rofl

im surprised to hear that outta u fire, u bein a ch1ck and all.

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Hey DKB shu'p with all that jibba jabber ya crazy foo!

This message has been edited by pengu1nn on March 23, 2001 at 12:53 PM

anyway, you can't just send people into space. we are still not sure of all the physiological effects of microgravity so we can't just go sending people up to charge them money to further research. most people are not even physically qualified to go. here's a list..

Medical and Psychological Tests Administered to Astronaut Candidates:
1. Medical history and review of systems
(this one knocks most applicants out)
2. Physical examination
3. Electocardiographic examinations, includingroutine electrocardiographic studies at rest, during hyperventilation, carotid massage, and breath holding, a double master exercise tolerance test, a cold pressure test, and a precordial map.
4. treadmill exercise tolerance test
5. vecrtocardiographic study
6. phonocardiographic study
7. tilt table studies
8. pulmonary function studies
9. Radiographic studies, including choleycystograms, upper GI series, lumbrosacral spine, chest, vervical spine, and skull films
10. Body composition study, using tritium dilution
11. laboratory examinations, comlete hematology workup, urinalysis, serologic test, glucose tolerance test, acid alkaline phosphatase, BUN, sodium potassium, bicarbonate, chloride, calcium phosphorus, magnesium, uric acid, bilirubin, thymol turbidity, cephalin flocculation, SGOT, SGPT, total protein with albumin and globulin, separate determination of alpha 1 and alpha 2, beta and gamma globulins, protein-bound iodine, creatinine, cholesterol, total lipids and phospholipids, hydroxyproline, and red blood cell intracellular sodium and potassium. stool specimens were examined for occult blood and microscopically for ova and parasites. a urine culture for bacterial growth was done, and a 24 hour specimen analyzed for 17 ketosteroids and 17 hydroxycorticosteroids.
12. detailed examination of the sinuses, larynx, and eustachian tubes
13. vestibular studies
14. diagnostic hearing tests
15. visual fields and special eye examinations
16. general surgical evaluation
17. procto-sigmoidoscopy
18. dental examination
19. neurological examination
20.psychological summary, including wechsler adult intelligence test, bender visual-motor gestalt test, rorschach test, thematic apperception test, draw-a-person test, gordon personal profile, edwards' personal preference schedule, miller analogies test, and performance testing.
21. electroencephalographic studies
22. centrifuge testing

i don't even know what half of those procedures are, but i'm sure they are difficult and costly. i'm sure these could be narrowed down for commercial reasons but not until we can effectively rule out certain effects...but we don't know yet what is and is not affected for sure, or how or why, or what countermeasures to provide. the simplest things matter though. if you have a filling in you teeth that is not sealed properly, or has some air stuck in it, that pressure will be magnified on reentry and cause severe pain. if you have any spinal problems at all you can't handle the pressure of reentry. those are just simple ones. see how this cuts down half the applicants? i'm not saying the commercial idea is bad, in fact i think it's a probable outcome, but we just aren't ready for anything like that at all yet.

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...when you look long into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you
-- Friedrich Nietzsche

Also... why does everyone always say "everything needs oxygen to live!!". yeah, on Earth. It's evolution. And I'm not saying evolution is the creation, but you can't deny that it happens. Things CHANGE to fit their ENVIROMENT. So if there's no O2, but there's a lot of helium or something, then organisms might grow to survive on helium. And this whole "water" thing people say... yet again, yeah, here on Earth. But that's cuz it was there. Organisms on Earth grew with it, so we used it. Lots of Nitrogen? Makes proteins. On some other planet the bettles or something might use piss out nitrogen or something. It's all evolution...

sorry, but I just had to yell about that. I see it to much. So yeah, there is such thing as "space fungus". Andromeda Strain man

Also... what if that shit causes problems with our atmosphere or something. Seriously. I mean, they just crashed that fungus right into the earth. What if it reproduces with the oxygen levels or something and depletes ozone or something. Did they even think about that or did I just not ever read it?

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Sometimes you're the dog, sometimes you're the hydrant...

There was oxygen on the inside of Mir, as well as moisture and dark cool areas. Sounds like a recipe for unrestricted growth of a fungus. The fungus makes it's way up there in supplies, people's lungs, people's skin, air from the supply ships, etc. Then, it is able to grow from there.

The inside has had fires, rust, wiring problems, computer failures, as well. The thing was a death trap.

As for Andromeda strain or messing with the atmosphere, it's a variety of mutated terrestrial fungi. It came down at 7 thousand billion miles per hour and was heated to 32 million degrees before it hit the ocean with a force of 96 thousand trillion Newtons. With totally large accurate numbers like those, how could any fungus even survive reentry? Terrestrial fungi that grow in a cool damp dark moist area wouldn't do well when nearing the speed of light.

nevermind the fact that they also killed her.

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'dancing is the vertical expression of horizontal desire.'
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Originally posted by Dark Knight Bob:
yeah but it has been up there for far too long than it was planned to be up there for.

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Dont forget the nasty space fungus that was eating it from the inside out.

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This message has been edited by L33T_h4x0r_d00d on March 27, 2001 at 12:36 PM

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Originally posted by Spydir Web:
Also... why does everyone always say "everything needs oxygen to live!!". yeah, on Earth

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Haven't you heard of anerobic lifeforms? They live without oxygen. They get energy from the heat in rocks and other such wierd places.

Did you also know that oxygen is a metabolic poison? Try breathing it at above 2atm and see how long you survive.

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Originally posted by fire_502:
i'm so sick of hearing about this damn taco bull shit. this space station was in orbit for 15 years, 15 years! the experiments run and the knowledge gained are all contributing to global efforts toward space habitation and it's all trivialized by fucking tacos! no one cares about anything but free tacos! i'm not nuts, really...i just have this aerospace physiology class this term and it's awesome and i love it and shit like this pisses me off...that people can be so ignorant. plus i just don't like tacos.

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this is about tacos not mir and it's glory days

This message has been edited by pengu1nn on March 28, 2001 at 01:48 PM

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Originally posted by masher:
Haven't you heard of anerobic lifeforms? They live without oxygen. They get energy from the heat in rocks and other such wierd places.

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that's what I'm saying. I always get in arguements with my science teachers (each year) about it. They all say everything needs oxygen to servive or else nothing would excist or some BS. Ticks me off... just no logical thinking anymore...

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Sometimes you're the dog, sometimes you're the hydrant...

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Originally posted by askheaves:
[B]Holy Christ, people.
As for Andromeda strain or messing with the atmosphere...B]

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...when you look long into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you
-- Friedrich Nietzsche

they go up there as normal bacteria. they come in contact witht the vacuum of space. they mutate.

and then they do something bacteria can do. they form a spore. a big hard shell around them that withstands heat, impact, salt water, everything. and then we're fucked when they come out of the spore.

it sounds funny, but there *are* bacteria that have been experimented on while in spore form. they came out of egyptian tombs. they're thousands of years old. and still alive.

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kuru
'dancing is the vertical expression of horizontal desire.'
-robert frost