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Topic: Poems and English Spelling.
started by: ic0n0

Posted by ic0n0 on Jan. 28 2001,15:04

I don't know if any one else does but I hate poems, I mean I really hate them they are stupid and have no meaning out side of the fact someone tried to put meaning into one and expects you to figure it out. There retarded. I propose we end the use of poems and no longer teach it to future generations.
And all things that rhyme should be banned and American businesses that use English spellings like ye old Shoppe should be taxed extra an old english tax, that pisses me off or towne centre ahhhh!!!! Everything in Ireland was like that why do people insist on using that in the states. AHHHH!!!

This message has been edited by ic0n0 on January 29, 2001 at 10:05 AM

Posted by cr0bar on Jan. 28 2001,15:25

I'll listen to what you have to say about the misuse of the English language when you learn to use the correct form of "They're".

Deal?

Posted by ic0n0 on Jan. 28 2001,19:32

I try my best, i'm sorry that's not good enough for you. It sucks to dyslexic ok, i see words in my head but it's hard to put them down.

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This message has been edited by ic0n0 on January 29, 2001 at 02:34 PM

Posted by Dark Knight Bob on Jan. 28 2001,19:35

still poems do suck. unless they is funny, the boring dull normal ones suck though.

Posted by Vigilante on Jan. 28 2001,20:05

Quite right. Limericks are the only form of poetry I acknowledge.

Posted by Spydir Web on Jan. 28 2001,21:24

quit blaming things on being "dyslexic" (I don't even think that's the right spelling). Poetry is a pretty nice thing. Just cuz you're an idiot and can't understand why people rhyme "dime" with "emit" (that's time for us non-dyslexics) or why people write things to express how they feel does not mean poetry sucks. Yes, much poetry does suck (oh my sweet love\ I want to hold you like a dove\ because you're so very... bull shit, kthx.

), but there is some pretty damned cool shit out there.

And why do people use "towne centre" and what not? Because it's PROPER ENGLISH! Have you ever noticed when you read a British book they spell meter "metre"? Holy crap, I wonder why?!?! They're just stupid wannabee American's, right? WRONG! Us American's screwed up the english language. Not saying it wasn't fucked up in the first place, but damn did we screw it over.

And I love funny poems . I wrote a cool one about my teacher last year

Ode to Mr. Puls
For he taught me little,
and wasted my time.

I used that in a project for his class... if you can tell me what kind of poem it is, you'll win a "Ic0n0 is a loser who blames everything on the simple fact his optic nerves are slightly out of order and he's simply an idiot cuz he things poetry sucks!" award! w00p-w00p!

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Posted by jiggyfresh on Jan. 29 2001,01:56

"ill take swords for 躔"

Posted by solid on Jan. 29 2001,03:51

i dislike poems. its like they have problems expressing themselves.

its much more easier to just say it. poems are just a way to make people listen to it more.

Posted by kuru on Jan. 29 2001,05:31

or when he learns that 'outside' is all one word and doesn't mean the same thing as 'beside'.

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'dancing is the vertical expression of horizontal desire.'
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Posted by WillyPete on Jan. 29 2001,06:19

I think the main problem here is that you guys don't like the fact that some poems make you think. Don't worry, the pain goes away after a while.

You forget how important poems are in our lives. How many times have you remembered something important because of a rhyming structure?
Think of some of the classics like The Iliad or The Aenid. Those were all poems that have been translated for us.
Most national anthems are poetry set to music.
What would America (and the world) be without Robert Frost's 'Building Walls'.

Funny I bet the same people who moan about poems are the same ones whose radio is set to the local rap station. Talk about banal rhyming......

Posted by cr0bar on Jan. 29 2001,14:12

The following are "poems" (limmericks, to be exact). If you don't like them, you're a moron and have no business using a language at all:

She made a thing of soft leather,
And topped off the end with a feather.
When she poked it inside her
She took off like a glider,
And gave up her lover forever.
--
A whimsical fellow named Bloch
Could beat the base drum with his cock.
With a special erection
He could play a selection
From Johann Sebastian Bach.
--
If you'd like to cultivate insomnia,
Bed down with a pretty girl.
Amor vincit omnia.
--
The once was a man from Bombay
Who modeled his cunts out of clay
So hot was his prick
That he turned them to brick
And rubbed all his foreskin away.
--
There was a young fellow of Warwick
Who had reason for feeling euphoric,
For he could by election
Have triune erection:
Ionic, Corinthian, and Doric.
--
There was an old pirate named Bates
Who was learning to rhumba on skates.
He fell on his cutlass
Which rendered him nutless
And practically useless on dates.
--
There was a young lady named Grace
Who would not take a prick in her "place."
Though she'd kiss it and suck it,
She never would fuck it--
She just couldn't relax face-to-face.
--
There was a young man from Hong Kong
Who had a trifurcated prong:
A small one for sucking,
A large one for fucking,
And a `boney' for beating a gong.
--
A do-it-yourselfer named Alice,
Used a dynamite stick for a phallus.
She blew her vagina
To South Carolina,
And her tits landed somewhere in Dallas.

. . .plenty more where that came from.

Posted by ic0n0 on Jan. 29 2001,18:23

I hate poems not because they make you think, but because they don't serve a purpose, and in case your wondering I am fine with the English spelling their way. “American English” isn't the same as “The Queens English” that is used in the rest of world so spelling is different very different. 19th century American grammarians tried to eliminate some of the French influence on the language and make a more clear and understandable language so they cut out most of the silent letters not all of course. To say English in England is proper and American English isn't is silly because we are two different peoples with differing ideas of how to spell words. My problem is with cheap ass shops in the states that use “The Queens English” to try to present themselves as something there not. And Dyslexic is the “proper” way to spell it. This was a rant not a “let’s over think, analyze, take offense at everything he say’s, and blow it out of proportion topic”. Wow I used lots of quotation marks in here.

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Posted by Dark Knight Bob on Jan. 29 2001,18:25

hello NO-ONE uses the queens english anymore in england. we just use english just like you use american :/

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This message has been edited by Dark Knight Bob on January 30, 2001 at 01:26 PM

Posted by askheaves on Jan. 29 2001,19:15

I hate to admit, but I find most poetry painful to read. Mostly, because there is such an overabundance of really bad stuff. What I would like is a book of only good poems. A sort of 'best of' album. Do you think anybody may have created something like this ever?

Oh, jesus. I know you people... i should just put in the </sarcasm> tag right now.

Posted by kuru on Jan. 29 2001,19:25

a.h. - may i suggest some of shel silverstein's adult works... :P

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'dancing is the vertical expression of horizontal desire.'
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Posted by ic0n0 on Jan. 29 2001,21:04

thank you dark knight bob for the correction, but doesn't old school english piss you off?

Posted by Spydir Web on Jan. 29 2001,22:20

quote:
... doesn't old school english piss you off?

Old school english? Man, when did Sir Mix-A-Lot and DJ Grand Flash come into the creation of the English language? (No offense really, I just had to say something. I love old school anything )

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Posted by askheaves on Jan. 29 2001,22:43

quote:
Originally posted by kuru:
a.h. - may i suggest some of shel silverstein's adult works... :P

That shows up in Playboy every once in a while. I'll get to it eventually. Too busy looking at the pictures... i mean, reading the poetry.. i mean, reading the articles... damnit... maybe i should try some hormone medication

Posted by darksol on Jan. 29 2001,23:10

askheaves, do you dislike poems because there are alot of crappy poems and you take those poems to stand for every poem thats out there? its like saying because alot of cars are crappy, all cars are crappy. and really, a poem is just one way of expressing yourself, like art or music. I agree that there is alot of crap out there, but there is also alot of beautiful poems too.

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Posted by solid on Jan. 30 2001,00:30

?! jesus christ man. fuck thinking with poems. if i wanted to think, id start a conversation or grab me a unix bible.

Posted by askheaves on Jan. 30 2001,02:54

darksol, i hate poems because unlike cars, i get opportunities to read bad poetry very often, and i don't get much chance to prepare myself or weed out the bad stuff before hand. With cars, i only drive one on a daily basis, and i love it. there are indicators as to whether a car is worth driving, like, does it have a bumper? or does it have two steel pipes and a 2x4?

I think there is beautiful poetry, but when it's bad... it's downright painful. I prefer to avoid it until I know i'm gonna read a good poem... like Robert Frost, or any other names I recognize.

Posted by kuru on Jan. 30 2001,14:09

you better at least like my poems, babe. :P

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'dancing is the vertical expression of horizontal desire.'
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Posted by hair on Jan. 30 2001,19:34

quote:
Originally posted by ic0n0:
I hate poems not because they make you think, but because they don't serve a purpose

If you mean to say that they serve no true utilitarian purpose, then you are absolutely correct. But I, for one, would hate to live in a world with no thought-provoking, humorous, beautiful, or numinous material.

I pity your inability to revel in the fact that we don't.

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Posted by ic0n0 on Jan. 30 2001,20:27

Ok, I hate poems because 90\% of the ones I have read including the works of Shel Silverstein suck the other 10\% are limericks and are funny. It would be cool if sir micsalot (sp) was involved in the creation of English would it not? I love things that are beautiful and thought provoking but in my opion poems do not poses any of afore mentioned qualities.

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Posted by hair on Jan. 31 2001,02:25

quote:
Originally posted by ic0n0:
Ok, I hate poems because 90\% of the ones I have read suck I love things that are beautiful and thought provoking but in my opion poems do not poses any of afore mentioned qualities.

Ninety-percent of the poems you've read are not to your tastes, and of those poems, none are beautiful or thought-provoking?

It would appear that you haven't read very much poetry then.

Do you find that literature, art, and music, among other things, kindle thought, or are they bland and purposeless as well?

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If the doors of perception were cleansed everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. - William Blake

Posted by DougalMacD on Feb. 05 2001,18:29

quote:
Originally posted by ic0n0:
I don't know if any one else does but I hate poems, I mean I really hate them they are stupid and have no meaning out side of the fact someone tried to put meaning into one and expects you to figure it out.

Think about it. The artsy-fartsy people of this world need an output. If they don't write poetry (which no one has to read) then they may do something else, like "creative dance" or even, God forbid, become a mime artist.

Support poetry - it is the only way to get idiots who think people care about sunsets, hair, flowers etc off the streets.

Queen's English? I like cockney slang. Then nah one naows wha' I'm talkin' abaht. Nah ahm off for a Ruby Murray an then straight dan the boozer.