i'm sorry to hear that you royally got shit on by a member of my gender.

* kuru inches ever closer to the male side of the world.

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kuru
'dancing is the vertical expression of horizontal desire.'
-robert frost

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kuru
'dancing is the vertical expression of horizontal desire.'
-robert frost

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Originally posted by CatKnight:
i'm still in shock

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Kims will do that to you...

So, this came out of the blue and you had no warning?

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Leaving the trees was a bad idea.
< TeamWolfguard.com >

do yourself a favor and call the girl up. demand an explanation. And let her know how mad you are. What she did to you is pathetic, cowardly, and inexcusable.

and then tell her those pants really do make her look fat.

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kuru
'dancing is the vertical expression of horizontal desire.'
-robert frost

i doubt i will ever see her again anyway. she will probably give up a good job to avoid me too.

im not calling back though. i want to get over it and not dwell over matters.

#PAINT MA PICTURE, SMACK MA BITCH UP#

and just leave out the picture part >: )

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It's not that you're wrong, it's just that i'm right!

In either case, yeah, my gf of 2 years dumped me by phone. It sucks because you dont get proper "closure". The next one I dumped, but at least I did it to her face.

Relationships suck ass ...

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As I chase the leaves like the words I never find ...

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It's not that you're wrong, it's just that i'm right!

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Originally posted by incubus:
In either case, yeah, my gf of 2 years dumped me by phone. It sucks because you dont get proper "closure".

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Which is precisely why I recommend calling them to find out why and to let them know you're fucking pissed off. There is gratitude in letting someone who pulled some shit like that on you that you fucking hate them for it.

she will use this opportunity to kick you in the nuts while you are already down, and basically destroy whatever self worth you had left after she cruelly and unexpectedly brought new meaning to 'reach out & touch someone'.

trust me, i know, i've got inside info into how chicks do these things.

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kuru
'dancing is the vertical expression of horizontal desire.'
-robert frost

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Originally posted by kuru:
she will use this opportunity to kick you in the nuts while you are already down, and basically destroy whatever self worth you had left after she cruelly and unexpectedly brought new meaning to 'reach out & touch someone'.

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Kuru's kind of right. They'll say just about anything to make you feel like shit. Don't do it unless you KNOW what you're good at, and what you're bad at - and then when she tells you all the shit you suck at, you'll know she's just saying it to make you feel worse, and then you can smile with the satisfaction of knowing that she's a bitch.

Ain't no better closure than knowing your ex sucks total ass.

in any illogical argument fueled by emotions, even if the female doesn't win, she's going to inflict some serious wounds to the male. don't think for a minute that arguing with her is 'ok' if you already know the bad points about yourself.

she will bring them to a whole new level of bad, and succeed in making you feel like total shit. worst of all, some of the things that you would put squarely on your 'good' list will to her become HORRIBLE.

she will rip them and you apart, in fact she's probably already lookin for you to come back to argue it. she knows she's got the first wound in by dumping you, and that if you do go and argue over it, she knows she's cut you already. the rest is just drawing more blood through the wound. chicks are mean, spiteful, vindictive and manipulative, and if you go fight this out with her, you're walkin right into exactly what she wants.

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kuru
'dancing is the vertical expression of horizontal desire.'
-robert frost

anyway, i've already decided im not calling back so...yeah

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Originally posted by kuru:
you guys are all crazy. women have a genetic marker...

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GRRR! Jesus! That makes me almost want to launch a 20 megatonne nuke on an all women country!

Ohhh! So THAT'S why the law's so uptight about womens' rights. Jeez, they coulda just said it straight out.

women will deliberately rip apart and scar someone who loves them if it makes them 'feel better.'

men will rip apart and scar someone who loves them because they have no freakin clue that this is an emotionally damaging statement.

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kuru
'dancing is the vertical expression of horizontal desire.'
-robert frost

1st world countries get battles of the sexes and extremely manipulative governments.
2nd world countries get good resource production and attractions.
3rd world countries get wars, opression, and civil disorders.

Now to get back to topic, only towards the opposite sex are women evil to men, as men are stupid towards women.

and even i end up pulling 'evil woman tricks' because i can't always think in time to stop the genetic hell from rushing in.

though i still prefer 'dumb accidental' pain to 'deliberately inflicted' wounds of torture. guess that's why i'm not a lesbian.

anyway, nothin against men or women there.

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kuru
'dancing is the vertical expression of horizontal desire.'
-robert frost

To say all women are genetically marked is a gross overgeneralization of women and Im almost insulted. I think you can control what comes out of your mouth when you know its going to be harmful to them. I do agree that sometimes men dont realise what they say is hurtful to their girlfriends, but I think it has less to do with intelligence and more to do with poor teaching.

In addition Cat that sucks that she did that to you. But i have a feeling that you were better off with out her anyway- but if you feel the need to get "closure" you should do it. If she starts harping on your bad points you always have the option of walking away/hanging up the phone or whatever. You dont need her to drain you more emotionally.

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Originally posted by Chrissy:
gross overgeneralization
poor teaching.
you always have the option of walking away/hanging up the phone

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No. No matter what you say, you have the ability to be evil, calculated, cold, evil, manipulative, and probably even evil. I guarantee you all women have that potential. It's just a matter of tapping into that potential, which some women enjoy more than others.

It's not poor teaching... it's lack of foresight (not foreskin). We know that we usually want to inflict some level of pain at that point (during a fight), but we do bomb damage estimates based on bad numbers... what we would expect from a normal man. In normal conversation, we have no malicious intent and words strung into sentances tend to escape our lips. Sometimes, these random thoughts intersect with something the woman is sensitive about. Looking at intent, the guy is making conversation. Impact, however, is a different story.

That's awesome advice to CatKnight. In the middle of the conversation (especially face-to-face), just turn around and walk away when it becomes totally a rip-fest on you. If you want to strike a deathblow to a woman, don't talk to her.

And I will restate for the record that I am not nor have I ever been nasty to someone I broke up with or who broke up with me just because "I can".

And I do still think its part lack of teaching and understanding women that cause men to be hurtful unintentionally. I think women are unintentionally hurtful as well but its for completely different reasons. Women are truly unintentional about it (or at least I am) and men well they are just trying to push the envelope.

ex. Last month I had an argument with my boyfriend about I dont know some bullshit as per usual. He said something that honestly hurt my feelings and when I started to get upset all he could do was apologise to me. Now he admitted that he wanted to hurt me because I had hurt him (unintentionally) but he didnt mean to make it hurt that badly.

So you see my point- there is something pathelogical about why men hurt women (even when they claim its "unintentional") its intentional just not to the degree it actually hurt.

but blah anyway about it- because you are only gonna disagree with me anyway-

As for menminds vs. womenminds. In normal conversation, a man can let a random thought out that a woman takes very personally. At that point, there's nothing that can be done but hide for 3 days until she misses you again. If a woman lets something like that out, the guy takes offense for a second, looks at her smiling face, then realizes it was a joke or a rip. We get it all the time from guys and we know how to take it. I don't know what's up with women. They don't communicate the same way as men (duh), and different rules apply. It's not a matter of not being taught. Your parents don't tell you the subtleties of inter-gender communication. They tell you "Don't knock her up, Junior. And bring me some more Chicken Wings and a beer".

In a fight, men can be ruthless. We can't think as fast as you, and our past event recall mechanism has a much slower I/O rate than women. That's why some men become violent, and some men become hurtful. It's like a ferret being backed into a verbal corner... we'll swipe for your nose or eyes if we feel we have to. It's that this desperite attack is not planned or thought out, and was only meant to give us a second to get our ears to stop bleeding and to think of a god damn thing to say.

i like to think i'm one of them, egotistical as it is.

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kuru
'dancing is the vertical expression of horizontal desire.'
-robert frost

Thanks for the explination on that a.h =)

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"I ated the purple berries...they tasted like burning"

Thanks for the explination on that a.h =)

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"I ated the purple berries...they tasted like burning"

So basically, it may be a good thing that girls piss guys off and guys piss girls off, because life would be really boring without that tension. Plus, if guys and girls thought the same way, we all might as well be homosexual...

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Originally posted by Chrissy:
Ive decided to keep my mouth shut on that last post.

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No, I'm interested. I want to hear it. Go ahead, tear into me!!!

Was it the "women crave acceptance" thing? if so, EVERYONE craves acceptance, men AND women. Not a sexist thing any more than saying "women need to eat, sleep, and bathe" is.

Ladies, your man needs you to accept him.

Gentleman, your ladies need you to accept them.

This message has been edited by damien_s_lucifer on February 09, 2001 at 05:33 PM

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Chrissy said:

To say all women are genetically marked is a gross overgeneralization of women and Im almost insulted.

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ok then. but i stand by it. women are cruel, vindictive, manipulative and mean to levels that men are not. men don't start an argument with someone else over something that person doesn't even know they did wrong and cry and stomp their feet until the female apologizes.

it doesn't happen.

if anything, if the above argument DOES happen, the female (even if it is her fault to begin with) cries and stomps her feet until the male apologizes.

that's life.

pulling an emotional trip and making sure the guy can 'do nothing but apologize' is manipulation. it's cruel. and it's present in all women. few have learned NOT to do that to men.

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kuru
'dancing is the vertical expression of horizontal desire.'
-robert frost

Aw.. dammit..
my dad said this would happen! its just not right! why the hell is the world like this?? lemme back in the womb!

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Originally posted by askheaves:
In normal conversation, a man can let a random thought out that a woman takes very personally. At that point, there's nothing that can be done but hide for 3 days until she misses you again. If a woman lets something like that out, the guy takes offense for a second, looks at her smiling face, then realizes it was a joke or a rip.

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A lot of men hide for 3 days, but it's not necessary. It is remarkably easy to recover when you stick your foot in your mouth - example from recent experience:

ME : "Jeez, you're paranoid."
HER : "What's that supposed to mean? Why are you insulting me?"
ME : "Because I can."
HER : (starting to get really angry) "So what, you hurt me just because you can?"
ME : (smiling warmly) "That was a joke, sweetie... 'cause you KNOW you're paranoid, but while you think it's a bad thing, I totally love you for it."
HER : (glares at me) "Right."
ME : (taking her hand) "Look, there is no one else like you in the world. I wouldn't change you if I could."
HER : "Really?"
ME : "Duh."
HER : (puts head on my shoulder) "You know, nobody's ever treated me as well as you do when I get mad."
ME : "That's because I'm an alien."

etc.

and that was that. Here's the thing : even if they're stong, independent women who usually don't give a fuck WHAT someone thinks, WOMEN CRAVE ACCEPTANCE. You just have to give it to them, on a regular basis, and you'll be fine.

As for the bad ones, I say go for it. Have a "talk" with her, and if she starts wailing on you, smile sweetly, say "well, time for me to go" and walk away.

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"I ated the purple berries...they tasted like burning"

i blame commercials, society, and the femenist movements pushed it a little too.