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Topic: Why all these players?
started by: Kolben

Posted by Kolben on May 26 2000,03:18

Why does people still make players for the same stuff? Look at all the mp3-players out there. They're all doing the same stuff. The only difference is the look. They all use the same codecs. I think people should only use the new Media Player for windows (good actually) and winamp!

But what about the unsupported media types, such as realmedia? I say: FUCK THEM!! Your formats suck ass anyway! But if you can make a format better than mp3...ehh?...THEN MAKE A CODEC and PUT IT IN WINAMP.

I'm really getting sick of all these crappy players out there and in here. And they are installed automatically when installing other stuff.

Posted by Kayy on May 26 2000,04:19

I only use three media-players of any kind on my system, and they are the only ones installed, no windows sound crap and cd players on here, I dont even have my soundcard utilities on here.

I only use WinAmp, CDH Media Wizard and MusicMatch Jukebox, WinAmp for my player (of almost every music type there is, including realmedia and windows media), Media Wizard for my audio conversion (conversion from and to almost every type of audio there is, with quality), and MusicMatch Jukebox for ripping my friends CD's to mp3 until I have a cd spare to burn a copy to.

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Posted by simulacrum on May 26 2000,09:44

Yeah, here's a good fuckin' idea. Let's have a monopolistic stronghold on a market, and only have a couple media players available. Oh, other platforms? Screw em. Better yet, let's have Microsoft be the holder of this monopolistic stronghold. You know Kolben, I agree with you that Media Player and winamp are the only two necessary media players, but you're mode of thinking is just dumb.

Posted by j1mmy on May 26 2000,10:13

I prefer < Sonique > because it does a much better job with .mod, .it, .s3m, .xm, .etc. files. At least it did a year or so ago when I started using it. I haven't tried winamp lately.

I use Xing Audiocatalyst for ripping. It can do straight data reads from CDs or actual audio sources. It normalizes, encodes mp3s, lets you set name formats, etc. Lots of good stuff.

Posted by PsyShook on May 26 2000,12:03

Well I think Winamp is awesome. The quality at which it plays just depends on how good your plugins are coded basicly. For CD ripping though I use CDex. It's a freeware ripper and rips just like Xing Audiocatalyst does. You can also pick your MP3 encoder.

Posted by Kayy on May 26 2000,15:26

MusicMatch Jukebox is the mother of all rippers though, with the ability to encode mp3's at up to 360kbps and the ability to record from CD, wav (auto conversion), line in, mic, et al.

It simply cant be beaten, unless you have a p166 with 16m of 72pin EDO ram, in which case you'll have trouble ripping at 1.1x normal playspeed, I however can get 12x normal playspeed on my ripping with it, and it makes my life a hell of a lot easier, since I can rip cd's in a 12th of the time, it means my friends dont have to worry about noticing their cd collection is missing for a few hours when I go on mp3-ripping hunts.

Posted by SyS[UK] on May 26 2000,17:37

I agree with you there Kolben, winamp is l33t and if only other media player finally noticed that they cant get better than it everything would be fine.

I would say Napster would be a good thing to have aswell, if of course you dont have access to that many CD's (CD's are lame) MP3's rule

Posted by incubus on May 26 2000,22:14

I love Sonique, I wouldn't want any other player. The only thing it lacks is CDDb support tho

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Posted by Lizzy on May 26 2000,22:16

I love Winamp, except it has a bug which makes it randomly freeze when a song ends. Sonique is the next best I guess, but it sucks compared to Winamp.

Posted by cr0bar on May 26 2000,22:32

I've never heard of winamp doing that....

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Posted by Lizzy on May 26 2000,22:36

Round up some of the programmers on here and make Detamp!

Posted by incubus on May 26 2000,23:08

Yeah ... why dont we have a bash @ a detnet winamp or sonique skin? you know you want to.

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Posted by The Only on May 26 2000,23:14

quote:
Originally posted by Kayy:
Media Wizard for my audio conversion (conversion from and to almost every type of audio there is, with quality)

can it capture/save realmedia streaming files successfully. Thats the one thing I haven't seen a program to do.

excluding hacks like puting a mike to your speakers ot runing a wire from your lineout to your linein jacks, and recording the input as you play.

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Posted by Kolben on May 27 2000,01:33

Yeah...put up a det.net skin and see how many downloads it gets

Posted by Lizzy on May 27 2000,01:53

Grr, I didn't say a skin. You don't need programmers for skins. Use common sense.

Posted by incubus on May 27 2000,06:14

I know you said programmers. But come on, it's hard to top something like winamp or sonique - they are good at their job. So why not skin it? Seems the logical choice to me. With the freedom of skinning Sonique allows, along with the new "designer label" that is detnet (hehe), I think someone out there can come up with a tasty looking skin. So bleh.

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Posted by Lizzy on May 27 2000,07:26

Because we want advertisers to pay us money for the hundreds of thousands of people who come to detnet to download Detamp. Free shirts for all of us!

Posted by Kuros on May 27 2000,11:37

It can't be that difficult, whoever supplies best Detamp -gets first t-shirt ??

Posted by DuSTman on May 27 2000,11:47

It could be a bit tricky getting hold of the MPEG audio docs from the ISO.

Posted by cr0bar on May 27 2000,13:22

If someone wants to make a detnet winamp skin, I will post it up. You can get most of the "source" fire pics in the t-shirt thread. I have never made a winamp skin, maybe I should try.

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Posted by Lizzy on May 27 2000,16:37

I doubt most of us have even tried to make a Winamp skin. Maybe we can have a 7 page debate about how it should look!

Posted by caseman984 on May 27 2000,18:09

LMAO Lizzy..
About the person asking about grabbing streaming media, I could have SWORN I saw something on download.com before that did that. Anybody know what I'm talkin about?

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Posted by veistran on May 27 2000,18:21

I used to use cedex until I got audio catalyst... audio catalyst is much better than cdex imho. and music match while it does have the abillity to encode at up to 360kbps that feature is only going to be useful if you are one seriously l33t audiophile with one expensive stereo I'm talking seriously high-end.

Posted by graa on May 27 2000,23:17

I find different players suitable for different things. I use Winamp for MP3s, SCPs, NSFs, and SIDs, Modplug Player for MODs, S3Ms, XMs, ITs, etc, and DonutCD (my own creation) to play CDs. I use them for each purpose because of how well they perform each task. And that's what works for me.

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Posted by Dan on May 28 2000,00:07

...

If a few programmers want to get together and write a nice Detnet mp3 player, count me in...

*giggle* Lets do it in VB using Mediaplayer OCX */giggle*

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Posted by Lizzy on May 28 2000,01:44

Me and Incubus have been working on a Detnet skin all night (each of us working on our own). Maybe they won't suck!

Posted by eng_man on May 28 2000,01:55

Alright! A det.net skin, hopefully it'll be good. But sadly I seriously doubt it can compete with some of the other skins out there. What I mean is ... some of the better ones are made by graphic artists. It's their job to draw, and most do it well. Who knows maybe someone well make a fool outta me and make a kick ass skin.

Lizzy: WinAMP freezes on me sometimes too. *sigh*

But I do like it better than Sonique =P

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Posted by incubus on May 28 2000,02:46

No! Sonique Rawks! The skinning potential is better too ... look at the ranges of skins for Sonique as opposed to Winamp. Ah well. I'm still working on this skin. It takes bloody ages!

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Posted by X on May 28 2000,02:48

Heh, Winamp is the best for building totally customizable CD's *from* mp3's you download from Napster. Hell, forget the portable mp3 players out there, all you need is a burner, latest rendition of Winamp, package of Cd-R's, and a connection to some huge mp3 haven such as Napster (yes, some will say it sucks, but chances are if you are looking for it, someone will have it on there). If you actually know what you're doing, and at the rate that songs are encoded to Mp3 and released as is, you can have the album, sounding just as good as the store bought, for the price of a little download time, some decoding, and writing to CD.

Posted by iso9k on May 28 2000,03:48

Look at all of those RTS games out there. They all do the same stuff. Look the same. And They all use the same engines.

Look at all of those Linux Distros out there. They all do the same stuff. Look the same. And They all use the same engines.

Look at all of those FPS games out there. They all do the same stuff. Look the same. And They all use the same engines.

Look at all of those Flight Sim games out there. They all do the same stuff. Look the same. And They all use the same engines.

Look at all of those 3d modeling out there. They all do the same stuff. Look the same.

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Posted by cr0bar on May 28 2000,04:21

x, I don't recall needing winamp to make CD's out of mp3s.....

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Posted by Lizzy on May 28 2000,04:30

iso, do you know the proper syntax for a link? Cause I don't think you do, and maybe you should learn it.

Posted by Kayy on May 28 2000,07:48

quote:
Originally posted by veistran:
and music match while it does have the abillity to encode at up to 360kbps that feature is only going to be useful if you are one seriously l33t audiophile with one expensive stereo I'm talking seriously high-end.

You mean like me, with my stereo, and my need for quality rips when I do a bit of CD copying and building custom CD's from compilations I own. It all makes perfect sense when you know what you need.

As for WinAmp, I never knew it had anything to do with exporting/converting mp3's to wav for cd burning, or for that matter being able to burn them to CD from the program. MusicMatch has that feature, though it isnt too reliable, and so far is the only player/ripper I know that does it. Even still though, I do my own mp3 -> wav -> cd conversions anyway using Media Wizard, much easier.

As for that realmedia thing, I'm not sure if CDH MW supports it, but I'm pretty sure it does/might in the latest release, I only have V4.0, and I'm pretty sure there is another release out. Check out < www.cdhnow.com > and see.

Posted by Cyrino on May 28 2000,10:31

I only use winamp for audio. It's also the easiest for decoding mp3s back into wavs for handy cd making.
I'll have to say that Real Player sucks my nuts. I use Window's Media Player and ocasionally Quick Time for video.
Anything else is unnessary.

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Posted by Kolben on May 28 2000,11:39

Quicktime is for macs, yuck, I'm dreaming of a world where only 2 video formats are available. Should be RAW and COMPRESSED. Look at the wassup-spoofs: We've got some mpgs, some swfs, lots of movs and even some rm's and I also belive I saw one asf and an avi.

Mediaplayer plays the avi, asf and mpg
Realsprayer plays rm
Need a flashplayer for the swf
And the fruityplayer for mov

Why could it not just be one single player with all the codecs? Like mediaplayer...just with ALL of them. Or why couldn't there be just the RAW and the COMPRESSED.

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Posted by matalicmongoose on May 28 2000,11:57

WinAMP will always be the best MP3 player its miles ahead of the rest esecially in tems of plugins, although its skin support my not be as good as sonique and kjofol(the best in skinning terms), also I dissagree that sonique has better sound quality although it may sound clearer it fucks with your ears when listend to throught headfones and it doesn't have DSP plugins or advanced (customizable) visualisations my second fave is Kjofol

Posted by cr0bar on May 28 2000,13:37

Most CD-R programs let you burn straight from mp3 to cdda....why are we still dumping to wav first? ;-P

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Posted by eng_man on May 28 2000,13:50

quote:
Originally posted by incubus:
[b]No! Sonique Rawks! The skinning potential is better too ... look at the ranges of skins for Sonique as opposed to Winamp. Ah well. I'm still working on this skin. It takes bloody ages! :o
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Well I haven't used Sonique since way back when. But there is a WinAMP skin for any taste. There is easily thousands of WinAMP skins, I doubt Sonique boasts that many. I really don't see how Sonique has better potential.

By all means finish the det.net skin. Hopefully it will turn out well. Good Luck with it.

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Posted by veistran on May 28 2000,16:26

quote:
Originally posted by Kayy:
You mean like me, with my stereo, and my need for quality rips when I do a bit of CD copying and building custom CD's from compilations I own. It all makes perfect sense when you know what you need.

Maybe, but when I say I high-end I'm talking tip-top high-end. I'm talking you prefer vinyl over cds because you get the best sound from vinyl.

Posted by iso9k on May 28 2000,18:31

Once again lizzy. You rule. Thanks. Go play with yer MP3s now, hear?

Posted by incubus on May 29 2000,00:15

Okies, I've done most of the main window. I know it's a way off yet, but most of the stuff in the main window are now skinz0red, except the buttons and those little icon things next to the spectroscope.

I made the colours fit in with the site, see?

So, can anyone give me feedback please (hopefully good hehe). Thanks.

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Posted by cr0bar on May 29 2000,01:56

lookin' good. I'm almost done skinning the main window on mine, I'll post it up when I'm done with the volume and balance controls....

I haven't had this much fun "skinning" since I killed that pubesce----

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Posted by Lizzy on May 29 2000,01:58

Ok, I suppose I should post how mine is going, too:

The shot with detnet spirit! The detnet skin (duh), next to the icons for Napster and an illegal copy of Photoshop, while playing a track from the Matrix.

I'm well aware it sux0rz, unlike most newbies, I know what I'm doing sucks, rather than thinking it's the greatest thing ever. Feel free to yell "l4m!!~!" at me, though!

Oh yeah, incase you didn't notice, I haven't messed with the buttons or the little thingy that shows how far along your song is.

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Posted by Kolben on May 29 2000,04:00

Lizzys det.netAMP rox0rs! How many people are making skins now?? Maybe they should open a new category at winamp.com called det.net amps, hehe.

Posted by Dan on May 29 2000,11:15

You all neglected to mention CoolPlayer (www.daansystems.com)

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Posted by simulacrum on May 29 2000,12:57

Lizzy's skin is the schiznit. Keep it goin' Lizzy. Incubus, your skin is pretty good, but you've got some tough competition.

Posted by cr0bar on May 29 2000,16:35

I brought this thread to the main page with my own contribution. Guess I should've said "guys and girls" huh? e-njoy.

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Posted by LinkDJ on May 29 2000,16:53

Hey cr0bar, i love the skin, but a little note, PLEASE include support for the eq when it's minimised (you know?) i hate it when skins don't. I know it's not finished, but this is just a friendly suggestion.

Oh yeah, and somebody start working on a Detnet desktop theme with explosion sounds and bg image and screen saver! When's the Detnet-edition Gateway computer coming out again?
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Posted by Lizzy on May 29 2000,18:27

Do people actually use the MB? I'm going to skin it either way, but I don't think people use it.

Posted by veistran on May 29 2000,18:52

I think he means like this.

Posted by cr0bar on May 29 2000,21:55

Oh. I didn't even know the volume/balance had a windowshade mode. It's actually pretty dumb, considering I never touch the balance and volume up and down can be done with the keyboard or the mouse wheel....

I'll get around to skinning it!

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Posted by veistran on May 29 2000,22:38

Doesn't make it anyless annoying on a skin that doesn't skin it when you like to have it minimized like that. I mean of the skins I have something lik only 20\% have that skinned, it's annoying.

Posted by VinkFloyd on May 30 2000,01:04

I messed around with a skinmaker once. I wanted to make one out of a picture of my at-the-time-girlfriend. With it, I also made a... well... geeky Neo skin.

If you're like me, you'll download any damn skin. My skin directory is 35 megs...

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Posted by Lizzy on May 30 2000,02:24

Time for another screen shot!

horsies eat hay!

This shot taken from scenic My Computer, a lovely tourist destination, this time featuring some horribly old Cypress Hill!

As you may notice, additional portions of the main window have been skinned, including the control buttons, the equalizer button, the playlist button, the shuffle button, and the repeat button. This new version includes everyone's most hated public transportation -- the city bus! The bus makes a guest appearance here as the song position marker!

Coming soon!

Ok, enough of that crap. I'm still gonna change the volume thing, and I know the bus is tacky as hell, but come on, it's funny! Isn't it?

Oh, and the Stop button is pressed, which is why it's lighter than the other buttons. They get lighter when pressed.

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Posted by incubus on May 30 2000,04:37

I didn't think it was a competition

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Posted by cr0bar on May 30 2000,05:30

A little more specific? When its minimized, there's nothing to see...

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Posted by Observer on May 30 2000,10:13

I realize it's lame to reply to a message from a few days ago, so sue me. Graa, no email to contact you directly, but noticed you mention the SID audio format. Is it the same format as used with the 6581 SID chip made popular by the C-64 and C-128? I confess I am a closet C-128 user.

Posted by jim on May 30 2000,10:24

WinAmp can suck it!

Sonique ROCKS!!!

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Posted by incubus on May 30 2000,11:11

Keepin' ya posted ...

Done the buttons now ... they are lovely and 'clicky' hehe. I've started skinning the windowshade mode too, but not happy with how it's going.

You can try it yourself by clicking the link below :
< http://www.ice-breaker.co.uk/binaries/detskin-30-05-00.wsz >

Put it in your winamp skin folder.

So, now I have to do the playlist, etc. I wanna make it a complete skin and do everything though. Takes its time though ... didn't do anything last night because I was too drunk to type ... but that's another story

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Posted by simulacrum on May 30 2000,12:47

Incubus, it's not. Just givin' ya some grief. Yours is turning out really well. I think the buttons could use a little different coloring, though. Perhaps give them a metalic finish, to contrast against the black behind them a bit more.

Lizzy, yours is continuing to whoop it up. Really nice. Only thing I would recommend is losing the bus. Yes, it's funny, but it just doesn't...work. You may also want to consider changing the colors of the balance and volume slider bars.

Posted by cr0bar on May 30 2000,13:37

For what it's worth, I'm in favor of keeping the bus for its value as an "inside joke". Who knows, I may post up the bus rant again!

When your skins are finished (as well as mine) I'm going to start a "memorabilia" section of the site for all the things visitors send me. Such as naked pics of themselves. No joke, I've gotten some!

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Posted by incubus on May 30 2000,16:50

/me thinks the people that sent cr0bar nekkid pics are now shitting bricks ... lol

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Posted by Kolben on May 30 2000,18:20

LOL, incubus! Maybe they should send cr0 some pictures of that too!

Observer. The sid-audio plugin is the same decoder as the chip in the good ol' commodores! Just finished Defender of the Crown recently Had some nostalgic moments there. I still need to handle some of the last levels in Giana Sisters too. I've actually done it the right way and brought my c64 up from the basement. Not with the emulator-crap.

Posted by Lizzy on May 30 2000,18:55

As I said in the post, I'm changing the red and green backgrounds on the volume and balance. As for the bus, I'll probably make two versions, one with the bus, and one without it. I'll let cr0 stick the real one up wherever, and us l33tx0rz can have both.

Posted by xaustinx on May 31 2000,00:36

i cant wait for the nekked Lizzy pic

Posted by incubus on May 31 2000,00:57

lol way to get somewhere ... lol

You call her dumb in the governments thread
then want to see her naked in this one.

You need to see a doctor =)

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Posted by LinkDJ on May 31 2000,13:07

Thanks veistran and cr0bar (see above). Yes, i did mean that, i woulda posted a pic of what i meant if i had caught it earlier.

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Posted by LinkDJ on May 31 2000,13:14

why all these players? A.K.A. The Winamp, Skin, and Winamp Skin Forum

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Posted by xaustinx on Jun. 01 2000,01:21

silly lizzy

quote:
Originally posted by iso9k:
Once again lizzy. You rule. Thanks. Go play with yer MP3s now, hear?

sorry...

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Posted by Lizzy on Jun. 01 2000,01:59

:cry:

Posted by Anztac on Jun. 01 2000,06:59

austin you continue to suck.

Posted by incubus on Jun. 01 2000,07:15

Yeah ... it may have austin powers' 1st name, but none of the style, eh?

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Posted by xaustinx on Jun. 01 2000,19:53

wow im a dick
sorry Lizzy..
i guess that was a little harsh.. in my race to El33t Hax0r i stepped on u waaaay too many times...

Posted by eng_man on Jun. 01 2000,21:46

Dammit, get it right. It's l33t hax0r, not El33t Hax0r.

Somehow you manage to make me having this status seem not so special anymore. *sigh*

To all the people that are working on det.net skins, how's it coming? I know making a skin is time consuming, but keep us fellow det.net'ers updated on your progress.

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Posted by xaustinx on Jun. 02 2000,00:04

okay my birthname is austin. the username austin is taken 99\% of the time so i've given up even trying for it anymore. I use xaustinx cuase 90\% of the time it's avialible. having it say l33t hax0r just means u posted or reply a total of 30+ some odd times.. i did it in 2 days cuase i get bored around 3am.. i realize i've been acting like a prick and thats cuase about 3am i assume no1 takes me serioiusly when im a dick etc.. and just laughs it off.. people are obvisouly offended.. i expected them to strike back.. and instead they just poke fun at my name. That's not an open discussion it's a personal flame war.. i know cr0 wouldnt want that kinda crap on all his BB's so agian IM SORRY LIZZY. and im sorry detnet.

quote:
Originally posted by eng_man:
Dammit, get it right. It's l33t hax0r, not El33t Hax0r.
Somehow you manage to make me having this status seem not so special anymore. *sigh*
To all the people that are working on det.net skins, how's it coming? I know making a skin is time consuming, but keep us fellow det.net'ers updated on your progress.

Posted by Hellraiser on Jun. 02 2000,00:30

Just don't post anything like that again, xaustinx. Thanks.

No hard feelings, at least not from me, but in the future think before you speak!

Enough said.

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Posted by Lizzy on Jun. 02 2000,07:29

I've done jack since I posted the screen shot. Absolutely nothing. God bless America.

Posted by Wolfguard on Jun. 02 2000,07:54

quote:
Originally posted by Lizzy:
I've done jack since I posted the screen shot. Absolutely nothing. God bless America.

Bet that makes jack happy...

Could not resist.

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Posted by incubus on Jun. 02 2000,12:53

Here ya go ...

Yeah, much like Lizzy I've not done much ... but I started doing the playlist last night ... i know, no buttons as yet, just wanted a feel of the colour scheme. Anyway I've been too drunk drowning my sorrows, etc.

Should be coming on soon though ... as usual you can get the work-in-progress skin, it's at the following address ...
< http://www.ice-breaker.co.uk/binaries/detskin-02-06-00.wsz >

Cheers again!

Mike

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Posted by incubus on Jun. 02 2000,17:55

kay - ive not worked on it for a couple of days cos everything femal in my social life just took a nosedive. women. heh.

I've finished the main window (inc. windowshade mode). I've nearly done the playlist window ... after the eq. window the rest should be a doddle. ill try and put a shot up later.

mike

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Posted by LinkDJ on Jun. 04 2000,13:28

Hey, got bored today so i decided to combine the 2 detnet amps i have. Incubus, i Really love the letters you have on your amp, so i saved it to the cr0bar's detamp file. Heres a screenshot:
< Http://linkdj.webjump.com/detnetamp.jpg >

If any of you show any interest in this, and if neither incubus or cr0bar mind, i'll put it up for download.

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Posted by Kolben on Jun. 04 2000,15:12

! Very nice!!

Have you done the equalizer and playlist too?

Posted by TeKno on Jun. 04 2000,16:13

Nice skins everybody.. real nice!

Gripe about Winamp and Rippers:

Winamp: Using this at home, it is definetely the best audio player IMHO, and some of the vis plugins and skins nowadays are spectacular.

What I hate though is the inability for Winamp to skip tracks without removing the 2 second gap between tracks. Sometimes that's okay but if you're like me and want to listen to some Ferry Corsten Live at Innercity, you want to hear the songs fluently mix into each other without going (ohh yeah... fuck lets have a coffee while the next track loads... ohh yeah!).

Just like when you want to burn such to CD you need to use the Disc-At-Once option, which runs great for me. I use Adaptec CD Creator and it runs fine for me for Audio or Data.

I know why Winamp does this. It's because it closes the wav port on your soundcard between tracks. What they SHOULD have is an option that you can tick for continuous play. This would, in effect, not close the wav port. Sure, a few valuable resources would be spent on this operation but sometimes you just need continous play.

Musicmatch: Great program if you want to use it for most CDs, but it likes to chop off the last 0.5 seconds off the tracks that I want to burn off any mixed CDs (Gatecrasher, Ministry of Sound), so you practically skip a beat. So what you say? So maybe I want to keep the quality. MusicMatch doesnt quite get there, but its not the only culprit. I am yet to find a ripper that can do this and do this well. Some leave annoying *BLIPS* between tracks, which is almost worse.

Btw, im running piii500, 128mb ram, sblive 3 so i highly doubt thats the problem (or is it?).

Anyway theres my 2 cents.

Great skins once again guys, keep bringing out your best.

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Posted by LinkDJ on Jun. 04 2000,21:18

Alrighty then, here's the link to download my version of detamp. < Http://linkdj.webjump.com/djdetnet.wsz > Ith hasnt changed since i last did a screen shot. I'm on day 33 of my 30 day trial of Paint Shop Pro, I figure I should make the best of it.

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Posted by BM_Ray on Jun. 04 2000,21:19

INITIATE BAD ILL-TIMED JOKE HERE

Why all these players?
What, you don't like them?
Player Haters!

TERMINATE BAD ILL-TIMED JOKE
BEGIN RANT ABOUT PEOPLE WHO POST STUPID REPLIES TO 3 PAGE LONG THREADS...

Posted by LinkDJ on Jun. 04 2000,21:22

oh yeah, TeKno, what you're looking for (maybe) is the Dudsoft Gapless Output v1.0. Its on < Http://www.winamp.com >

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[This message has been edited by LinkDJ (edited June 04, 2000).]

Posted by LinkDJ on Jun. 05 2000,01:10

not that anyone has downloaded it yet, bu i updated the skin, the link is the same as above, < Http://linkdj.webjump.com/djdetnet.wsz > . I accented the buttons (maybe too much, i'll work on that) and i made the EQ/PL buttons darker. =D

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Posted by eng_man on Jun. 05 2000,05:14

TeKno: I think what you might want to do (or maybe not) is get WinAMP's crossfading plugin. What it does is "blend" songs together so there is no gap between songs. The only problem with it is plugins get delayed slightly (music gets ahead of the plugins). You might want to try it out. Then again, maybe you don't. It's on WinAMP's page if you feel like giving it a whirl.

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Posted by incubus on Jun. 05 2000,05:28

LinkDJ: Yeah, do what you like mate. I'm not usually that good at accepting constructive criticism, eg, when i started this skin it was for cr0bar, but i cant make it unless its what i like if you know what i mean. So the one i give to d.net may be different to the one i end up using, it fits in with my desktop, and all that.

Yeah, feel free, lets see how it turns out

Mike

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Posted by LinkDJ on Jun. 15 2000,02:49

Wow, hey, nobody post here, k?

Posted by eng_man on Jun. 15 2000,20:37

Ok, will do =D

On a side note, what happened to the det.net skins? At one point there was at least 3 different ones under development. I guess interest died off, pity =\

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Posted by LinkDJ on Jun. 26 2000,16:03

Yup

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Posted by The_Hiro on Jun. 26 2000,16:12

Is there some reason you keep reviving this thread? Are you trying to send a subtle hint that you want people to renew their efforts on the detnet winamp skin?