Forum: Rants
Topic: IRC...
started by: Spydir Web
Posted by Spydir Web on Jan. 10 2001,19:26
I dunno if there's been a rant about IRC, but I've never seen one... but anyway...I'm an UnderNet IRC'er, and if you don't know, UnderNet's been hell lately. Some kid in Romania or something has been packeting UnderNet servers for around a month now, and he's gotten a few other people to join in his DDoS... It's so bad, the ISP that runs W and X (UnderNet's 2 channel bots) have had to shutdown. These packetting attacks aren't just a problem for UnderNet, but all the services these ISP's run... It's so bad, I've had to spend well over half an hour at some times just to get onto a server, to find it's lagged by atleast 3 minutes... right now, as I type this, I still haven't gotten ping replies I sent almost half an hour ago... Now, UnderNet's been pretty unstable for a long time, but 30 minute lag... That's sad. I've also been reading EFNet and a few other networks are getting pretty bad with stablity and whatnot... yeah, that's the good majority of it... damn, I hate packet kiddies... ------------------
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Posted by kai on Jan. 10 2001,21:01
why don't they just block his fucking packets------------------
What if there were no hypothetical questions?
Posted by Sithiee on Jan. 11 2001,00:57
the same reason that dude in hackers didnt just cut off all logins, or any of the many things he could have done: stupidity
Posted by Neophyre on Jan. 11 2001,08:06
so in other words, just coz this fuckin packet k1dd13 is in romania, no one can touch him??
Posted by hyperponic on Jan. 11 2001,09:53
quote:
Originally posted by kai:
why don't they just block his fucking packets
If he's got a number of zombie machines, and can get more, that's much easier said than done.
Posted by Spydir Web on Jan. 11 2001,14:21
just like hyperponic said, it's cuz he's got a whole bunch of machines. Plus it's not just him, after he started a bunch of "l33t h4x0r" groups started up, too. And it's also like Sithiee said, stupidity... The people that run UnderNet... gezz, complete idiots.------------------
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Posted by WillyPete on Jan. 11 2001,14:34
From what I read on /. the guy got access to a fucking ISP's server, think of how many packets you can send on their bandwidth. Not to mention the Undernet admins can't block the isp's addy as it'd kill a huge amount of customers. Pretty sad really. This is when you wish you could remotely fluctuate someone's refresh rate at a mad speed and blow their monitor into their face.
Posted by cr0bar on Jan. 11 2001,15:04
quote:
Originally posted by kai:
why don't they just block his fucking packets
For the ISP to block the packets wouldn't do anything. Once the packet is routed down the ISPs circuit, it's already using up bandwidth. The trick is to get the packets blocked higher up and as close to the source as possible. This is much more difficult.
Posted by whtdrgn_2 on Jan. 11 2001,15:30
You can do a deny all ICMP packets, and other network traffic. He would actually have to log on to IRC to cause trouble then. We implement filtering like that on our routers. ICMP comes in but the get /dev/nulled in a manner of speaking. It can still bring down network if all that is going in is ICMP request, but it is a start.NOTE: for those of you who don't know ICMP is ping. ------------------
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Posted by askheaves on Jan. 11 2001,15:39
I tried to take down efnet with DOS Ping on a 28.8 modem... somehow it didn't seem to take. I'm no l33t H4X0r. 
Posted by ic0n0 on Jan. 28 2001,14:53
efnext the newest irc group is online, it's the child of EFnet and should prove to be more stable. EFnet has been pretty bad lately too, no where near as bad as undernet but when only two servers let you in and there both down or in split mode it can suck.This message has been edited by ic0n0 on January 29, 2001 at 09:54 AM
Posted by StanVanDam on Jan. 29 2001,16:52
lol askheaves...hahahaha
Posted by kuru on Jan. 29 2001,19:11
/me pats askheaves on the shoulder.
i love eye-are-see (or as i sometimes call it, irk). well, at least i used to until there got to be a whole shitload of six year old skript kiddies from aol on there.
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kuru
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