explain why your parents are fine, everybody else has already done that.

Where I disagree with everyone else is over the supposed 'dumbness' of your friend. It may well be that his actions saved your worthless ass from an even heftier penalty. Let's take another look at your account of the events. According to your story the state trooper said, "I smell something funny in here." My question to you is do you honestly believe that police officers are ignorant of how weed smells? They're not. They all know what weed smells like, and many of them have probably had first-hand experience smoking it. It's a safe bet that he knew what the smell was and was asking a trapping question. And it's probable that he would have inspected the car regardless of your friend's response.

And now you have to ask yourself what would've happened if he'd found out that he'd been lied to. Ask yourself what would've happened after he'd discovered the bowl, done an inspection of each of you and found a package of weed concealed on poor, 'blameless' Rol3x. See, contrary to what you seem to believe, there is something worse than smoking weed and getting caught. And that's smoking weed, lying about it, and getting caught.

Your friend did the intelligent thing. He realized he had little chance of escape and he confessed. He accepted responsibility for his crime. And that makes him more mature and more intelligent than you. You should be thanking your friend, not villifying him.
He saved both of your asses.

One final thought: You'd better grow up fast. Sixteen years old and you've already been caught for possession of narcotics, and have already had to do jail-time and community service? And I suppose that's through no fault of your own, right? This is the one instance where I've ever agreed with jim on anything. You need to start taking responsibility for your actions. Stop acting like a baby and your parents won't have to treat you like one.

ignore all the anti-pot lamers. Pot is cool. It made me smarter because it made me think about weird shit I wouldn't normally think about sober. Like how all this "matter" shit is pretty much determined by interactions between electrons... that is fucking cool... I had to quit after five years of being a stoner because every time I got high I'd give myself the Fear by thinking about that shit... straight-edge people aren't as bright as they think they are!!!

But that's another thread

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"Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed into a slow vibration, that we are all of one consciousness . . . .", etc.

No? Okay, coincidence maybe. . . I've never been stoned (although I don't have an aversion to it) but if you want to get "The Fear" w/o drugs (or at least get some fascinating ideas), try reading a book called "In the Beginning" by John Gribbin.

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Originally posted by Althornin:
...PArents who beat the shit out of their kids suck. its called "Abuse"...

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Well, my parents don't beat me, I've never done anything THAT wrong. But doing drugs... that's something I'd worry about. Either my dad would hit me a couple times, or he'd kick me out.

I'd rather he hit me a couple times...

Anyway, I agree with the general consensus that you should take responsibility for your actions.

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i got smacked when i deserved it, grounded when i deserved it, and rewarded when i earned it. if i could go back to day one and choose between my parents and rol3x's, i'd choose mine.

course, i think rol3x is probably unlucky as hell that he has gotten away with so much for so long....because when the shit finally does fall entirely at his feet, i don't know if he's gonna have what it takes to live with it.

wow, i'm rambling again. i guess my point is, all of you who had strict parents... if you could go back to the beginning right now, knowing everything you do, would you choose to have less strict parents, or the same ones?

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kuru
'if your children ever found out how lame you are, they'd kill you in your sleep.' -frank zappa

cops are human too, and if you guys had given the cop a hard time, maybe he woulda hauled you outa the car, thrown you on the ground, roughed you up, cuffed you, and let a dog tear apart your car for anything they might find. then of course, he'd have to put it in his paperwork that you were difficult about it, which wouldn't have looked good for the judge...

but then again, maybe some hard knocks are just what y'all need... after all, you've been caught for something you did wrong, and caught while you were doing it, and you still don't think you're at fault.

hiro i totally agree with you, rol3x's friend probably saved all their asses from even worse treatment. whether that was best for them or not.... who knows.

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kuru
'if your children ever found out how lame you are, they'd kill you in your sleep.' -frank zappa

If they let you do any damn thing you wanted, you would be fucking DEAD!

You better go thank your folks, or at least show them some respect for trying to save your ass.

Who the hell got you your new puter by the way?

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want to add that the only thing i changed was to type this, and add in the "go sit on a bench, it sounds funnier.

[This message has been edited by Rol3x (edited September 08, 2000).]

[This message has been edited by demonk (edited September 08, 2000).]

Rol3x: Could you have payed the fine without your parents help, or were you eventually going to tell them?

-Tony

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Originally posted by Rol3x:
and besides, im going to be richer then you. like ive said before in posts you may or may not have read, im going to be rich and when i am, fuck every single one of you

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apparently you don't understand some of the basic aspects behind amassing wealth. posting that you will be rich does not (and never will) make you rich.

secondly, how do you know if you will be richer than demonk? why would you say something so foolish? and who really cares?

thirdly, does money bring happiness? who here thinks it does?

and lastly, you have no idea how easy you have it. i would be kicked out of the house sans my belongings... (that includes my boxes). but not that that would really matter seeing as i wouldn't have any electricity.

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if you are still blaming your parents and your friend for this incident, then obviously you've learned nothing. unfortunately, it's probably going to take more than being charged interest on the loan to pay your fine to teach you a lesson. your parents should take you to court, refuse to pay the fine, and let the judicial system handle you.

obviously your whiny attitude has come from getting the easy way out for far too long.

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kuru
'if your children ever found out how lame you are, they'd kill you in your sleep.' -frank zappa

As for making more money than me: hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
I needed a good laugh. I'm not going to explain why that is incredably stupid.

Was that nicer? Did I avoid hurting your feelings?

Don't you think it's going to be hard to get rich when you are locked up, taking it the ass by big black bubba!

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-Tony

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<-heartless immature flames follow, nd->

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Originally posted by Rol3x:
(first off i want to say im going to be swearing quite a lot, if you dont like it, dont read further)

now with the niceties out of the way. i fucking hate my parents. i mean seriously, ill get into why they suck in just a moment. fuck i know im not the only one who just cant stand his parents. dammit i know most people cant stand their parents, but i think i got a set of the worse ones.
i mean, they have their upsides, but im so sick of being around them thatr im forced lately to only notice the hundreds and hundreds of negative things they do.
for instance-
ok, i visit new york state about a week ago, and for those of you who dont know, namely i think all of you, i used to live there, now i live in connecticut, so im visiting, seeing all my old cool friends, its fun as hell, went to more parties in that one week in NY while visiting then in the entire year ive been here in CT, not because im a loser, beause there arent any cool parties here, and the entire state basicly sucks giant-inflamed-monkey-nuts. so anyways, i visited, as most of you should know by now, i smoke weed... well, i used to. i have since decided that if someone passes me a bowl, ill smoke it, but i wont buy big... beautiful.... lucious..... succulant bags of...... mmmmmmmm.... pot... dammit, anyways, so i smoked some serious weed while in NY, and unfortunatly, me and 3 friends were in my friends car, having just packed a bowl, i took a hit, passed it to the driver, (we were parked on the top of a hill so we could see the entire city) and just as he is finishing his hit, out of nowhere, two bright ass lights appear, and i say "yo, chill on the bowl, i think this is a cop" sure enough, it was a state trooper. ive had close calls before, but i knew we were fucked this time, if u want to know about the close calls, ull have to say so and ill post the stories, but continueing, my friend, ill call him...... my friend.. holds the still smoking glass sherlock bowl in his hand, and simply lowers his hand so its next to the transmission, doesnt hide it, doesnt exhale his breath of THC-saturated C02, holds it in, and freezes, now the cop (i think, see i dont remember this part well) walks to the window, knocks on it.. maybe? then my friend opens it, still witholding his breath of pot-smoke, and the cop says something that makse no sense, "you know why i pulled you over? i smell something funny in here." now my friend without a millisecond of hesitation immediatly says to him, "its weed". now obviously my friend is a moron. but before i continue, lets annalyze what the trooper said to us. is it me, or were we already stopped and parked off the road when the cop walked up to our window, thus, he pulled no one over. so no, we didnt know why he 'pulled us over'. now, my friend could have said it was ciggerettes, or cloves that the trooper smelled, after all, we had 2 girls in the backseat who smoke ciggerettes, and that would easily be a handy and very legal explanation. so the cop says, after being alerted to the presence of marijuana, "where is it?" my friend lifts the bowl up, its still smoking as he hands it to the trooper, who then asks, "wheres the rest?" now right about now is when my friend makes me want to kill the trooper just so i can use his baton to beat my friend to death with it. my friend again, with no hesitation replies, "he's got it" while pointing to me. now what the fuck. he could have said, "thats all we have, right there in the bowl" and no one other then his stupid ass would have gotten in trouble. but no. he squeeled like a fat-overfed-dirty pig on me. and so i was forced to hand over the best bag of weed i had baught in about a year. dammit hes a stupid fuck. so my friend and i go and sit in the back of the troopers very cool car. while he literally takes well over an hour to write up the paper work and shit. so while hes doing that i sat there, zoning out while staring at his beautifully brand-new Dell laptop cpu. christ this thing was nice. it was hooked up to his radio, his scanner, his radar, everything, and everytime someone talked or did anything over the radio, his cpu was alerted and made a note of it. so later on, he tells us its only a fine for having less then 25 grams of weed on us, and so we went to court 2 days later, each got a 50 dollar fine, with a 65 $ court sur-charge for paperwork and bullshit. so a total of 115$. which i guess isnt as bad as jail or community service which i have also had to do. but thats for other shit. anyways, my friend has a job, so he could easily pay his fine on time, i however do not have a job yet. so i wa fucked. eventually, my mom found out when she spoke to his mom about some soccer cleats id forgotten at his house, and his mom spilled it all to my mom. so cut to the present, im grounded for several weeks, and my parents have taken my new computer out of my room, and i am not allowed to use any of the house hold cpu's. tell me, does this suck? but wait, it gets better. they payed the fine for me, which is good. but..... i have to pay them back... thats bad.......... worse yet, they are considering making me pay interest.. thats real bad. are my parents the most moronic assholes youve heard about in a while? i like to think so. fuck theyre gay. ive got a lot more reasons to back this up. but this is already a huge post. so ill consider adding to it later on.

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During The Nightmare Called High School, you hate your parents. Loathe them, because they are such total morons that you are mildly surprised they understand concepts like gravity.

During The Dream Called College, you pity your parents. They are just pathetic old people who may or may not be trying to help. You may not hate them anymore, but you pity them and spend as little time with them as possible.

During the Wake-Up Call Into Real Life, you finally start to respect your parents, and realize that they are *gasp* human. You now might understand why they did some of the things they did, and you can actually start to respect them for the living, breathing adults that they are.

I'm at Stage 3--my dad embarrasses me, but I see myself turning into him, and I really don't mind all that much. The simple fact here is that Rol3x is at that stage where he is just getting ready to jump out of the nest, and is trying subconsciously to irritate his folks into helping him with the jump. It's totally normal, and in ten years he'll be laughing about it with his friends.

'Course, that's assuming he learnes from his mistakes and doesn't get put in that little tiny cell with the very large cellmate.

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real quick, (sorry for all these numerous posts, this box that im on doesnt seem to want to refresh. anyways. i never said my parents didnt have reason to punish me. hell, if i catch my kids smoking, ill punish them too. but 5 weeks with no box is a shitty move. if i still had the box. i wouldnt give a shit at all.

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Because there's not a damn way in HELL you are going to make it anywhere going on like this. If you constantly have the attitude that you are ultimitely superior and anyone who disagrees with you can go to hell, you'll never make it anywhere. Your parents shouldn't have taken your box for 5 weeks, they shoulda made it 20. Or until you paid off your debt, plus 30.

Get a grip on life. You don't get in high places by smoking weed, getting arrested, and bitching at your parents because they took your computer away.

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dammit-
have none of you read what i posted? honestly now, what the fuck are some of you thinking. just like i belive ive said before, my parents found out via speaking on the phone with my friends mother. as it just so happens, i was well on the way of taking care of it myself. and fuck you demonk, your a fruity b1tch. its kids like you whos ass i strongly desire to beat in school but then remember, im better then that, and besides, ive got better shit to do.i would have been able to take care of it myself, and in fact thats what i wanted to do. when my friends parents found out what happened, they were proud of him for trying to take care of it himself. apparently, mine did not feel the same. also, i almost never get my way. so fuuck all of you who have this pre-conceived notion that im some spoiled asshole. if you knew me in real life, i think you would feel differantly, but then, i dontn really care what you think, if i did, id be taking this shit way too seriously. you cant do that when it comes to life, and frankly i hate people that do. a lot of the time i think that people whos parents fuck them over and never let them have any fun, are worse off then many other people.. partially because they become morons with no humor (none thats any good anyways, and i wont cite examples) also, if you cant have fun in life, youve wasted it all. who says i have to work, who says i have to always be happy, who says i have to agree with my parents, and who says theyre right? thats what i want to get an answer about from you demonk you spooge-eating f00l, youve managed to piss me off quite a bit. who are you to talk trash about me and my family, who, dysfunctional as we all may be, still love/hate each other, and manage to be very successfull. and besides, im going to be richer then you. like ive said before in posts you may or may not have read, im going to be rich and when i am, fuck every single one of you people who try to fuck up my life or judge me, you have no right, but frankly, i shouldnt allow myself to be bnothered by what you think, so in that sense, im being very hypocritical, which i hate, but this once ill allow it. demonk, dont arge with me on this unless you are going to be both eliquent and resourcefull in your meager attempts at a reply. if you so choose, ill entertain your attempts, but only since it would be a pain in the ass to find out where you live and come kill you, besides, i really dont have the time. back on the topic at hand, i do want to know this, Kuru, tell me why you feel i still blame my parents. however, if you have neglected to read the posts which precede this one, dont bother, since they should tell you i dont blame them at all. ill say it again "they SHOULD punish me. i fucked up. plain and simple. MY fault, that i was doing what i was at the time. no one elses, im just a bit pissed at how they handled it. maybe you dont approve of my feelings, hey if thats that case then tough shit, and i can only wonder at why. now, let me finish by explaining to demonk who has payed no attention to my posts where i said that in the event that i did not pay the fine, it would result in a larger fine, and a warrent being put out for my arrest. a warrent doesnt mean shit demonk, let me explain this to you more clearly, warrent = if you are arrested ever again which a warrent issued for your arrest, your in deeper shit then you were without the warrent, its like jumping bail, nothing happens until they catch your sorry ass, until they do, nothing really happens aside from a letter to my house, bigger fine, and the warrent. no guys in matte-black kevlar suits with the big guns breaking in my door and arresting me just for the warrent of not yet having payed a 50$ fine. blink your eyes once if you understand this. blink twice for no.
fuck i always manage to type too much. i appologize for how long my posts are in this thread. ill try to work on it. also if ive affended anyone other then demonk, im sorry, its unintentional. i respect the rest of your opinions and what you may have to say.

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His friend did him well.

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I would kick the shit out of your stupid ass friend. He would have paid for all the fines, and he would of bought me a new bag of weed!
What a fucking wuss dick!

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Originally posted by Jynx:
Heh, Rol3x, take heart. You're supposed to hate your parents. I've been there, done that.

During The Nightmare Called High School, you hate your parents. Loathe them, because they are such total morons that you are mildly surprised they understand concepts like gravity.

During The Dream Called College, you pity your parents. They are just pathetic old people who may or may not be trying to help. You may not hate them anymore, but you pity them and spend as little time with them as possible.

During the Wake-Up Call Into Real Life, you finally start to respect your parents, and realize that they are *gasp* human. You now might understand why they did some of the things they did, and you can actually start to respect them for the living, breathing adults that they are.

I'm at Stage 3--my dad embarrasses me, but I see myself turning into him, and I really don't mind all that much. The simple fact here is that Rol3x is at that stage where he is just getting ready to jump out of the nest, and is trying subconsciously to irritate his folks into helping him with the jump. It's totally normal, and in ten years he'll be laughing about it with his friends.

'Course, that's assuming he learnes from his mistakes and doesn't get put in that little tiny cell with the very large cellmate.

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I know it sucks now, being grounded and bored-you cant see the big picture. You are lucky to have them. You should talk to them right now and say that you're sorry and you see why they're punishing you. (Hey, they might even lessen the grounding! )

I dont think what your friend did is very cool at all however. He should've tried to hide the weed, and DEFINATELY shouldn't have fingered you. If you wanted to speak up and tell the cop that you had something, he should've let that be your choice. BUT under the circumstances, I can totally see how he would be freaked out and spill it all without thinking. Escpecially since you guys are young, cops can be very scary.
BUT I wouldn't blame your friend that much either. He's just human, and fux0red up a little.. of course I wouldn't count on him in an adverse situation or anything

In the future be more careful where you smoke weed! I think it should be legal, and our drug laws are much too harsh-- but they're in effect, and you cant do anything about it except be a little more prudent

I smoke weed all the time, and have since i was 17 (im 22) but I'm pretty careful where i do it. In my house, or if me and my friends have to do it in a car, we'll drive somewhere that the cops AREN'T. behind a store or wherehouse or something.

And dont EVER drive while your high! not only is it dangerous(how would you feel injuring or killing another person because you were irresponsible??!), but the legal consquences for driving st0n3d or drunk are awful. dont do it

to sum up: your parents sound like they *gasp* love you and they're only trying to raise you right. give em some credit. your friend is only human, forgive him.
Be responsible about your drug use.
If you cant be responsible about it--YOu SHOULDN'T DO IT!

good day

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"A witty saying proves nothing." --Voltaire

[This message has been edited by aventari (edited September 20, 2000).]

Anyhow...
first off:

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...PArents who beat the shit out of their kids suck. its called "Abuse"...

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Parents SHOULD whip their kids. Now, I mean a spanking on the ass, not throwing them around the room and bruising them all up. Spanking and Abuse are totally differnent. And any kid who cries "abuse" when their parents spank them needs to be beat that much harder.
The reason this world is full of shitheads now is because parents have gotten really slack and don't really care what's going on in their childrens lives.
My parents were very strict.. and like a typical teen, I despised them for it at the time. Once I hit 18 and moved out, it all hit me real hard. I realized why they were so strict, and it made me into a very respectable (and courteous) person. Had they NOT been that strict, I WOULD be locked up right now, and I know this as fact.

Anyhow, Rol3x, chill out man. You parents are teaching you responsiblity, a concept you obviously don't have a grasp on yet.

Also, in my view, I don't think you should be smoking weed until you're 18 anyhow. Same with cigarettes and alcohol (yes, I think you should have to be 18 to drink).
Why? You're 18, you're not your parents responsiblity anymore. If you're under 18 and you get caught smoking weed, or drinking or maybe even smoking cigs (depending on location) you're parents take most of the heat for your dumb ass. Once you hit 18, they get to laugh at you while YOU have to deal with it.

Kids wanna grow up so fast these days, but they don't want to handle the responsiblities...

Honestly, I feel sorry for this world once these idiots grow up and start becoming part of society and the work force

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Originally posted by RenegadeSnark:
Gonna be rich? Inheriting money, eh?

Get a grip on life. You don't get in high places by smoking weed, getting arrested, and bitching at your parents because they took your computer away.

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umm, yes you do get in high places by smoking weed!

and he is a kid, most kids do hate their parents (which has alrady been said)

Your friend is a jackass! he did not do the right thing, he should have tried to mislead the "pig"!, if you tell them there is no weed and they find some you still can only get what the law will allow for having weed (which happend to be a โ fine), so stop prasing the fucking nark! how would you people like it if someone told on you every time you did something bad/illegal/morally wrong! you wouldn't! don't say you would! it would suck (as it does for Rol3x) nark nark nark nark fuck a nark, if a cop catches me with weed on his own, then i fucked up somewhere (not by having the weed, just not conseling it good enuff!) him smoking weed is non of your concern. he is not stupid for it.

your parents are not the greatest but their not that bad either (i'll save you the bullshit stories about how you have it easy, and if i was caught i would have been skinned alive and fried in hell) they want you to do what they see is right, so they punish you for what they see is wrong. (and they are right 75\% of the time) pot is not wrong! (another thread, another time) but if your gonna smoke it then you souldn't hide it (from your parents atleast) it's your life and their gonna have to respect you or through you out, sux but they should let you back i one time anyway

charging intrest is not right.
what if you borrow money from a friend and they decided they are gonna charge you intrest.

the guy was shit on by his friend, that is the bottom line! weed isn't the issue and his parents aren't either. hell ya he is gonna bitch about it, he got the raw deal by someone who he thought was a friend!

I do drink.

I am also underage for drinking.

However, I'm always with someone responsible who wouldn't let it get wayyyyyyyyyy out of hand.

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Originally posted by pengu1nn:

umm, yes you do get in high places by smoking weed!

and he is a kid, most kids do hate their parents (which has alrady been said)

Your friend is a jackass! he did not do the right thing, he should have tried to mislead the "pig"!, if you tell them there is no weed and they find some you still can only get what the law will allow for having weed (which happend to be a โ fine), so stop prasing the fucking nark! how would you people like it if someone told on you every time you did something bad/illegal/morally wrong! you wouldn't! don't say you would! it would suck (as it does for Rol3x) nark nark nark nark fuck a nark, if a cop catches me with weed on his own, then i fucked up somewhere (not by having the weed, just not conseling it good enuff!) him smoking weed is non of your concern. he is not stupid for it.

your parents are not the greatest but their not that bad either (i'll save you the bullshit stories about how you have it easy, and if i was caught i would have been skinned alive and fried in hell) they want you to do what they see is right, so they punish you for what they see is wrong. (and they are right 75\% of the time) pot is not wrong! (another thread, another time) but if your gonna smoke it then you souldn't hide it (from your parents atleast) it's your life and their gonna have to respect you or through you out, sux but they should let you back i one time anyway

charging intrest is not right.
what if you borrow money from a friend and they decided they are gonna charge you intrest.

the guy was shit on by his friend, that is the bottom line! weed isn't the issue and his parents aren't either. hell ya he is gonna bitch about it, he got the raw deal by someone who he thought was a friend!

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[This message has been edited by cr0bar (edited September 22, 2000).]

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Originally posted by RenegadeSnark

I'm not against weed at all. I just chose not to smoke it. Personally I think the law should allow people to smoke it, despite the fact that I am not a user.

I do drink.

I am also underage for drinking.

However, I'm always with someone responsible who wouldn't let it get wayyyyyyyyyy out of hand.

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i can respect that.
although i'm not really a drinker, at a party i may have 2 beer at most 5 (not that that gets me trashed, where you have some one to keep things from getting out of hand (nothing wrong with that) i am usually the one keeping people from tearing down the walls and getting the cops called, it's a thankless job but someone has to/should do it!)

weed should be legal, but like cigs and beer, it should be age restricted, and taxed, but also you should be able to grow small amounts for "personal" use

i don't rely on anyone, pay rent, have a job, pay the light and long distance phone bill to, and i still smoke up. about the drug test thing, get a different job or don't do them (which is what you choose to do) and you don't go in front of a judge if you fail a piss test (unless it was given to you by a probation officer or something of that nature).

your not all that smart yourself if you think that all drug users are "dangerous" and "mindless" ppl with no sense of reality.
your friend sounds like a crack head (of course you said herion, either way) not a pot head!!!!!!!!!!!!! big difference.

there is always no room for error, but there is always errors!

This message has been edited by pengu1nn on October 02, 2000 at 12:03 PM

My point? Statistics can suggest anything.