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Topic: objectization
started by: LiNeY

Posted by LiNeY on Jun. 10 2001,18:30

What the hell is this? I walked through downtown for maybe 1 hour today, and there were at least 25 men looking at me as if I was a simple object, for their pleasure. Are men fixed on their view more than on their other senses, or is their brain switched off, or what? I'll admit I am maybe pretty, but I am not the kinda girl to make heads turn, and I do not look like someone cheap and easy to have. I hate men who see women as objects... treat women as objects... and won't let me have my peace. Especially if those men are over 50.

Posted by cr0bar on Jun. 10 2001,18:36

I think there have been threads about this already. Let me be the first to say that it's genetic, and even the most well-intentioned guy will find his eyes wandering. Any guy who claims otherwise is either lying (in order to get into your pants) or gay.

Of course, some guys are worse about this than others. . .same with women too.

Posted by z3r0 c00l on Jun. 10 2001,18:36

Guy's Opinion:
If your cute I'm going to give you a couple extra glanes than i would your everyday citizen. But I wouldn't like gawk or stare. As for 50 year old men, thats just wrong, but oh well.

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Posted by LiNeY on Jun. 10 2001,18:48

I'm not talking about "a couple extra glances". And I don't mind if a guy looks at me. I mind men looking at me as if they are gonna ask "how much are you?" next second. And I hate the fact that it's accepted by society if men regard women as objects, while a woman is usually not allowed to look at a man that way.

Posted by Sithiee on Jun. 10 2001,21:12

shit, i wish women would look at me that way!

and yes, we cant help it. seriously. ive tried, it just doesnt work. its like when you tell a little kid not to do something, theyre gonna do it even more than they woudl have if you hadnt of said anything. so i figure it works better to just not try.

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quote:
Originally posted by Dark Knight Bob:
does anyone not notcie that sithee isnt actually talking out of his ass like a lot of people here

Posted by jiggyfresh on Jun. 10 2001,22:13

hey LiNeY i think im in love with you

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quote:
Originally posted by CatKnight:
aww man i missed one of jiggyfresh's insightful insights :D

Posted by DuSTman on Jun. 10 2001,22:23

I don't stare..
I do look a hell of a lot but I don't really stare. The down-side of being so quick-eyed is that you always look a bit furtive..

Anyway. The class "liney" inherits from the class "woman", which in turn inherits from the class "Locomotive object", which in turn inherits from "object".

Given that they've just seen you they don't know about the particulars of your functionality that are implemented in the less deep classes on your inheritance tree. All they know about you is that you're a woman, and therefore they will interface with you using the methods defined in the woman class.

Compared to such the methods of you that are called by people more familiar with your exact functionality (friends) these interactions with one of your base classes will always seem rudimentary and crude.

This message has been edited by DuSTman on June 11, 2001 at 05:25 PM

Posted by CatKnight on Jun. 10 2001,22:39

weren't you just complaining that guys give you no attention and are only focued on their careers

Posted by PersonGuy on Jun. 11 2001,00:52

Hrm... are you sure there wasn't something on your face? One time there was a bunch of chicks looking at me. It was all good till I realized there was a peperoni on my chin! D'OH!

Oh, and I've always felt like personification came into this. For example: people sometimes say, "Ah... look at my dog. He's so tired... He say, 'HELLO! I'M TIRED!' AHHHHH..." Basically the person is taking their own emotions and placing them in a 3rd person view.

What I mean is, when a man looks at a sexy chick he's thinking, "Ah... look at that chick. She's so sexy... She says, 'HELLO! LET'S BANG-AROUND!' AHHHHH..." Of course we all know that women are complicated emotional beings and wouldn't just leap on us if we throw one good pick-up line at them... but that's how we IMAGINE it.

The same goes for women. LiNeY says that men don't want to be treated as objects, because she's personifying her own complicated feelings onto US! Of course we all know that if women treated us like objects, there would be no motivation to do ANYTHING in life. We'll simply bang-around 24/7 till we die.

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Posted by CatKnight on Jun. 11 2001,11:06

speaking of which i heard on loveline last night this chick and dude were going at it 4-6 times a day, and she was complaining that he couldn't stay hard the whole way through. god damn!

Posted by L33T_h4x0r_d00d on Jun. 11 2001,11:15

quote:
Originally posted by PersonGuy:
It was all good till I realized there was a peperoni on my chin! D'OH!

You know... It might just be me...but Id know if there was a pepperoni on my chin. In virginia we have what we call "mirrors". They reflect your image back to you so you can see if theres pepperoni on your chin.

So was it real pepperoni, or was it someone elses pepperoni.

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Posted by LiNeY on Jun. 11 2001,11:37

quote:
Originally posted by CatKnight:
weren't you just complaining that guys give you no attention and are only focued on their careers

Don't you think there is an ever so slight difference between a guy of 20 who looks at you, thinks you are pretty, and wants to date you... and a man of 50 who stares at you in the street and just wants to bang you?

Posted by CatKnight on Jun. 11 2001,12:13

i withdraw my comment

*eats banana*

Posted by PersonGuy on Jun. 11 2001,13:28

quote:
Originally posted by L33T_h4x0r_d00d:
In virginia we have what we call "mirrors". They reflect your image back to you so you can see if theres pepperoni on your chin.

I KNOW! I used to live there. And in Virgina you also have perpperoni in little 5mm X 5mm X 5mm cubes... so they're much harder to notice when they hang on your face. Besides... I didn't used to look in mirrors (now I just take a daily look). I mean like I didn't avoid them, I just never thought about it. I combed my hair in the shower, so I never really needed 'em. ALSO I am proud to say that through-out my schooling I have NEVER EVER ONCE gone in a school restroom EVER!! So it's not like I would have noticed even if I did look in mirrors.

Posted by LiNeY on Jun. 11 2001,13:38

quote:
Originally posted by CatKnight:
i withdraw my comment

How gentlemanly.

Coming to think about it... I wouldn't mind YOU looking at me, CK.

Posted by L33T_h4x0r_d00d on Jun. 11 2001,14:09

quote:
Originally posted by PersonGuy:
I KNOW! I used to live there. And in Virgina you also have perpperoni in little 5mm X 5mm X 5mm cubes... so they're much harder to notice when they hang on your face. Besides... I didn't used to look in mirrors (now I just take a daily look). I mean like I didn't avoid them, I just never thought about it. I combed my hair in the shower, so I never really needed 'em. ALSO I am proud to say that through-out my schooling I have NEVER EVER ONCE gone in a school restroom EVER!! So it's not like I would have noticed even if I did look in mirrors.

Ok well in virginia we also have what we call "Nerves". They relay vital information to our brains and make us aware of our surroundings, temperature, hunger, and most importantly.. surface tension of our skin. When said pepperoni became attached to face the surface tension would have been relayed and made us aware of the pepperoni(it may have also triggered the temperature and wet feelings depending on temperature and slimy factor.)

Seriously how did you not know there was a pepperoni on your chin? Was it a whole pepperoini or just part of one?

Oh yea Liney.. That sucks. You need an ATM stick.

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Posted by LiNeY on Jun. 11 2001,14:37

What is an ATM stick?

Posted by L33T_h4x0r_d00d on Jun. 11 2001,14:47

quote:
Originally posted by LiNeY:
What is an ATM stick?

Its a big stick you hit the person with until money comes out. The longer you hit them usually the larger the bills start dropping.

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Radio Dj: so now that your not on saturday night live what are you gonna do?

Jim Bruer: I dont know.. fight mexicans or something.

FUHAOHB2IPDEFCIPUDQNFQFYLOEGOGB

Posted by LiNeY on Jun. 11 2001,15:04

Sounds practical, that ATM stick thingie.

Posted by LiNeY on Jun. 11 2001,18:58

demonk, I used to be after men for their intelligence. Then, one very sad day, I had to realize that they hardly have any. So I had to substitute intelligence by money.

Posted by Rhydant on Jun. 11 2001,20:38

hrm...
personally, i think liney is ugly. that one picture in some other thread was just... not good.
im sorry, i just had to say that.
i hate it when people (that i think) are ugly complain that people of the opposite sex look at them all of the time.
the guys that looked at you when you were down town were probobly staring in discust.

errr... sorry. im just being straight forward.

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Posted by Sithiee on Jun. 11 2001,23:11

damn. tellin it how it is. do you walk up to retarded people and call them retarded? do you point at old people and yell "WRINKLY!!!!!!"??? little white lies = ok.

Posted by solid on Jun. 12 2001,03:04

/me rolls all over the non existant cyber floor laughing

oh my.. just visiting and reading has its own benefits..

Posted by Rhydant on Jun. 12 2001,03:55

too many god damn white lies=not ok.

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Posted by demonk on Jun. 12 2001,05:28

Typical woman. Just after guys for their money

Posted by LiNeY on Jun. 12 2001,06:24

Rhydant - thanks. At least YOU wouldn't stare at me.

As to whether I look good or not... I can't judge that by myself (yeah you ARE right the pic was really not very good). Opinions welcome. And you are damn right again: little white lies = not OK.

Posted by pengu1nn on Jun. 12 2001,18:16

i try not to judge looks based on pictures, i have never looked half way descent in a picture. i hate pictures. i would "disappear" when it came time for school pictures. "i just hate'em, i hate'em, i hate'em" (the waterboy was on last night)

back to what i was doing

"nothing"

Posted by L33T_h4x0r_d00d on Jun. 12 2001,18:32

quote:
Originally posted by Rhydant:
that one picture in some other thread was just... not good.

Um...where? What thread?

Oh OBSEEERRRRVVEERRRR..yoo hoo whered ya go?

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Radio Dj: so now that your not on saturday night live what are you gonna do?

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Posted by LiNeY on Jun. 12 2001,19:19

L33T_h4x0r_d00d, it's a thread somewhere in the sex forum... called "what's wrong with the guys", if I remember correctly.

Posted by Observer on Jun. 12 2001,19:25

Here's her < post > (That link goes right to it with no scrolling to find it.), and her pic:

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Posted by LiNeY on Jun. 12 2001,19:50

Alright, that's me, guys.

The pic is about a year old, I've changed a bit since, but I don't have a new one at hand. And to make one excuse - I hate being photographed, so I usually look terrible in pics, this was the best that I could find.

Posted by Wolfguard on Jun. 13 2001,09:59

quote:
Originally posted by Sithiee:
damn. tellin it how it is. do you walk up to retarded people and call them retarded? do you point at old people and yell "WRINKLY...

I don't really think I need to respond to those questions.

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Posted by Wolfguard on Jun. 13 2001,10:03

quote:
Originally posted by LiNeY:
Alright, that's me, guys.
The pic is about a year old, I've changed a bit since, ...

Well, it does not show anything that would make me gawk at you. No extra nose or 3rd eye. If you had a tail i would be checking out your ass but...hey, its a tail!

Only thing i ponder with Red heads is do the cuffs and collar match.

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Posted by L33T_h4x0r_d00d on Jun. 13 2001,10:21

quote:
Originally posted by Wolfguard:

Only thing i ponder with Red heads is do the cuffs and collar match.

Are you retarded? You ask them "Do the curtains match the carpet?"

Liney, I still think you should have gone naked...or you could have done the Krylon dress...those are always very nice.

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Posted by LiNeY on Jun. 13 2001,11:54

quote:
Originally posted by Wolfguard:
Well, it does not show anything that would make me gawk at you.

Dammit, that is JUST my point. So why can't people just leave me alone and in peace while I walk down the street? But I guess I'll never get a sensible answer to this question.

Posted by Vigilante on Jun. 13 2001,11:56

Well, I'd gawk at you.

I don't get out much, though.

Posted by CatKnight on Jun. 13 2001,14:32

eh when walking down the street in alexandria i tend to gawk at all the ladies that are even somewhat cute. just because where i live there are only old people, and i just came back from school where hundreds of sorostitutes were sunbathing topless out my window...kind of a withdrawal-shock type situation

Posted by L33T_h4x0r_d00d on Jun. 13 2001,16:11

quote:
Originally posted by CatKnight:
when walking down the street in alexandria i tend to gawk at all the ladies that are even somewhat cute

All you needed to say was "when walking down the street in alexandria" then heavenly music starts playing and wine falls from the sky to cure all the ails of the world.

There are 7 modeling agencies in alexandria. I used to go sit at the fountains in old town and just watch the wonderful scenery with my lunch.

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Radio Dj: so now that your not on saturday night live what are you gonna do?

Jim Bruer: I dont know.. fight mexicans or something.

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Posted by Sithiee on Jun. 13 2001,16:36

oh my lord. i was at kings dominion today...why is it that at theme parks every nasty chick thinks theyre hot?? half the girls who wear clothes like they are should never have come back into the light. oh well. it was ok cause i rode the avalanche with an incredibly hot chick friend of mine....sorry about this missplaced rant...

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quote:
Originally posted by Dark Knight Bob:
does anyone not notcie that sithee isnt actually talking out of his ass like a lot of people here

Posted by CatKnight on Jun. 14 2001,12:09

ya i know l33t i'd love to live there that place is awesome. the houses are like 1 million bucks for a 200 year old tiny town house though. i go to lunch in old town 2-3 times a week cuz i work just across the river. do you still live/work in alexandria?

Posted by kuru on Jun. 14 2001,21:37

men are men. they look, they stare, they drool. one look is nice. two is a compliment. staring is flattery.

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Posted by Spydir on Jun. 15 2001,01:05

that's what you think kuru. Shit, last time a man was staring at me I got pissed the fuck off... Not that I got anything against gays, just don't go hittin' on me...

anyways... I don't usually stare at girls, atleast I try not to. I think it's kinna rude... Then again, I have this habbit of that good ol' double-take when I'm at the mall or something.

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Posted by LiNeY on Jun. 15 2001,14:46

I know, kuru... they are men... I'll have to take it as flattery... *sigh*

Today's flattery: group of 3 men, over 50, staring at me passing by, yelling "hey, ya, young lady... we don't bite!" I'll take it as flattery...

Posted by Spydir on Jun. 15 2001,16:18

You should just walk up to them and say something along the lines of "See this? YOU CAN'T HAVE IT YOU OLD FUCKING FARTLICK!" or just tease 'em... if they're that interested, you gotta torture'em.

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Posted by DuSTman on Jun. 16 2001,00:10

You should have just laughed and said "Yeah, you do."