Topic: HUMANKIND IS A DISEASE
started by: Dysorderia
We eat and eat and eat away at this planet and give jack shit back to it
We have blown it up and tainted its rivers with our filth.
We have sterilized it with nuclear blasts and stained its earth with the blood of countless futile and pathetic wars.
Because of this, it is flushing us out like a bout of influenza.
The earth is bearing down on us with earthquakes, tornados and rising waters.
Let us only hope that our sting is nulled before it is too late.
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What's in a name?
A rose by any other name would still smell as sweet -- William Shakespeare
Anyhow, soon enough we'll be able to spread this disease to other planets as well- and some who aren't all that bad will start life upon another planet and not infect it- and you can go live there!
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Originally posted by solid:
Survival of the fittest.
Survival of the fittest, my fat ugly ass.
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What's in a name?
A rose by any other name would still smell as sweet -- William Shakespeare
Humans have not killed Earth, they've killed mankind. When all humans are dead and gone, Earth will still be here. Given a few hundred years after homo sapiens die away, Earth will go back to how it *SHOULD* be.
Damned humans and their big heads... If you're going to be a cynical philosipher, LEARN SOMETHING ABOUT THE DAMNED WAY HUMANS WORK, dillhole...
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Sometimes you're the dog, sometimes you're the hydrant...
you go first.
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...when you look long into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you
-- Friedrich Nietzsche
but anyway, i think you are a shilly newbie.
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Happiness is not a Fish that You can Catch - Our Lady Peace
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I have yet to meet a C compiler that is more friendly and easier to use than eating soup with a knife.
quote:
Originally posted by kai:
the world produced us? you sure about that one.
I am. Unless you want to think that God did it. In either event, welcome to the joy of fate. We're here, just like everything else on the planet, and rightly so.
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welcome to the joy of fate
ROFL! that just made my day.
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"I am not a Marxist." -- Karl Marx
Hellbitch(Dysorderia), looks like your up first.
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When my flying days are over, and my death has come to pass
I hope they bury me upside down, so the whole damn world can kiss my ass
quote:I did not say that we did not deserve to live, merely that we are a global cold.
Originally posted by j0eSmith:
Alright, that is fucking it. I am buying a gun, carving Evolution onto the barrel and I am killing every single person who doesn't think we should be alive on the earth.
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What's in a name?
A rose by any other name would still smell as sweet -- William Shakespeare
We eat and eat and eat away at this planet and give jack shit back to it
We have blown it up and tainted its rivers with our filth.
We have sterilized it with nuclear blasts and stained its earth with the blood of countless futile and pathetic wars.
Because of this, it is flushing us out like a bout of influenza.
The earth is bearing down on us with earthquakes, tornados and rising waters.
Let us only hope that our sting is nulled before it is too late.
OK
You guys and gals totally missed the point of my rant.
It is NOT aimed at anyone in particular, and I just wanted to summarize the history of mankind's rape of the earth upon which we inhabit.
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What's in a name?
A rose by any other name would still smell as sweet -- William Shakespeare
This message has been edited by Dysorderia on April 07, 2001 at 07:59 PM
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Originally posted by askheaves:
I am. Unless you want to think that God did it. In either event, welcome to the joy of fate. We're here, just like everything else on the planet, and rightly so.
Not rightly so, askheaves.
We are decendents of a mistake that happened to crawl of some puddle a few million years ago, and now that we have found out how to identify genes, it seems that we are going to try to play God as well.
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What's in a name?
A rose by any other name would still smell as sweet -- William Shakespeare
anyway, fuck nature. it's always trying to bite me, sting me, poison me, or eat me. I hate it.
edit: UBB won't let me post news: URLs? wtf???
This message has been edited by damien_s_lucifer on April 07, 2001 at 10:18 PM
for eons man has been struggling to survive against mother earth, and now that we're winning, she wants to play nice?
[/mrburns]
Dsyorderia, you used a computer to post this rant, right? it takes electricity to power that computer. electricity is made by burning oil. unless your running on solar power. in that case, it took machines to build those solar panels. those machines run on oil or electricity and what not.
so if your bitching about trashing the fucking earth, then why are you contributing to it!?
youre such a fucking hypocrit. get over it. everyone does their part to take a shit on the enviorment. its just part of life.
in short, SHUT THE FUCK UP
no if youll excuss me, i have to go dump my car's used oil in a river.
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...when you look long into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you
-- Friedrich Nietzsche
quote:
Originally posted by Dysorderia:
Because of this, it is flushing us out like a bout of influenza.The earth is bearing down on us with earthquakes, tornados and rising waters.
umm.... i remember an old phrase we used to use in primary school... what was it... oh, i remember:
GROW A BRAIN
earthquakes, tornadoes and floods were around long before humans were, its not like the earth invented natural disasters to keep us at bay you freak
quote:Correction:
Originally posted by Rhydant:
ok ok ok, i got a good one.
Dsyorderia, you used a computer to post this rant, right? it takes electricity to power that computer. electricity is made by burning oil. unless your running on solar power. in that case, it took machines to build those solar panels. those machines run on oil or electricity and what not.
so if your bitching about trashing the fucking earth, then why are you contributing to it!?
That electricity WILL be produced regardless of the implication that I Myself may or may not use it.
I do not contribute to the earth's destruction.
The people who use fossil fuels to make electricity do that very well on their own.
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What's in a name?
A rose by any other name would still smell as sweet -- William Shakespeare
quote:It is true that we did not invent them.
Originally posted by fatbitch:
earthquakes, tornadoes and floods were around long before humans were, its not like the earth invented natural disasters to keep us at bay you freak
However, in the last 100 years, they have been happening more frequently and with greater destructive force.
For example:
In England,
The coastline is quickly falling into the sea, taking anything that is on top of it with it(such as a house), because of the rising sea level caused by global warming.
Why did global warming happen?
Yes, that's right, it's because of humankind pumping their waste into the atmosphere(among other things).
I rest my case.
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What's in a name?
A rose by any other name would still smell as sweet -- William Shakespeare
quote:
Originally posted by jrh1406:
And how do we know that natural disasters are getting worse? The records we have don't go back nearly far enough for convincing proof. We have something tiny like 2\% of the earths history of natural disasters on record.
I am basing this over the last century or two, not over the history of beings
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What's in a name?
A rose by any other name would still smell as sweet -- William Shakespeare
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Originally posted by Rhydant:
ok ok ok, i got a good one.
Dsyorderia, you used a computer to post this rant, right? it takes electricity to power that computer. electricity is made by burning oil. unless your running on solar power. in that case, it took machines to build those solar panels. those machines run on oil or electricity and what not.
so if your bitching about trashing the fucking earth, then why are you contributing to it!?
youre such a fucking hypocrit. get over it. everyone does their part to take a shit on the enviorment. its just part of life.
in short, [b]SHUT THE FUCK UP
no if youll excuss me, i have to go dump my car's used oil in a river.[/B]
Only a Californian can be dumb, arrogant and headstrong in the same sentence
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What's in a name?
A rose by any other name would still smell as sweet -- William Shakespeare
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Sometimes you're the dog, sometimes you're the hydrant...
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Hey DKB shu'p with all that jibba jabber ya crazy foo!
Christ, someone needs a rehab clinic.
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When my flying days are over, and my death has come to pass
I hope they bury me upside down, so the whole damn world can kiss my ass
quote:Gee, someone has an inferiority complex.
Originally posted by j0eSmith:
Hey, hellbitch, since you think we're all destroying the earth, and its 'fighting back', why don't you make yourself part of the solution and put a bullet in your brain.Christ, someone needs a rehab clinic.
I did not say that it is fighting back.
The earth does not appear to be a living thing, so that is not possible.
and, BTW, please be so kind as to use Dysorderia when you refer to me, not Hellbitch, thank you.
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What's in a name?
A rose by any other name would still smell as sweet -- William Shakespeare
quote:Why?
Originally posted by Spydir Web:
holy fucking shit. Everytime this child stumbles his ignorant fingers across his keyboard it makes me want to choke a small animal or large rodent.
Do you have an affinity for choking small animals and/or large rodents?
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What's in a name?
A rose by any other name would still smell as sweet -- William Shakespeare
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"I am not a Marxist." -- Karl Marx
quote:From ice?
Originally posted by ic0n0:
The Earth throughout its 5 billion year history has been dynamic and constantly changing just because we are here doesn’t change that. In fact earth has become more stable environmentally in the past 100,000 according to evidence collected from ice in Greenland and Antarctica. Things have always sucked and they will continue to suck no way around it.
damn.
and I thought nano-computers were good.
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What's in a name?
A rose by any other name would still smell as sweet -- William Shakespeare
This message has been edited by Dysorderia on April 08, 2001 at 10:21 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Dysorderia:
Correction:That electricity [b]WILL be produced regardless of the implication that I Myself may or may not use it.
I do not contribute to the earth's destruction.
[/B]
WRONG! oh my god, youre such an idiot. power doesnt go to waste. if you choose to turn off the lights, power will be diverted to another outlet. if you turn the lights on again, more power will be required, and more oil will be burned to produce that power. you fucking idiot.
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Originally posted by Dysorderia:
[BOnly a Californian can be dumb, arrogant and headstrong in the same sentence
[/B]
hahaha! youre trying to insult me! GOOD TRY! but no cigar.
does anyone else agree with me that this lam0r is a total fucking moron? or is it just me?
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...when you look long into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you
-- Friedrich Nietzsche
quote:
Originally posted by Dysorderia:
Correction:
That electricity [b]WILL be produced regardless of the implication that I Myself may or may not use it.
I do not contribute to the earth's destruction.
[/B]
thats like saying you use a computer, but because other people are using electricity, i'm not.
youre so terribly wrong. wrong wrong wrong.
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...when you look long into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you
-- Friedrich Nietzsche
quote:
Originally posted by Dysorderia:
Correction:That electricity WILL be produced regardless of the implication that I Myself may or may not use it.
I do not contribute to the earth's destruction.The people who use fossil fuels to make electricity do that very well on their own.
What the hell is that?? I mean of course it matters that your using it! If everyone thought "Hey, what if I switched to solar power" then the power companies would be out of bussiness, seriously. I mean the whole "I"m only one peron in the vast planet, so I can't make a difference" crap really gets on my nerves! What a bad exscuse! Do something about it! If you don't like the power company switch to some alternative and then go and spread the word!
anyways I do believe at the moment we're being some real shit heads to the Earth, but in the long run it doesn't really matter.
[Edit: fixed quote]
This message has been edited by DeadAnztac on April 08, 2001 at 12:46 PM
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Originally posted by Sithiee:
its not because the earth hates england.
Sounds like a good enough reason to me.
And shut up, duder. We're putting more heat into the atmosphere from our own metabolism than our CO2. If there's extra CO2 in the air, plant-life increases to make up for it.
And for all you fucknuggets (borrow) out there that confuse the hole in the Ozone layer, Greenhouse effect, Acid rain, methane, CFCs, Global warming, rising waters, and all that shit and don't know which things belong to each other, you need to die or get informed before bringing about any new diatribes on humans killing the planet. We're small, world is big. We can create nasty localized effects, but the earth balances a lot of that out. It's not panic time yet.
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Originally posted by Sithiee:
there have always been tides, and the water has always shifted sand. the moving water moves around the sand. takes sand away from one place, moves it somewhere else. its not because the earth hates england.
Yes, but i did not say anything about the earth hating England.
I merely used England as an example.
Trust me, down in the south of England, the sea does a lot more than just shift sand, it is eating away at the coast.
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What's in a name?
A rose by any other name would still smell as sweet -- William Shakespeare
quote:That's the stupid belief that got the earth in this state in the first place.
Originally posted by DeadAnztac:
anyways I do believe at the moment we're being some real shit heads to the Earth, but in the long run it doesn't really matter.
*edit* Fixed bold tags *edit*
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What's in a name?
A rose by any other name would still smell as sweet -- William Shakespeare
This message has been edited by Dysorderia on April 08, 2001 at 12:56 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Dysorderia:
Yes, that's right, it's because of humankind pumping their waste into the atmosphere(among other things).I rest my case.
If thats what your resting your case on never, ever, become a lawyer. You will starve.
More greenhouse gasses and other particles have been pumped into the air in the past 100 years by mother earth's valcanos than by man. Those are just the ones that are ABOVE sea level.
Global warming has happened in the past, before man even discovered fire.
Funny thing is that in the 70's they were starting to predict another ICE AGE because of global temps droping for a few years.
Put an idiot in front of a camera and tell them they have more idiots watching and they will try to sound the doom and gloom alert because it makes them feel smarter than the rest of us.
Yes, mankind has done damage to the planet but still has help from the planet itself.
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That was WAY off of the mark.
I did not say, nor did I even imply that energy goes to waste.
What I did say is that electrical energy will be produced and used, if not by me, then by somebody else.
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What's in a name?
A rose by any other name would still smell as sweet -- William Shakespeare
This message has been edited by Dysorderia on April 09, 2001 at 01:02 PM
), you are so arrogant and wrong.
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Originally blathered by Dyslexia:
Humans are a virus.
You shamelessly rip off The Matrix. Blasphemer.
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Originally blathered by Dysfunctional:
We eat and eat and eat away at this planet and give jack sh*t back to it
We give ourselves back to it, ya moron. Humans die, become worm food, and are absorbed back into the earth. Thus, "Mother Nature" has her ultimate revenge.
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Originally blathered by Dysturbed:
We are decendents of a mistake that happened to crawl of some puddle a few million years ago...
If we are such a mistake, then why are we still here? Humankind isn't a mistake, it is a species that is so far successful in maintaining life. If we were a mistake we would've died out long ago. If we are becoming a mistake, then we will die out.
OK, I'm tired of quoting. Try this on for size: You say that you do not contribute to the earth's destruction? I say you are, and you're a hypocrite. Do you use lights? Your computer? Do you drive in to work/school? The fact is, your cushy lifestyle with your computer and your TV and your indoor plumbing and your nice little car/bus/whatever contributes to the pollution of earth, so how dare you say that you don't contribute. If you truly don't want to contribute, go live under a tree in the woods until you die of starvation or get eaten by a wolf or something.
Finally, I wish to re-emphasize a point that you ignored earlier, made by Spyder Web: we are incapable of destroying the earth. Sure, we can pollute it, cause some climate changes, contribute to natural erosion, and so on, but we don't remotely have enough power to destroy it. So what if we destroy the Ozone layer? Radiation is good for evolution, it accelerates the mutation that creates new species. So what if we think we kill off some species? Mother Nature has killed off more species than we can count. The only harm we will cause will be to ourselves as a species--life will continue and survive on this planet, no matter what we do.
So get a freakin' clue and realize that we are really truly only a danger to ourselves--the earth can look after herself quite well, thank you.
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--Jynx
I used to be a kleptomaniac, but then I took something for it.
quote:
Originally posted by Dysorderia:
What I did say is that electrical energy will be produced and used, if not by me, then by somebody else.
ok, i can see that point.
BUT
if you use that damned computer of yours, YOU are using energy. the powerplants have to burn MORE oil for YOUR energy needs.
god damnit, get it straight! you cant win!
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...when you look long into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you
-- Friedrich Nietzsche
quote:Point taken.
Originally posted by Jynx:
Finally, I wish to re-emphasize a point that you ignored earlier, made by Spyder Web: we are incapable of destroying the earth. Sure, we can pollute it, cause some climate changes, contribute to natural erosion, and so on, but we don't remotely have enough power to destroy it. So what if we destroy the Ozone layer? Radiation is good for evolution, it accelerates the mutation that creates new species. So what if we think we kill off some species? Mother Nature has killed off more species than we can count. The only harm we will cause will be to ourselves as a species--life will continue and survive on this planet, no matter what we do.
BUT,
if you read my original post, I did not say, nor did I even imply that we could or would destroy the earth.
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What's in a name?
A rose by any other name would still smell as sweet -- William Shakespeare
quote:This isn't about winning.
Originally posted by Rhydant:
ok, i can see that point.
BUT
if you use that damned computer of yours, YOU are using energy. the powerplants have to burn MORE oil for YOUR energy needs.
god damnit, get it straight! you cant win!
I was ranting about the fact that humans have killed so much, and have so little to show for it.
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What's in a name?
A rose by any other name would still smell as sweet -- William Shakespeare
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Sometimes you're the dog, sometimes you're the hydrant...
oh, and rhydant, dont forget to point out that not all power comes from burning stuff. a lot comes from hydroelectric plants, nuclear plants, etc. hydroelectric plants, i dont see how those are bad. nuclear plants are (as far as ive read/heard) very safe, and very clean.
bottom line, dyswhateverthefuckyouare, go hug a fucking tree so that we dont have to deal with your pansy ass.
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Estuan interius
ira vehementi
quote:....
Originally dribbled by Sithiee:
in the grand scheme of things we are NOTHING. relative to the earths history, we are nothing. do you get it? humans are nothing. you have to know that your are stupid and that you will die.
ignorance rears it's ugly head yet again.
Sithiee, don't you get it?
Human kind has made itself a record in earth's history by killing so many habitats and so many species.
THAT is what this rant is all about.
Duh.
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What's in a name?
A rose by any other name would still smell as sweet -- William Shakespeare
This message has been edited by Dysorderia on April 10, 2001 at 10:33 AM
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Sometimes you're the dog, sometimes you're the hydrant...
quote:
Originally posted by Dysorderia:
Sithiee, don't you get it?
Human kind has made itself a record in earth's history by killing so many habitats and so many species.
Dyslexia, don't you get it? Compared to other events, humandkind has done nothing.
If you believe in the Bible, consider the Noah story--God destroyed the entire earth, with a few small exceptions.
If you don't believe in the Bible, consider the dinosaurs--they were wiped out suddenly, according to fossil records--something just killed off the dominant life form on the earth. Consider Ice Ages, major volcanic eruptions, meteor strikes. Humandkind has done nothing even remotely as catastrophic as any of these.
So, perhaps it would benefit you to think before you type.
Duh.
--J
this is true in many cases.
there is a certain species of clams that distribute their seeds by flailing an extremity that is meant to resemble a guppy, which attracts larger fish to try to and eat it, and when they do so, the clam squirts its seeds, which get caught in the fish's lungs and grow to a new generation of clams.
now, the more the clams evolved, the better the mimicry of the guppy became. the clams that didn't have good guppy dummies (for lack of a better term) didn't get to reproduce and, therefore, they died out. the ones that survived were the ones with the best guppy dummies, and they successfully reproduced to pass their genes on to further generations, which also had the good guppy dummies. so you see, evolution is always right. consider Dalton's theory. for instance, a species of moth, with a body coloured to resemble a certain tree bark as camouflage, spreads to a new area, where the specific tree that it requires, doesn't exist. over the millenia, it will evolve to adapt to its new surroundings...
humans, on the other hand, can't wait for the millenia to pass, and therefore try to change their surroundings instead. we humans don't know how to adapt, and in our quest to create our perfect world, we destroy it.
but evolution, in the long run, will prevail.
if humans render this world inhabitable, evolution will allow for adaptation, and in turn, a new form of life will develop.
all it needs is time...
This message has been edited by T-bone on April 17, 2001 at 08:09 AM
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"I am not a Marxist." -- Karl Marx
Whether or not this is an inherently 'bad' thing is another question. When bacteria started producing oxygen billions of years ago, they changed the face of this planet forever, and made it possible for us to live, along with many other things. This resulted in the total 'destruction' and 'rape' of what was once before, since oxygen killed many other bacterium and changed the makeup of our atmosphere. Humans may very well do the same thing, but it is only a change, nothing more. Value judgements are, as always, subjective. Who knows, our activities on this planet may give way to life which breathes carbon monoxide or eats plastic. Actually, if any future life forms want to exist on Earth, they'd better be able to do one of those two things...but I digress.
I do enjoy nature, but its more of a primal thing than some sort of over-romanticized conception of nature as some sort of eternal nurturing presence.