Forum: Rants Topic: driver's license test... started by: LiNeY Posted by Vigilante on May 31 2001,18:56
Wow. My written test was pathetically easy... but the road test took me three shots. Heh heh.
Posted by LiNeY on May 31 2001,19:14
quote: statistically proven: women are more careful drivers than men. Posted by Vigilante on May 31 2001,19:56
Not in America, baby.
Posted by kuru on May 31 2001,20:41
actually that is true. women have fewer car accidents, are less prone to tail gating and road grage, are less likely to speed, and use seatbelts more frequently than their male counterparts.------------------ Posted by Spydir on May 31 2001,21:42
statistics show that 90\% of statistics are wrong...------------------ Posted by askheaves on May 31 2001,21:59
quote: All true, but their also more likely to roll their SUV while talking on the phone, changing the radio station, and trying to find their lipstick on the passenger side floor. Posted by damien_s_lucifer on May 31 2001,22:19
quote: Move to the US, get your license here, and then move back home. Our driver's test is patheticly easy & your license will be valid in countries around the world Posted by Dark Knight Bob on May 31 2001,23:00
ok time for someone who knows what hes talking about. women are statistically safer drivers cos they cause the men drivers to crash by cutting them up and driving dangerously and they dont even realise it. now when you come to accept that men own the road then it'll become safer.and dont go crying about how hard it is. you try taking a driving test in england. its like one of the hardest driving tests in the world oh and kuru anyone who doesnt wear a seatbelt is just a twat. you come to the uk and not wear a seatbelt and you will be looked upon as a twat. just cos americans think its alright not to wear them is no argument for saying women are safer drivers This message has been edited by Dark Knight Bob on June 01, 2001 at 06:03 PM Posted by Sithiee on Jun. 01 2001,00:21
women are not safer drivers. they are not able to make judgement calls as well as men. for a long time, i thought that was bullshit, because my mom is actually a really good driver. i thought my sister was just a fluke. but no. i would estimate, that about 75\% to 85\% of the time when i see someone do something really really stupid, and i manage to see the sex of the person driving the car, its a woman. putting on a seatbelt, driving the speed limit, not tail gating, are not gonna help if you cant make a good judgement call. i also notice women not paying attention to road signs more often than men. yknow, like that great one "STOP", or "No Turn On Red". why are these signs here? for your safety! when it says stop, its likely because you dont have right of way. stop is not "slow down by 5 miles an hour, glance, and go anyway". no turn on red. this is here, because its hard to see enough of the lane coming to make a good judgement on whether or not you can make it. that means DONT TURN ON RED! heres a good one. when theres a mack truck turning left in the oncoming traffic, and you want to make a u turn there. do you a) wait for the semi to go, so you can see if cars or coming, or b) go and hope no one hits your brother in the passenger seat? hmm, well i almost got hit, i guess the answer is b? or maybe when youre coming to a 4 way stop, do you just go on through, nearly hitting the car with right of way, because your more important because your driving an suv and you have to get the kiddies to soccer practice? look. it may seem sexist, and it may seem unfair, but whatever. women are not as good drivers as men, for whatever reason. and just because its decided that someone is the cause of the accident, doesnt mean the other person didnt have plenty to do with it.just learn to live with it. Posted by j0eSmith on Jun. 01 2001,01:10
Learn to live with it.. right, that'll happen.Anyways, I tend to agree. Just about everytime I get stuck behind someone doing 95 on a 100 road (which really means 110 minimum, thank you 10km/h buffer), it is 90\% (NO exaggeration!) a female driver whos scared to drive too fast with the road a little wet from a recent rain. Don't get me wrong, I know enough to slow down on a very wet road. But I mean damp road.. or sometimes there absolutly no reason for it. I agree with Sithee, they (women) just do seem to make bad judgement calls. Like they're too defensive, not aggressive enough. Or aggressive at the wrong times. Oh yeah, I passed my written and drivers the first time on each. ------------------ Posted by Frosty on Jun. 01 2001,02:16
quote: Remarkably accurate...FOR SOMEONE WHO DRIVES ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THE ROAD. :-) Posted by j0eSmith on Jun. 01 2001,02:20
^ Why do you think their tests are so hard? ------------------ Posted by LiNeY on Jun. 01 2001,05:11
I had my driver's license test this morning and I failed. Now I don't care much about that - I mean I knew I'd fail it and it's not THAT bad. What really sucks is that it was such a stupid thing why I failed "not enough space between you and the parking cars", and that I have to wait 2 weeks before I can try again. Grrrrr....I want to have that damn license. This message has been edited by LiNeY on June 01, 2001 at 12:12 PM Posted by L33T_h4x0r_d00d on Jun. 01 2001,05:28
I already have my car license, IHRA, SCCA, and tomorrow i have to go get my Motorcycle license. I have to do the little obstacle course. And it rained the past 3 weekends so the bastard at the dmv wouldnt let me do it. So im gonna get it this weekend, rain or shine. If that fucker gives me any shit ill just burn out on his ass. Fat fucker. Thatll learn him.------------------ Jim Bruer: I dont know.. fight mexicans or something. FUHAOHB2IPDEFCIPUDQNFQFYLOEGOGB Posted by jiggyfresh on Jun. 01 2001,05:32
yeah. girls cant drive ------------------ quote: Posted by Rhydant on Jun. 01 2001,05:53
That drivers test is EASY! my sister failed it 2 times, though.i only missed 2 questions. who knew that your tires had to be 16 inches from the curb and not 18? whats the difference? and you have to go 15 mph in a blind alley. fuck that. i pull 25! now i go for the REAL test in a week. oh, and my suggestion: dont drive on the wrong side of the road. its an auto-fail. ------------------ Posted by LiNeY on Jun. 01 2001,08:06
Now just to make something clear: I failed my road test. Not the theoretical one (that was way too easy to fail). And I failed it because I didn't slow down enough when I was passing some parking cars very closely. I don't think you can say that women are worse drivers than men. At least, not all of them. That story about "women driving too slowly" etc. is plain bullshit. I, for instance, am pretty sure to get tickets for speeding as soon as I'm out on the road without a driving teacher by my side... Posted by Observer on Jun. 01 2001,13:35
If women are so much poorer drivers than men, then why are their insurance rates lower?------------------ Posted by jiggyfresh on Jun. 01 2001,13:40
so a few months ago im on the road and im stoping for a light thats turning red and BAMM i get hit from behind and thrown through the intersection. now what happened is that 2 cars back this lady hit the car behind me (and totaled it) and then that car hit me. now the lady all the way in the back got charged with the accident and 2 days ago she didnt show up for her court date but me and the other witness did. her insurance paid to get my car fixed and everything and even had me in a rental for 2 or 3 weeks..but the point of the story is that i just remembered i need an oil change------------------ quote: Posted by L33T_h4x0r_d00d on Jun. 01 2001,14:21
Ive been rearended by women putting their makeup on 3 times in the last year. And the only guy that hit me was a doctor in a jag who was really drunk. But that was like at 11:45 on a saturday night, not commuting TO GODDAMN WORK. Goddamn I must really be in the wrong place at the wrong time. But that says something for ya... guys have to get drunk to level the playing field.------------------ Jim Bruer: I dont know.. fight mexicans or something. FUHAOHB2IPDEFCIPUDQNFQFYLOEGOGB Posted by Sithiee on Jun. 01 2001,14:28
women are "safer" drivers.men have better reaction times and judgement calls. a lot of the time, (this is a theory in progress here), i think that men probably end up having to counteract the woman's fuckup. i think that when a woman makes a bad judgement call, a lot of the time, (since like 50\% of drivers are men, right?) there could be a man there to avoid the situation or whatever. like when i was driving down a two lane road, and this woman in her suv talkin on her cell started merging into me (in my relativly small corolla) i had the reaction time to honk before she made it, as well as move over to the right more. the reason insurance for women is lower is the exact things that have been mentioned. statistically they follow the speed limit more, they drive slower, and they probably drive a little bit more sane (read: not fun). if i were running an insurance company, the rates would be higher for women, because although they follow the rules more, in a critical situation, i would trust a man to do the right thing. id bet a lot of these reasons relates to the women in combat thing. again, this is still my theoy in progress. Posted by melk0r on Jun. 01 2001,15:55
quote: hahahahahahahah
Posted by DeadAnztac on Jun. 01 2001,16:24
I thought it was a proven fact that women had fast reflexes and reaction times.. That's why they make good pilots, right? Just trying to add some objective information into the argument.
Posted by Greasemonk on Jun. 01 2001,19:43
quote: Not where I live. I see insane chics constantly driving crazy in either Minivans or anything VW. Everytime I see someone pulled over around here its a chic, and most of the time they are driving a minivan. ------------------ Posted by Dark Knight Bob on Jun. 01 2001,19:43
hmm i drive on the wrong side of the road? well that mabye but i also live in one of the most dangerous places to drive in the uk. theres a minor accident minimum every 1-2months. major accident guarenteed every 6 months and i've lived here my whole life so i know. so i've seen everything from a car turning over another hilst going UP a hill to a drainage cleaning truck hitting the roundabout (oops sorry forgot you dont have those do you in the usa) and going over the top and landing in the lower underpass. so i know what i'm talking about i'm talking from experiencedont believe me?
------------------ This message has been edited by Dark Knight Bob on June 02, 2001 at 02:45 PM Posted by jrh1406 on Jun. 01 2001,20:00
Only one minor accident every one or two months? that sounds pretty safe to me, Up here in the winter there's maybe 1 or 2 every couple of hours, during the summer, maybe one or two a day on the major highways. Back home in CT it was just as bad if not worse(although new england drivers are fuckin nutty, i should know, it's where i learned)
Posted by Jynx on Jun. 01 2001,20:09
quote: Then your insurance company would fail. Just out of curiosity, why do you think those insurance rates are lower for women? It's not about some women's movement--it's because any insurance company will tell you that a young, single guy is much more likely to be at fault than a girl. Period. Remember, insurance companies care about nothing except making money, so those rates you pay are directly correlated to the insurance company's real world experience. Also, remember this: just 'cause you were rear-ended by a woman, and so was your friend, or whatever, means NOTHING. ------------------ I used to be a kleptomaniac, but then I took something for it. Posted by CatKnight on Jun. 01 2001,20:35
heh good job jynx i was about to say that
Posted by Dark Knight Bob on Jun. 01 2001,20:49
------------------ Posted by askheaves on Jun. 02 2001,01:21
If you need to generalize:There are two major components to driving. Typically, men are in better control of their vehicle. However, due to their aggressive nature, they make some bad decisions. Women are typically in less control of their vehicle, but make pretty decent decisions... like, driving slower, seatbelts, yada yada yada. Except the dippy broads who don't take driving seriously. However, introduce cell phones into the equation, and everybody is a horrible driver. I drive home from work each day and see nearly everybody yacking away. It's disgusting and they drive horrible. I come within inches of going road rage on them, but I practice restraint... because they probably wouldn't even notice. Posted by Spydir on Jun. 02 2001,01:48
I hate people who talk on cell phones, anywhere. Damned things piss me off. I more then understand if your car stalled and you need a towtruck, or you're calling 911 or something, but most other situations it can wait, or you're to fucking stupid to have remembered it.------------------ Posted by Sithiee on Jun. 02 2001,03:02
wah wah wah women are just as good as men. NO. whenever its a men vs women subject, CK's opinion is automatically null and void, because his lips are so far up their asses, theyre starting to get burned by stomach acid.a whole lot of these "intelligent" companies also give discounts to students who get good grades. does that make me less likely to speed? nope, i already got one ticket for it. they gave a discount for having above 90\% in my grade from driving school. did that stop me from getting in fender benders? nope, i was in 2 in a 10 second time period, both my fault. does driving slower stop you from getting into accidents? nope. does driving with the seat belt on stop you from getting into accidents? i guess not, i still got into them. does having the ability to make better judgements stop you from doing crazy things? no. does it help you prevent accidents? YES. in the year and a half my sister was driving on her own, she got into 3 accidents, and totalled one car. she proceeded to get into more accidents with the new car that the insurance company bought. things that should get discounts on insurance: things that should not get discounts on driving insurance: if I ran a car insurance company, it would be run intelligently. you would get discounts based on things having to do with driving and/or protecting your car (i.e. do you have a garage?) everyone, no matter how costly it was, would have to have a road test. this would insure that good drivers would have better rates than people who cant make good decisions. also. of all the majorly(like where you honk a whole lot, yell, and are tempted to follow them and beat them up for being so dumb) retarded things i have ever seen other people do in their cars, only one has been a man. and i have seen a LOT of really dumb things. also, about the england thing, isnt the driving test a lot more rigorous? Posted by CatKnight on Jun. 02 2001,19:43
does anyone else find it funny how sithiee keeps using examples of how he crashed his own car, etc, to try to prove that statistics are inaccurate?
Posted by Dark Knight Bob on Jun. 02 2001,20:14
does anyone not notcie that sithee isnt actually talking out of his ass like a lot of people here------------------ Posted by j0eSmith on Jun. 02 2001,21:29
BURN!Good one, DKB ------------------ Posted by CatKnight on Jun. 02 2001,21:59
um, what?
Posted by Sithiee on Jun. 02 2001,22:07
hmm.... total damage in monetary amounts caused by my 3 accidents = Ũ.thats 贶 less than my sister caused the first time she took the car out. i dont know how much the others cost, but thats what my parents told me to make me feel better about getting in the accidents. ------------------ quote: This message has been edited by Sithiee on June 03, 2001 at 05:10 PM Posted by CatKnight on Jun. 02 2001,23:45
hmm...explain to me how you justify laws of mathematics to be wrong based on your individual case? and don't try to say we aren't talking about math here blah blah blah, because that's exactly what we are talking about. just because you have only witnessed two cases, which just coincidentally happen to prove your point, doesn't mean there are, oh say, 100 million other cases which prove you wrong?
Posted by Sithiee on Jun. 03 2001,00:36
just because you can find some statistics (which you have yet to do) that prove your point doesnt make them right. lets now also consider there are many people who have noticed this fact. now lets consider there are more things involved with driving safely than following the rules and not getting into accidents. just because youre car did not physically cause an accident, doesnt mean your not at fault.my point is this: you cannot prove for sure either way whether women are just as good drivers as men are or not. it cannot be done unless you record every driver's entire driving career and then find some way to analyze it all. however, you can make educated guesses. the guesses can be based on previously held knowledge, or fact based assumptions, as well as unbiased observations. through my observations, my knowledge, and my thought out assumptions, the conclusion i (as well as it appears many others) have come to, is that women are not as good drivers as men. what do i propose we do about this? i propose more strict standards, so that only good drivers can drive. i propose retestings every year. if this were ever implemented, numbers based on who passed these tests, and how many consecutive years, that might prove definitively who is right. but this would also take care of all bad drivers, men and women, which i think would be a great idea. until then, or other imformation is brought into the light, i will continue to hold this opinion, based upon my observations. if you think thats a bad thing, well then i suggest you take a long walk off a short cliff. ------------------ quote: Posted by CatKnight on Jun. 03 2001,00:48
quote: statistics aren't right or wrong. they are just data. and i don't need to search the net and find them for you, just look at your insurance bill (you may have to get daddy to show them to you since you obviously don't pay them). the reason why guys under 21 pay way more then women under 21 is because statistically, guys under 21 cause more monitary damage.
quote: that is a moot point because if no accident was caused then who cares.
quote: um hello thats what the insurance companies and the police have been doing for DECADES. and if you want tougher driving tests, which you would undoubtably fail yourself, move to the UK with dark knight bob. i'm sure he'd love your company. ------------------------ This message has been edited by CatKnight on June 03, 2001 at 07:50 PM Posted by Sithiee on Jun. 03 2001,01:15
quote:
quote: someone driving their car is turning right. they pull out and dont have nearly enough room inbetween their car and the one coming down the road. the one coming down the road swerves to avoid the idiotic dirver's car, and ends up hitting a light post. the accident is caused. the driver of the turning car does not have any damage. are they still at fault? yes. you lose.
quote: i was not exadgeratting when i said analyze EVERYONE's ENTIRE driving career. that means everyone, not everyone whos gotten in an accident. again, insurance companies dont matter, and the police have yet to analyze everyone's entire driving career. and no, they have not been doing this. just because there was no accident, does not mean that it doesnt matter, and it doesnt mean that there was a problem. if someone is speeding, they still get a ticket, even if no accident is caused. but wait! it doesnt matter, right ck? i mean, there was no accident, so it doesnt matter!! oh, wait, im afraid youre wrong. until EVERYONE (and i mean by this everyone who has ever operated a motor vehicle) has their ENTIRE (by this i mean all the time they have ever been on the road with their car) driving career's analyzed, you cannot say for sure either way. you lose ck, yet again.
quote: first off, i doubt i would fail them, i am on my way to becoming a good driver, the accidents i was involved in, were a combination of lack of experience, and lack of teaching. i was never taught how to park or back out of a parking space. i wasnt taught any lane changing. basically, all i was taught was "this is how you go forward, this is how you go backward" i had some road time, but it was mostly sunday mornings, with no real traffic. my driving school sucked, and im slowly making up for it by teaching myself. i have pretty much mastered all forms of parking, except im still learning parallel parking. im forming the habits that are required of a good driver, even though im having to teach them to myself. and maybe i couldnt pass them. but yknow what? if i couldnt, then i wouldnt want me on the road either. driving is not a right, its a privelege. here in the usa, its a privelege thats taken very much for granted, and that is a problem. we do barely anything about drunk driving, but we concentrate on things like bad parking. i think that the state of the driving standards in our country are shameful, and i wish there was something i could do about it. but unfortunately, people in america are too lazy to learn how to drive right, and because of that, no one is ever gonna raise the standards. if people would learn to drive right, then we could have no speed limits, and whatnot like in germany...but thats a whole different rant. Posted by kuru on Jun. 03 2001,05:05
and i thought there was hope that the younger generation of males would be less blindly chauvanistic than their misinformed predecessors.turns out, there isn't. we've got guys like sithiee who sit around and do nothing but try to find evidence as to why women aren't worth as much as men. how pathetic that his self worth as a male is based entirely on his pursuit of proving a lack of worth in women. and he says men have better judgement. 'i'd trust a man to make the right judgement call.' and then he blasts anybody who can see that women are quite a bit more capable than he believes they are and says they 'just have their noses up the women's ass'. grow up sithiee. your penis doesn't make you better than me. it doesn't mean you have better judgement than me, and it sure as fuck doesn't mean your mind is better than mine. ------------------ Posted by Sithiee on Jun. 03 2001,05:25
grow up?? why the fuck dont you? did you consider the idea that maybe im right? i sure as hell thought like you did for a long ass time. and throught nothing but OBSERVING PEOPLE DRIVING did i come to my conclusions. your too full of yourself to accept the idea that maybe women are not as good drivers. i used to think that it didnt make a difference also. remember that. when you call me chauvenist. i dont say "women are inferior, period." i say "women are inferior drivers." those are different. i dont say "women are dumb, they shouldnt be allowed to vote, they shouldnt be allowed to leave the house, blah blah blah" i didnt even say they shouldnt be able to drive. you however, assumed that all i do is try to find evidence for why men are better than women. nope, i do have a life thank you. you say i find self worth in this? what the fuck are you smoking??? and wrong. i flamed ck. all he ever does is stick is nose up womens asses. look at what he writes with an UNBIASED OPINION. this was something i noticed before i started to dislike him. i didnt say that about jynx, i said it about ck. oh oh, im afraid youre quite mistaken about me again. when it comes to growing up, i think you have some to do, because if you cant make some objective observations, then your opinion doesnt matter.ill state again, my conclusions were drawn from watching people drive, and were slightly biased towards the idea that women were just as good drivers as men. then i started paying attention to what happened on the road, and from what i observed, i changed my opinion. kuru's feminist opinion = null and void. Posted by Greasemonk on Jun. 03 2001,11:31
You all are forgetting one important thing.... Cellphones...I wonder when insurance companies will start charging extra if they find out you own one...------------------ Posted by Observer on Jun. 03 2001,13:21
I don't think we are forgetting it. I think some of us are trying to avoid it since we've had the discussion a few times before.My personal opinion on that matter is that I'm all for the hands-free stuff and against people holding the phone up to their face while using them. Unfortunately not everyone can handle even that, so I guess we'll have to watch as things develop. ------------------ Posted by CatKnight on Jun. 03 2001,13:29
quote: oh please tell me, what is my point then?
quote: this might just be wild and crazy conjecture, but i'm guessing that a 40 year old who is a member of AA and does community service is less likely to drink and drive and cause an accident compared to someone who just turned 21 and bought a brand new red turbocharged mustang. (see sig)
quote: i think that would constitute as an accident, as you said. (see sig)
quote: um, what are you talking about? (see sig)
quote: i think the reason why they have no speed limits is because they have far fewer drivers, the roads are not crowded, there are long stretches of flat straight road, and the people who do drive are probably a lot more experienced. here in the US, we have places like the capitol beltway which are constantly packed with inexperienced drivers going relatively fast. ------------------ Posted by CatKnight on Jun. 03 2001,14:00
oh and sithiee, what makes you think you are smarter and more experienced then the rest of the world, including insurance companies, who have spent millions of dollars on research?
quote: i still can't figure out what was going through your dillusional mind when you typed that. ------------------ Posted by Althornin on Jun. 03 2001,14:15
Statistically, women are found to be "at fault" less often under the following conditions:Under 25 Its because guys are more likely to experience fits of machismo and drive like a fucking maniac to impress thier friends, or see if they can do 1500 down a street they've never been down before and suddenly it has a sharp turn and you do a 480 and bounce into a barbed-wire fence trying not to ram into a bunch of trees. Personally, most women i know drive piss poor - they do not pay attention to the road as well as the guys i know, they dont react veyr fast, and they have crappy judgement on what to do. But they dont drive like fucking assholes just for the sheer fun of it like young single "im gonna live forever" guys do. Posted by CatKnight on Jun. 03 2001,14:57
that's what i've been trying to say, but sithiee seems to think that women shouldn't be allowed to drive and insurance companies are stupid because they charge men higher or something.------------------ Posted by jim on Jun. 03 2001,15:29
Ok, I read the majority of this thread, but it looks like Sith and CK are flaming, so I skipped that part.About the insurance thing. Keep in mind (that I can't prove this ) that there are a hell of a lot more men on the road than women. The majority of the time you see a man and a woman in a car, the man is driving. So yes, insurance companies stand to make more money off of men. The rates are lower for women, not because they are better drivers, but because they don't drive as much. Like Sith, from what I've seen, women are for worse drivers than men. Speeding, merging at the last possible moment blindly, stopping at a yield sign without ever even looking to see if the road was clear before stopping, putting on make-up, eating in the car, gossiping on cell phones... This list is endless. I've also noticed that Black People are less likely to move over a lane to let someone who is going faster pass by on the freeway. And that Orientals drive 40MPH on the freeway, and 70MPH in the city. Old people drive slower than young people. Men tailgate more often than women... I've seen no proof of anyone's point. So my opinions come from personal experience. [EDIT] I just read over a study that says that men drive on average 80\% more miles than women do per year. [/EDIT] ------------------ This message has been edited by jim on June 04, 2001 at 10:38 AM Posted by Dark Knight Bob on Jun. 03 2001,21:17
CatKnight all that shit about just the maths is a little amateurish for a guy who does physics you seem to have forgotten about the fact that money still plays a big role in the argument. You seem to have assumed that insurance people are honest folk who dont try abusing scientific data to get more money off people.------------------ Posted by Sithiee on Jun. 03 2001,22:42
dkb made a good point.and its not just being a part of aa. there are lots of organizations that recommend insurance companies, who in turn give discounts to the customers gained by these recommendations. it has jack to do with their driving skill. whats your point? that female drivers are safer than male drivers. or at least, i assumed that from back when you agreed with jynx on the subject. if i am wrong, do please tell me what your point really is. in my example, the person at fault was not physically involved in the accident, which was my point. when you say that insurance companies (whom im sure we all love and trust) and the police (same deal) are finding out and are reporting this for sure, that female drivers are better than male drivers, your saying we can say that for sure. im saying you cant. hence you lose. and as i recall, in germany the standards for being able to drive are fucking incredibly high, which means that basically, all of their drivers are better than like 99.9\% of our drivers. again, this is IIRC, so i may be wrong. and i answered that last bit up at the top there. i didnt bother doing quotes, cause im tired as fuck, and anyone can look if they want. and althornin, id say you pretty much hit the nail on the head, except there probably arent that many guys of the variety you described. ck, i have said before i dont think that women shouldnt be allowed to drive you fucking feminist wuss. but i dont think its very intelligent to give the discount to the group that is less adequately prepared to drive. ------------------ quote: Posted by CatKnight on Jun. 03 2001,22:55
DKB, that was exactly my point. insurance companies only care about money, therefore they make smart decisions to minimize losses due to clients accidents.sithiee, my point was that female drivers are probably less skilled, but cause fewer accidents that cause a lot of damage and injuries. oh yeah, and that you're an idiot and what is it with you trying to prove to yourself that you "beat me"? is it a big ego trip for you? does it make your jacking better? are you jacking off right now? oh look, you just beat yourself there. go get a napkin. ------------------ Posted by Sithiee on Jun. 03 2001,23:45
ck, they only care about money, and so they jack up the price on the customers they have more of (as jim intelligently pointed out). as well as their opinion is still null and void, because they give discounts for being parts of random organizations, which has jack to do with your driving skill, meaning theyre making more money off youre being easily persudaded regardless of your driving skill.and when i say i beat you, it means i shut down your retarded arguments. you dont use logic, you use ass sucking to argue. why would you constantly take it in the ass ck? WHY?!?!?!? Posted by CatKnight on Jun. 04 2001,00:40
insurance companies don't "jack up the prices". they charge more to groups which on average cost them more money. thats how they don't go bankrupt. it's not some grand conspiracy all out to get you. also, please name these 'random organizations'. i'm curious to know because this seems to be a large basis of your argument, but it's extremely vague.it seems to me you are mad at insurance companies for charing women less rates, even though you obviously don't pay our own insurance bill anyway. if you don't like their policies, why don't you just not pay insurace. or rather, why don't you tell your daddy to stop paying your insurance. and i find it amusing that you critisize me of not using logical arguments, and that i "suck up" to the opposite sex, which does't even make sense in itself. you don't make logical critical thoughts at all. you just spout out random arguments that don't even make sense half the time. how is that logical? how do you think you could possibly win an argument this way? i'm just so confused by your stupidity. rather amusing actually. Posted by Sithiee on Jun. 04 2001,01:54
yeah ck, you keep believing that about insurance companies. ive got some magical beans to sell you also.and the reason i know this, is because last year, i had to do this shit project for visual basic, and for extra credit, i went around to lots of car insurance websites and looked at how they come up with rates, and at a lof of them, they ask what organizations you are a member of, because they give discounts for these things. and as for your sucking ass to the opposite sex, if you cant see it, thats sad, but ill tell you im not the only one to have noticed this. and the reason (at least this is my guess) as to why my arguments dont always make sense is because im used to arguing through a dialogue, so a lot of times, when im making a post, its more a stream of thought than an essay. but at least i dont have a holier than thou attitude about it, and i actually consider things before claiming that im absolutely right. in your numerous threads on physics, you spout all this knowledge that you learned in school, and anyone who says your wrong has to face your wrath. i do try my best to completely consider other peoples POV before i bash them though. and stop whining about how my parents make enough money to pay for my car insurance. yes, its a real shame that (i assume) yours cant, but that doesnt make my opinion any less valid. this is another example of your holier than thou attitude. because (i assume) you pay your own car insurance, you assume your opinion is more valid than mine. i really hope for your sake you learn some fucking humility before someone beats the living snot out of you. ------------------ quote: Posted by Vigilante on Jun. 04 2001,02:04
quote: I'd rather see someone beat that humility into him. Posted by CatKnight on Jun. 04 2001,02:57
quote: pssht, i'm not going to rebuy some beans someone tricked you into buying!
quote: and these are? you still have yet to tell me.
quote: oh no, go ahead! please tell me! i'm just dying to know, because i'm so ignorant!
quote:
quote: because they are wrong! you can't have an opinion on fact (e.g. me: the earth is round. sithiee: no it isn't! i think it's a triangle! you only say it's round because you suck-up to the opposite sex! therefore, your arguement is "null and void"!)
quote: i pay my own insurance by choice. thanks.
quote: actually, you are correct here. since your validity was already at 0, it can't become any less valid. Posted by Sithiee on Jun. 04 2001,08:30
quote: go look for yourself, there was a list of like over 1000 organizations, im sorry i dont know them off the top of my head
quote: how about in the women in combat thread. women are just as good fighters as men because they are hot? and how whenever a new girl comes, and she cant post her pic, youre always there to help. theres plenty more, but its 6:20 in the morning and im not going to go search all of detnet.
quote: i do so consider other peoples ideas, i dont suppose i can offer any proof of this, except for the fact that my opinions change from time to time, because i do listen to what other people have to say. i used to think that all drug use = really really bad, and all drug users = evil. then i listened to what they had to say, and while i still feel that drug use is really really bad, i dont still think that drug users are evil. oh wait, im sorry, i considered someone elses opinion.
quote: that is just retarded. lets remember now ck, everything we know in science is considered theory, simply because it cannot be proven absolutely. you should know this. we used to take newtons laws for granted. but they break down when youre nearing light speed, dont they? so then doesnt that mean, that your "science fact" is actually science theory, and therefore someone who holds a different opinion is not inherently wrong? hmm....
quote: i let mine pay by choice, thanks. just cause you choose to pay yours doesnt make you any better than me.
quote: before this, your opinion actually did hold a little weight with me, but the fact that you can be so pigheaded as to think that other peoples opinions dont matter at all, leads me to believe youre just an arrogant little shit, and you dont deserve even the small amount of respect that i had given you in the first place. dont bother replying, anything you say to me will be ignored from now on. ------------------ quote: Posted by Trog on Jun. 04 2001,08:37
Heyo,Some things from the southern tip of Africa: In my experience, Insurance companies down this end of the world charge the same rates to Male and Female types, but those are rates based on being a "Professional" with a degree, which doesn't make much sense, but if it's cheaper for me, that's cool.. and... The South African government has made it illegal to drive with a cellphone held to your ear... You are only allowed to make or receive phonecalls using a hands-free kit. The argument was apparently that you are 4 times more likely to have an accident when you're talking on your cellphone.. It happens to be one of the few things the government has done recently that I approve of... Write your congressman now and get him to do it in the states T ------------------ Posted by Wolfguard on Jun. 04 2001,10:08
men, women, kids, old people...None of you know how to drive. One rule of driving. Thank you for your time. ------------------ Posted by CatKnight on Jun. 04 2001,10:41
ok im not flaming you in this thread anymore it's gotten to off topic
Posted by kuru on Jun. 04 2001,22:58
this thread isn't a discussion, it's a fight from sithiee on why men are better than women.i'd hoped that sithiee had a brain in his head, but he is obviously proving that he doesn't. there are bad men drivers. so what the fuck is all this fighting about? ------------------ Posted by Vigilante on Jun. 04 2001,23:21
It's probably all about that most heinous of capitalistic evils, insurance.
Posted by Sithiee on Jun. 04 2001,23:21
fuck you bitch. if you arent going to take the time to read the posts and at least consider that i might have a valid point, then you are just as close minded and idiotic as ck. as i stated, this is because of things i have observed, not because i think men are flat out better than women(which i dont). if you can fit that through the tiny excuse you have for a brain, then you would realize that your just being a feminist bitch. this is the kind of shit that i would expect from ck, but i actually thought you were above, apparently i was wrong.
Posted by syf0n on Jun. 05 2001,00:07
while we're on the subject....women really aren't sucky drivers if they're taught correctly, it's just that 9/10 of them carry around the crazy-ass-bitch attitude that kuru does, (you know, where they're always right no matter what happens) and they are never at fault for all of their shitty driving. my mom is the only good woman driver I know of...she takes driving courses all the time (racing courses), and she's actually a good driver. better than kuru, I'm sure. incidentally, that dumb fuck Lynn St. James (only woman Indy 500 driver) crashed into the wall after the 5th lap last week. 5 out of 250. h4w h4w!!! More proof, I guess! She must be a bitch like kuru Posted by j0eSmith on Jun. 05 2001,00:22
Shut up, syf0n.------------------ Posted by syf0n on Jun. 05 2001,00:23
kuru...don't be mad, it's not you...it's your--
Posted by L33T_h4x0r_d00d on Jun. 05 2001,10:54
quote: I dont think my speedometer goes that low. ------------------ Jim Bruer: I dont know.. fight mexicans or something. FUHAOHB2IPDEFCIPUDQNFQFYLOEGOGB Posted by Trog on Jun. 05 2001,11:29
quote: Okay, after 45 Posts, it's time to break my "not flaming Syph1ll1s" streak for a bit. Syf0n, you're a fucking moron. Your Mother was a moron for not using birth control, you father was a moron for jerking off into your mother's bed, and the doctors have some answering to do for letting an obvious darwin case like you live. Kuru stated her case plainly and simply... quote: she happened to flame sithee a bit at the same time, but hey, he deserved that; his arguments haven't been particularly well reasoned or logical. Just for the record, I do, in fact, think that there is very little difference between male and female drivers; it's all a function of experience....
------------------ This message has been edited by Trog on June 06, 2001 at 06:41 AM Posted by CatKnight on Jun. 05 2001,11:58
quote: oh GOOD. i'm glad it wasn't just me!
Posted by Wolfguard on Jun. 05 2001,14:10
quote: You must be the guy that makes my truck go from 70 to 80 when he passes me. ------------------ Posted by syf0n on Jun. 05 2001,19:37
ha! I'm not fighting, I'm blatantly flaming. your insults are so incredibly dumb I don't even have words for you...sorry :\
Posted by L33T_h4x0r_d00d on Jun. 05 2001,21:20
Ok heres my new toy. Going to pick it up this weekend.Mine is black and red, not purple. 147 hp and 400lbs. I can taste the emergency room alcohol already. ------------------ Jim Bruer: I dont know.. fight mexicans or something. FUHAOHB2IPDEFCIPUDQNFQFYLOEGOGB Posted by CatKnight on Jun. 05 2001,23:23
its b3aut1ful
Posted by syf0n on Jun. 05 2001,23:31
damn, son
Posted by Rhydant on Jun. 06 2001,01:46
edit-im stupid. i thought the one youre getting was purple too. damn. ------------------ This message has been edited by Rhydant on June 06, 2001 at 08:49 PM Posted by Wolfguard on Jun. 06 2001,11:54
quote: Did you get the clothes and helmet to match the bikes paint job? (is that like a law or something?) Where do send the scraper i want to donate so they can get all your parts off the road? ------------------ Posted by L33T_h4x0r_d00d on Jun. 06 2001,15:07
quote: Yea i got a red and black helmet and racing suit with the "THICK" leather patches. About 迀 in clothing.
quote: Oh ...he card read good. Ill probably splatter too much to scrape up... but a nice large sponge would be nice. ------------------ Jim Bruer: I dont know.. fight mexicans or something. FUHAOHB2IPDEFCIPUDQNFQFYLOEGOGB Posted by CatKnight on Jun. 06 2001,18:10
he's not going to. i already tried. he's an idiot. let it go. argument over.
Posted by L33T_h4x0r_d00d on Jun. 06 2001,18:32
Ok wait. Now I have to defend sithee here for a second. I can see where he gets his view. Here in the dc area there are alot of terrible drivers. Most of them from lower income homes with the "im gonna do whatever the fuck I want to" attitude. And most are women. NOW... Im not saying theres any correlation to being lower income or women to being a bad driver. Its just I see it every day. And just to back everyone else up.. 99\% of the time when you see someone doing something really stupid...theyre on the phone....I guess that kinda works out. Since girls talk on the phone more.------------------ Jim Bruer: I dont know.. fight mexicans or something. FUHAOHB2IPDEFCIPUDQNFQFYLOEGOGB Posted by CatKnight on Jun. 06 2001,19:29
on the contrary l33t, although women may talk on the phone more, i've seen WAY more men talking on cell phones while driving. infact, from what i've observed, it's probably 75/25 men to women talking on cell phone. also, women are more polite usually and let you pass more easily, where as many men are like "don't pass me you fucker". and i live near d.c., and i drive 295 through d.c. (including anacostia) twice a day.
Posted by Dark Knight Bob on Jun. 06 2001,21:01
ok the delivery guy for our garden center drives like a fucking lunatic but is stil a very competent driver he drives very fast and is very aggresive but o all the times i've been with him on the dielveries he has never once actually made a bad judgement call like not keepina good braking distance or checking himself out in the mirror (i see gurls do this all the time while driving with them and no its not just them looking behind them) but fuck it i dont care abot this arguemnt now cos no matter what any of you say no gurl is goona go over speed bumps in a delivery truck at 50mph so obviously this proves my point that women drivers aare crap behind the wheel. cos they too scared to control the car when the car controls them. and yes not going over speed bumps at 50mph does prove my point cos its damn good fun..BOING!!!!!!.------------------ Posted by Sithiee on Jun. 06 2001,21:18
quote: hmm...perhaps we're observing different things...but then since its what weve been observing, wouldnt our opinions be equally valid?... and maybe its a MD/VA thing. most of the md drivers i see here(regardless of sex) just blow. maybe its cause they dont know the area as well, but we really do see a shitload of bad MD drivers, to the point where they stick out from VA ones. ------------------ quote: Posted by L33T_h4x0r_d00d on Jun. 06 2001,23:42
quote: So do you take anacostia in the triple digits like I do. I wouldnt want to stop there if my balls were on fire. Like I was saying these were pesonal observations. And I see way more chicks on phones than guys. Im not saying your wrong, its just different. Tysons corner is a fucking madhouse especially in the morning. I dont think anyone is predisposed to driving any worse than anyone else. But social and colloquial atmospheres play a large part in it. ------------------ Jim Bruer: I dont know.. fight mexicans or something. FUHAOHB2IPDEFCIPUDQNFQFYLOEGOGB Posted by askheaves on Jun. 07 2001,04:34
In Tucson, especially winter, you don't just drive your car... you also drive the cars of all the old people around you. You see, they can't turn their necks before switching lanes. They also can't see outside the range of the middle of their hood, because they wear those HUGE FUCKING SUNGLASSES that block their peripheral vision. Plus, they're driving cars with more inertia than the U.S.S. Constitution, and talking on cell phones to their grandchildren across the street. So it takes a delicate balancing act of staying out of people's blind spots (99.8\% of the world), and keeping your car from rear ending somebody who pulled into traffic 2 minutes ago, but still isn't up to speed yet.Sorry for ranting during a good discussion off-topic, but I'm just so glad it's summer and they're all back home where they don't need to drive. It may be 140 degrees in my car, but I feel safe again. Posted by askheaves on Jun. 07 2001,05:16
quote: Thanks, mang. Now I have to change my underwear. I wish I had money... Posted by Jynx on Jun. 07 2001,05:39
Sithee, you keep saying "100's of organizations". And you can't remember a single name? Please. Guess what, everybody! I just read from over 1000 organizations that if you drink a special combination of Tabasco Sauce and donkey piss, you'll live forever! Don't you dare question my sources, there are over 1000 of them! As for your driving experience with women, how can you POSSIBLY extrapolate your little piss-town experiences with the rest of the country? If I tried to do that, I would summarize that 80\% of American drivers are over the age of 70 and drive 30 miles an hour, no matter what road they're on (I live in a retirement town). Kuru stated it correctly--"There are bad men drivers. There are bad women drivers." I will venture to add that not only is almost everyone on the road a bad driver, but that almost EVERYONE thinks that they drive better than they do, myself included, and you included too, Sithee. So until YOU can give me some comprehensive, unbiased, concrete evidence that women drive worse than men, I'm going to continue to belive that you are a shallow-minded fool. Have a nice day, and please don't forget about supplying a couple of those organizations' names, mmkay? Posted by CatKnight on Jun. 07 2001,16:11
quote: it's usually backed up because the exit for rt. 50 is always backed up for miles. i agree though, i wouldn't walk around anacostia if my life depended on it (because if it did, i'd die either way). last summer when i got a flat tire on 295, i waited on the road for 2 hours and flagged down a cop, who called a towtruck, so i wouldn't have to walk to anacostia. that place is a shit hole! Posted by Sithiee on Jun. 07 2001,16:52
quote: sounds like my grandma. she doesnt believe in blind spots. now, i dont understand how you just dont believe they exist, but if you see a grey lexus driving along switching lanes without regard to cars in the other lanes, thats my grandma. i know its tempting, but please dont run her off the road. ------------------ quote: Posted by L33T_h4x0r_d00d on Jun. 07 2001,16:57
quote: Anacostia is such a clean place that you dont have to be jesus to WALK across the potomac. ------------------ Jim Bruer: I dont know.. fight mexicans or something. FUHAOHB2IPDEFCIPUDQNFQFYLOEGOGB Posted by pengu1nn on Jun. 13 2001,18:28
you all drive worse than me. nothing you say can change that (was in a bad car wreck (wasn't driving), so now i have to drive or i freak out about everything, breaking, swerving, cell phones, and NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO THE FUCKING ROAD) i would have to say everyone sucks at driving. that's just the way it has to be. i do try and be a good driver though, so its not like i was born god of driving or anything but, i fell safe when i drive and only when i drive.so now that i have said that, women are worse drivers from what i can tell. (men aren't that far ahead of them though), they just don't pay attention to the road, at all. "did you hear that rob just..blah blah blah..." SLAM!!! you just hit a car you dumb bitch (or bastard, i wont discriminate) all i say is watch what the fuck you are doing, you hit my new car and i'll fucking kill ya. (well maybe just kick you in the balls/puss a few times) Posted by jim on Jun. 14 2001,05:05
Fuel for the fire...
------------------ Posted by Sithiee on Jun. 14 2001,05:38
im quite sure nothing i can say would top that.but that is one of the funniest things ever. ------------------ quote: Posted by CatKnight on Jun. 14 2001,12:06
hahahha thats funny jim. but on the otherhand, yesterday i saw 2 cars with their gas door open and the knob off dangling around on the beltway, both were middle aged men.oh yeah and then there was this jeep with rediculously fucking huge tires that swerved infront of me. i honked, and the guy in the back gave me the finger. turned out there were two uber hotties in the front seat hehe. |