Topic: People not qualified to hold their jobs
started by: Wolfguard
When they ask me what they should do i tell them.
Give me an mp5KS and tickets to corp HQ and ill handle the rest.
They say i dont play well with others. I play fine but they wont run with the ball.
Im done for now.
Quit. If you know your stuff. Just quit. You will either be begged to stay, or you'll get a better job.
I'm on my 5th job since 1997, and everytime, things get just a little bit better. I'm taking over as Director of IT, starting next year, so this current job will probably be my home for awhile.
In I.T. it's so easy to just quit and pick up where you left off somewhere else. Just don't be afraid of it!
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jim
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I just wanted to bitch.
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Past and future pr0n star :)
try: < www.dice.com > < www.computerjobstore.com > < www.monster.com > < www.headhunter.net >
All those are real good!
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jim
< Brews and Cues >
On that note though, I know a guy that had a BSC Hons Pass at Computer Science, but when it came to anything other than turning them on, and shutting them down correctly, he was lost.
Just goes to show what the paper means doesnt it..
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One of the techs I work with found this word. I think it explains most computer user problems:
PEBKAC: Problem exists between keyboard and chair.
[This message has been edited by rig_hater (edited June 07, 2000).]
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quote:
Originally posted by jim:
cool!try: < www.dice.com > < www.computerjobstore.com > < www.monster.com > < www.headhunter.net >
Thanks d00d! I now have 4 interviews next week and they all came from dice.com!
w00t!
Show me the money!All those are real good!
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Past and future pr0n star :)
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Like a flash I'm out-
-Proteun
is that a supressed mp5k?
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quote:
Originally posted by Kayy:
I can't even get a job anywhere near computers because of my lack of qualifications. The fact I can strip down and rebuild almost any system in 30mins means nothing apparently, and the fact that I've been taking computers apart and repairing and servicing them since I was 12 also means nothing these days. If you dont have the paper, you got no job.On that note though, I know a guy that had a BSC Hons Pass at Computer Science, but when it came to anything other than turning them on, and shutting them down correctly, he was lost.
Just goes to show what the paper means doesnt it..
I know your position. When I was in High School I did work for the school since I was 16 and when I moved to a larger city to go to college I applied for a lot of places and since I didn't have certifications they looked down on me. What you need to find is a place that looks on experience that will pay for the certifications. That's what I did. I found a job at a retail store that judges hires on experience and will pay for the certifications for you. There are many places out there that require certifications but that is not the only thing they look for! It's certifications and experience because everyone hates paper techs.
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99.9\% of lam0r's problems:
CTKI
Chair to Keboard Interface
Just being a female in the computer world.
Yes, women do use computers for things other than shopping or email. Hello.
Kisses,
Neneminator
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I was working at a local company as a computer tech. They laid me off two Fridays ago because there wasn't enough work. Well I have been TRYING to find a computer job again for the past week and of course, because I have NO papers I have NO job. I've even tried engineering firms, and I run into they don't want people for summer help or they want someone with more experience. So I'm screwed no matter what I do.....
To top things off, my roommate got a job with John Deere traveling up and down the east coast, with all his expenses paid, and making I think ร/hr. Yes he is book smart, but day-to-day things he struggles with.....
I don't really want to get started on the common sense issue...that's a whole 'nother ball game...
Just had to add my two cents...
HOW DO YOU GET A JOB IF ALL OF THEM REQUIRE EXPERIENCE?
Just apply some common sense to the question.
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99.9\% of lam0r's problems:
CTKI
Chair to Keboard Interface
That doesn't mean a degree can't be useful.
I have a few friend's who are on degree course's over at Sheffield Halam University and one or two are just bumming around and not making the most the resources that are open to them.
From what I have seen, they have a massive library (damn bitch library takes up a building the size of the college I used to go too
), but on the other hand I see other people doing the work, spending a lot of time revising and shit.I think a degree can be a double-edged sword.
After I left college I managed to get set up with a summer job working on the Y2k project for a pretty company. A few weeks later they offered me the job full time.
On one hand I have a job offer, not excellent money (£12k a year, 18ys old, Project Admin.) but some opportunities.
On the other hand I have the chance to go to University (A degree, Women, Drugs and Beer: Not necessarily in that order).
I took the money. I don't regret it, but one thing I do know is this: -
If I was to go to University now, after these past two years working for an IT company, I think I would be able to do so much better then if I had gone straight from School -> College -> University.
I have changed/matured/developed in a way that I don't think would have possible if I had gone to Uni.
Chances are I would be saying the same shit about University if I had turned down this job
Why bother, you ask? Well I was getting ű.25/hour at a local computer shop, once I showed my boss the paper (A+), my next paycheck was @ พ.50/hour! All because I took the time to officially confirm what I already knew.
Taking the tests didn't make me a better technician. It just made me a happier and more well-paid one!
Most people do the study then test and never do the first part. I know of 3 people with an A+ cert that never even owned a computer. This is bad. MCSEs are the same way. Get the books and pass the test. I have been doing NT stuff for 4 years now and im just now going for my MCSE. With 4 years of exp under my belt this is dirt simple. Want to realy blow your mind? Go for your CCNE. Its the Cisco Cert. Network Eng. It will make your head explode, and i hear you have to go to CA to take the test and all they do is fuck with you to see if you can handle it.
Congrats on your A+ and the fact you did it right!
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Past and future pr0n star :)
I take it that BS is Bachelor of Science?
Engineering -> BEng (Bachelor of Engineering)
Science -> BSc (Bachelor of Science)
Oh well, just another example on how America has corrupted things to fit a demented system.
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vegemite rocks!!!
Remember, its all your fault.
BS- means Bach of Science (you were correct) but it means that along with your major courses- for example you are a computer science major so you need to take visual basic and C++ along with some other stuff- they will also make you take many a math (differential equations, calc etc) along with some science (calc based physics and intro to chem etc)in order to get your degree. I know at my Uni here in order to get a BS in any subject the major is combine with a minor (for example you are a comp sci major with a implied maths or physics minor) there isnt really much choice in this option
for a BA however its a little different
BA- means Bach of Arts and in addition to your regular major subjects they dont make you do anything (lol) I know the main difference between like the US and Oz is that in Oz once you are in your program you only take courses in that program hence the Bach of sociology instead of a BA in Soc...all it means is that a person with a BA has taken more sujects then just Soc subjects (for example crim justice, chemistry, psych, english, etc) get my point?
I hope that cleared it up for ya...
btw Ive had vegemite--ugh
But after 6 months in Australia you get used to it....scary
A Bachelor of Science includes all your technical degrees, engineering, all the sciences, comp sci, comp eng, stuff like that.
A Bachelor of Arts includes music, some business, and artsy stuff.
I agree it should be Bachelor of Engineering, but it's screwed...
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