Forum: Rants
Topic: Can someone please xplain this to me
started by: caseman984
Posted by caseman984 on Oct. 14 2001,16:56
OK here goes the story, definately rantworthy. On Friday, I had a half day of school, and my girl was comin over after school for a little fun. We were foolin around and all the usual, when she suddenly stops, and decides she dosn't want to. Oh but the fun dosn't stop there, no. That night we were on the phone talking about it, and she said that she didn't want sex to ruin our relationship, which seems like a semi-vaild point. Somehow the conversation got into discussing how I can't express myself with words very well, and then into the fact that i was a coward and a hypocrit. She said she didn't want to be with someone who was like that. Well I saw her the next day, and she seemed ok except she was avoiding me a little. Then I saw her at church on sunday and she didn't say two words to me. So, last night I was trying to figure all this out. After what she said to me, and how she was acting around me, I figured she had, in her own way, broken up with me. I tried to talk to her about it and she got extremely upset with me for assuming that she had broken up with me. Then she proceeded to tell me that I had broken up her. So today, she ignores me completely, while I'm off ready to kill myself. She's all happy and fine like nothing ever happened. *sigh*

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Anyway, my question is, how does she figure I broke up with her? Thats the thing thats really bugging me.

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quote:
Originally posted by Tattered:
Caseman's kewl, he sometimes makes good posts based on small observations.

This message has been edited by caseman984 on October 15, 2001 at 11:57 AM

Posted by DeadAnztac on Oct. 14 2001,18:39
This girl sounds like she lacks all cognitive capacity. Don't be sad she's gone, be sad for her continued existence. Such a vegetable should not have the right to vocal chords. That's just my opinion. If it's a test, then she's a hanus bitch. If it's because she doesn't like you then she didn't like and she's a hanus bitch for picking that way to break with you. If she needs some space then give her space, and never go back, simply because of the depth of her ineptitude. If she was cheating on you then she’s a Super-King-Kong-Maya-Maya-Biotch.

Don't be surprised if someday your talking to one of her friend and you find yourself asking "Did she ever have a horse?"

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Posted by Observer on Oct. 14 2001,18:42
She didn't by any chance spend a year in college, did she?

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Posted by caseman984 on Oct. 14 2001,18:43
Excuse the length of the post, but I think this sums up things well.

Sir Caseman says:
Theres so much I want to say to you but I'm afraid it'll only make things worse

Sir Caseman says:
not that they can get much worse

Pêåçh늤Ðârkƒ£àmè¤ says:
you said enough already...

Pêåçh늤Ðârkƒ£àmè¤ says:
honestly bob..you said enogh yesterday to last me a friggin life time

Sir Caseman says:
I wasn't thinking, I just got frantic because I saw everything crumbleing right before my eyes, I was just groping blindly into the darkness trying tanything I could to stop what I had started

Pêåçh늤Ðârkƒ£àmè¤ says:
and you said things thta felt like a knife in my heart and soul

Sir Caseman says:
like what

Pêåçh늤Ðârkƒ£àmè¤ says:
that i was close minded? that i guilt ppl into things?

Pêåçh늤Ðârkƒ£àmè¤ says:
things like that bob

Sir Caseman says:
You told me that you didn't want to be with someone like me.. it sounded close minded to me, it seemed the only way I would be able to stay with you would be to change myself, which I shouldn't have to do. You told me that love was acceptance, and I accepted you... why couldn't you do the same for me?

Pêåçh늤Ðârkƒ£àmè¤ says:
because planning on doing the same shit over and over is more close minded than someone knowing the type of person they want to be with

Sir Caseman says:
this all started when i said that I was going to stop talking altogether, because I can't talk right. I ment that I wasn't going to try to convey things without really figureing out the words.. be sure that I can backup what I said. this whole ordeal happend because of that. Because of the problem that made you think I was that way. the cause was also the effect

Sir Caseman says:
the one problem, that one damn thing, something I was ready and willing to work on, has ultimately broken us apart

Pêåçh늤Ðârkƒ£àmè¤ says:
no..you assuming shit and not findign out broke us apart. you're words in anger broke us apart.

Sir Caseman says:
exactly. I don't think before I speak

Sir Caseman says:
its something that you yourself have been guilty of in the past, remember the incidant with JT? I was ready friday night, talking to you, to try to use your help with that, but you ran off, and didn't talk to me. I didn't know what to think, and the rest is history.

Pêåçh늤Ðârkƒ£àmè¤ says:
i had to go bob. Hello

Sir Caseman says:
I'm not talking about just the phonecall. You could have said something saturday, or sunday.

Pêåçh늤Ðârkƒ£àmè¤ says:
maybe you were getting to clingy and i needed space

Pêåçh늤Ðârkƒ£àmè¤ says:
maybe you should learn to not assume things and let ppl ahve SPACE to breathe

Sir Caseman says:
if I had given you space, I would have been assuming thats what you needed, because you didn't tell me.

Pêåçh늤Ðârkƒ£àmè¤ says:
I TOLD YOU I AM THE KIND OF PERSON WHO NEEDS SPACE

Pêåçh늤Ðârkƒ£àmè¤ says:
AND THAT I BACK OFF SOMETIMES TO GET IT

Pêåçh늤Ðârkƒ£àmè¤ says:
NOT THAT YOU LISTENED TO ME OR ANYTHING

Sir Caseman says:
you told me that sometimes things happened that were not my fault.. all those times that its happend you've only been a little bit distant, but over the weekend, you were practically ignoreing me

Sir Caseman says:
I've also been told that you hate it when people think they know you.

Pêåçh늤Ðârkƒ£àmè¤ says:
and i told you..and i know this for a face..that i need space and sometimes i pull back

Pêåçh늤Ðârkƒ£àmè¤ says:
and you know what?

Pêåçh늤Ðârkƒ£àmè¤ says:
forget it

Pêåçh늤Ðârkƒ£àmè¤ says:
all

Pêåçh늤Ðârkƒ£àmè¤ says:
bye bob

Sir Caseman says:
I still dont think you a bitch, heh.. whatever you think Echo.. I know how I feel, what I knew, I acted how any normal person would. I'm sorry I didn't act the way you assumed I would.

Pêåçh늤Ðârkƒ£àmè¤ says:
whatever

Pêåçh늤Ðârkƒ£àmè¤ says:
you ended smething then go around moping ans hite

Pêåçh늤Ðârkƒ£àmè¤ says:
*shite

Pêåçh늤Ðârkƒ£àmè¤ says:
its your own damn fault

Sir Caseman says:
Echo for the last time I have good reason to mope. I DID NOT END IT ON PURPOSE

Sir Caseman says:
Maybe it is but I never tried to break up with you, I never told you I was, I never made any sort of gesture towards you to say that I had. Because I thought you had already done it to me.

Pêåçh늤Ðârkƒ£àmè¤ says:
you told me it was over and it was too bad that i had to prove everyone wrong about us workign out

Pêåçh늤Ðârkƒ£àmè¤ says:
and that said it all

Sir Caseman says:
I wrote that in my journal, that was not directed at you

Pêåçh늤Ðârkƒ£àmè¤ says:
no that was in the e-mail you sent me

Pêåçh늤Ðârkƒ£àmè¤ says:
thank you very much bob

Pêåçh늤Ðârkƒ£àmè¤ says:
with when you called me close minded

Sir Caseman says:
words of anger, you said it yourself. I wrote that when I saw I was kicked out of the comm.

Pêåçh늤Ðârkƒ£àmè¤ says:
you still said it. and it said that we were over

Pêåçh늤Ðârkƒ£àmè¤ says:
so you knwo what>?

Pêåçh늤Ðârkƒ£àmè¤ says:
you DID say it bob

Sir Caseman says:
I did not say we were through in that email

Pêåçh늤Ðârkƒ£àmè¤ says:
you certaily sounded like we were

Pêåçh늤Ðârkƒ£àmè¤ says:
and since i know i didnt say that

Pêåçh늤Ðârkƒ£àmè¤ says:
gee..who else could ahve amde that decision

Pêåçh늤Ðârkƒ£àmè¤ says:
YOU

Sir Caseman says:
"I still don't understand what it is about this one thing that has made you this way." I thought it was ripping us apart, not that we were apart.

Sir Caseman says:
but I didn't say it. you didn't either

Pêåçh늤Ðârkƒ£àmè¤ says:
bob that was a letter trying to make me feel bad

Pêåçh늤Ðârkƒ£àmè¤ says:
and it worked

Pêåçh늤Ðârkƒ£àmè¤ says:
it was also a letter that said we were over

Sir Caseman says:
it was a letter of pleading

Pêåçh늤Ðârkƒ£àmè¤ says:
and that worked too

Sir Caseman says:
I didnt know what was going on

Sir Caseman says:
I did not say we were over. it sounded like it. just like you never said we were over, it just seemed like it.

Pêåçh늤Ðârkƒ£àmè¤ says:
yeah bob. the whole i had to prove ppl wrong about us workign out and t was too bad i was close minded or we could ave worked out

Pêåçh늤Ðârkƒ£àmè¤ says:
yeah that was sayign we were over

Sir Caseman says:
I felt like you were trying to prove me wrong. I was trying to keep us together, and eveything kept turning around and smacking me in the face

Sir Caseman says:
we had the conversation on friday because you told me that you wanted me to argue with you

Pêåçh늤Ðârkƒ£àmè¤ says:
look bob

Pêåçh늤Ðârkƒ£àmè¤ says:
i'm over this

Pêåçh늤Ðârkƒ£àmè¤ says:
you hurt me more than you'll know

Pêåçh늤Ðârkƒ£àmè¤ says:
and its over ..you made that very clear

Sir Caseman says:
why does it have to be over Echo?

Pêåçh늤Ðârkƒ£àmè¤ says:
because bob....

Pêåçh늤Ðârkƒ£àmè¤ says:
with what you said to me yesterday out of anger

Pêåçh늤Ðârkƒ£àmè¤ says:
i know what you really think

Pêåçh늤Ðârkƒ£àmè¤ says:
and i know a clingy person and someone who needs space cant work

Sir Caseman says:
Thats not what I think, thats what I was feeling like at the time. And it could work, if we took the time to work it out, it would have been fine

Pêåçh늤Ðârkƒ£àmè¤ says:
things said in anger are the most true ever spoken

Sir Caseman says:
maybe for you

Sir Caseman says:
not for me

Pêåçh늤Ðârkƒ£àmè¤ says:
whatever bob. we are over

Sir Caseman says:
things said in love are the most true for me

Pêåçh늤Ðârkƒ£àmè¤ says:
i do not get over things that easily

Pêåçh늤Ðârkƒ£àmè¤ says:
and if you wanted to work things out

Pêåçh늤Ðârkƒ£àmè¤ says:
you shouldnt have said what you did

Sir Caseman says:
I didn't mean what I said. I thought you would be able to forgive something said and not ment...I was blinded by emotion, I wasn't listening to logic

Pêåçh늤Ðârkƒ£àmè¤ says:
I can forgive it but i am not goignt o get back together with you

Sir Caseman says:
I only want that forgiveness Echo

Sir Caseman says:
it seems pretty obvious that we can't work this out...no matter how much I wish we could, its over, I know that.

Sir Caseman says:
I'm sorry I caused you so much pain, I really am. I hope you'll get something good out of all of this. We could have been great together, but I guess some things are not ment to be. I'll always look back on this as one of the best relationships..I ever had the pleasure of being part of. Goodbye Echo... and good luck.

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quote:
Originally posted by Tattered:
Caseman's kewl, he sometimes makes good posts based on small observations.
Posted by ic0n0 on Oct. 14 2001,19:44
Damn man. I hate arguing over intent because it's so subjective, i feel your pain.

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Posted by MattimeoZ80 on Oct. 14 2001,19:56
huh, sounds freaking eerily familiar to something i went through a few months back. not exactly, but just the general demeanor, it's your fault etc, and nothing making sense. i know that's a bit vague but i can't really explain it much more besides its similar. my guess is that shes tired of you and wants another boyfriend, and needs a reason to justify it rather than just say it. girls seem to be like that for some reason. shes been probably waiting to find a good opportunty to make a "logical" break-up, but unfortunately it didn't turn out right because it isn't real. my suggestion: go get some pr0n or something, or go somewhere where theres lotsa h0t girls to look at. and if you need to deal with it in some other way, tell yourself that it's her fault, that she was the one not good enough for you, and not the other way around. believe that and you will be fine, because from the way it sounds, it is just another girl with problems and it wasn't your fault. don't believe that "i need space" crap, that carries the "screw off" subliminal message. i just hope you're not in the situation where you're going to have to see her ever day of your life for awhile. i hope you can remove her from your life, otherwise it could get tough. but you'll get through it, it isn't the end of the world. don't even think about killing yourself over it, millions of people go through it, life would suck if everyone matched. just think of it as a stop on the road to finding the person that's right for you.
Posted by caseman984 on Oct. 14 2001,20:48
She's been hinting that she needed a good reason to break up with me, thus my fears. She used the line "I've never broken up with anyone" on me when I met her. I see now that she does she just blames it on the other person. I do have to see her everyday of my life for the next few months, she sits next to me in my second period, and shes in my group for the aquarium. Bleh. I'm goin to a concert this weekend, should help me take my mind off things.

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quote:
Originally posted by Tattered:
Caseman's kewl, he sometimes makes good posts based on small observations.
Posted by caseman984 on Oct. 14 2001,20:52
quote:
Originally posted by ic0n0:
Damn man. I hate arguing over intent because it's so subjective, i feel your pain.

Very true, this was the whole fight basically. I've always seemed to have a hard time explaining my intent, because its usually complex.

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quote:
Originally posted by Tattered:
Caseman's kewl, he sometimes makes good posts based on small observations.
Posted by j0eSmith on Oct. 14 2001,21:03
Shes a Biiiiiiiitch. Tell her to fuck off and die.
Then;
Have a few beers with some friends and you'll get over it.

Thats my advice.

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I hope they bury me upside down, so the whole damn world can kiss my ass

Posted by Observer on Oct. 14 2001,22:07
She's how old again? Sounds about 16; too emotional to even listen to logic. She made up her mind about you, assuming all sorts of things, a long time ago. Trying to prove her wrong will only scare her and make her run more. Let her go. I'd tell you to try, but you either do or do not. There is no try.

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When 1337 hax0rs start impaling each other with swords and typing code with a hook on one hand, then they can modify the term "pirate."

Posted by askheaves on Oct. 14 2001,23:56
Don't bother on this one. She made it easy for you by acting like a biatch, and you made it easy by acting like an asshole. It's the cleanest break there can be, and now you answer to no one!
Posted by Observer on Oct. 15 2001,05:25
Her perception is flawed. The fact that you wanted to press on while she didn't told her warped mind that you wanted it or else.

Work through the pain, my friend.

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When 1337 hax0rs start impaling each other with swords and typing code with a hook on one hand, then they can modify the term "pirate."

Posted by Nikita on Oct. 15 2001,05:43
Maybe:
1) she needs some space
2) she doesn't know what the hell she wants
3) she's cheating on you but doesn't want to look like the ass in the relationship and is trying to justify it by saying that you broke up with her
4) I don't know what the hell I'm talking about?

Hell, this could be one of those little "tests" or something. Don't give her the satisfaction of seeing you crushed. It's gonna be hard, but try to enjoy life ... (I know, easier said than done ...) And when she sees you having fun with friends she'll probably want you back and you can tell her to stick it in a time capsule and shove it where the sun don't shine.

*hugs*

This message has been edited by Nikita on October 15, 2001 at 12:47 PM

Posted by caseman984 on Oct. 15 2001,08:56
quote:
Originally posted by Observer:
She's how old again? Sounds about 16

17, 18 in january, but shes had alot of emotional traumas, tho its not like no one else has had problems.. bleh

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quote:
Originally posted by Tattered:
Caseman's kewl, he sometimes makes good posts based on small observations.
Posted by Wolfguard on Oct. 15 2001,09:49
ok, she sounds a bit psycho to me. So, its time to push her over the edge a bit.

Find and nail one of her friends.

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Posted by CatKnight on Oct. 15 2001,11:43
ouch
Posted by veistran on Oct. 15 2001,14:34
only take Wolfguard's advice if you _want_ a stalker or worse :P
Posted by Dark-Angel99 on Oct. 15 2001,16:22
She is so stupid for treating you like that! You weren't mean to her at all, she just wanted a way out so she said anything she could... What a bitch! Tell her we are all on to her... Anyways, get over this girl, she is totally not worth it.
Posted by incubus on Oct. 15 2001,16:33
quote:
Originally posted by Wolfguard:
ok, she sounds a bit psycho to me. So, its time to push her over the edge a bit.

Find and nail one of her friends.

Excellent!

Posted by Dark Knight Bob on Oct. 15 2001,20:21
quote:
Originally posted by caseman984:

17, 18 in january, but shes had alot of emotional traumas,

boo hoo fucking hoo one more trauma wont hurt, dump her seeing as thats what she thinks you've done anywayz. if she wants to be in denial and fuck her life up you dont want to get involved. just get rid of her and dont EVER try to get involved with her again. speaking from expereience this makes your life liveable again. you should nt have to suffer cos some dumb chick doesnt realise shes in as much shit as the next person in this miserable world. sorry to be so harsh but fuck it thats whats gonna sort this mess out for yaz.


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simultaneity is not absolute. So just because you think i'm wrong, from my frame of reference i'm right!

This message has been edited by Dark Knight Bob on October 16, 2001 at 03:23 PM

Posted by caseman984 on Oct. 15 2001,23:03
I'm over her.. I grieved, I cried that horrible blubbering cry, but I felt the pain, and now I'm through with it. I refuse to cry any more tears for her, you guys, along with afew of my other friends, have shown me this in a new light. Thanks yall.

Anyway, how many of you know any single girls in the Largo/Clearwater area? cmon, fess up ;-)

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quote:
Originally posted by Tattered:
Caseman's kewl, he sometimes makes good posts based on small observations.
Posted by Dark-Angel99 on Oct. 15 2001,23:03
You want to hear trauma, I have never met my dad. I was sexually abused when I was 4 till I was 9 by my cousin. I was raped when I was 13 and 15. I am now 20 and have been in a relationship for 3 years and I am doing just fine. I think shes just using that as an excuse...

This message has been edited by Dark-Angel99 on October 16, 2001 at 06:04 PM

Posted by Nikita on Oct. 15 2001,23:17
Pity spring break is still far, far away ... though winter break is slowly creeping up ...

And I agree with Dark-Angel99 ... The past may define you in some ways, but by all means it shouldn't rule you.

Posted by The_Stomper on Oct. 16 2001,05:32
Wolfguard hits it dead on again, and I agree wholeheartedly. Under normal breakup circumstances I would recommend against that - but since this is obviously the Psycho Bitch from Hell who just fucked with your head and then broke up with you, I highly suggest you nail a MINIMUM of one of her friends.

For maximum effect, try for a multiple-girl session with her friends. If that's not possible, just take em one at a time.

Posted by caseman984 on Oct. 20 2001,16:27
Well just as I was about to move on.. I made one last attempt to Figure out one final detail. If she regretted the breakup why wuldn't she get back together with me anyway? I confronted her about this and she said she would have were it not for the fact that everyone at school was bugging her asking her why she broke up with me and syaing that I had told them to do so. I told people tha we broke up, I told them I felt like shit. I never told anyone to do anything I can't fucking control people.

So now I'm back down again, depressed/suicidal and all that bullshit.

BTW, If yall care to know any details.. I have a < Livejournal > up. I rant and rave about wonderous things there. Check it out some time.

Peace

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quote:
Originally posted by Tattered:
Caseman's kewl, he sometimes makes good posts based on small observations.
Posted by Hellraiser on Oct. 21 2001,23:28
Reminds me of "Sunset Beach" for some reason. Seriously though, caseman, I can feel your pain. I've had problems in the way of luv more often than not, and always wind up with naught in the end but "friends" or hurt feelings on both sides. It sux.

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Posted by TheTaxMan on Oct. 22 2001,10:25
quote:
Originally posted by caseman984:
Anyway, how many of you know any single girls in the Largo/Clearwater area? cmon, fess up ;-)

Yeah, AT ONCE!

Btw, I just moved to Tampa, enjoy.

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Originally posted by RenegadeSnark:
If you have a problem with the average IQ around here, don't do things to lower it.
Posted by EvilGenius on Oct. 22 2001,13:30
hell, i'd also like to know where some florida chicks are down ther.. i visit quite often.

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Posted by TheTaxMan on Oct. 22 2001,14:00
You're such a liar...one way or the other...

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quote:
Originally posted by RenegadeSnark:
If you have a problem with the average IQ around here, don't do things to lower it.
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