Forum: Rants
Topic: Sex... Bad
started by: whtdrgn
Posted by whtdrgn on Oct. 25 2000,12:19
You might think this is in the wron forum but its not. Have you noticed how we still hold puritin beliefs that enything pleasurable is bad. We can't drink or smoke, we can't get high, and worst of all - all enjoyable sexual practices are taboo (this does not include and S/M shit). My wife had mentioned to her mother that we perform oral sex on each other and she went flippen nutts. She won't watch our kids any more, and they want to have a "talk with us." WTF I think it is time that we piss on the puritins and start having fun. In germany you can find beer in a vending machine. We have this war on drugs, that could pay off our national debt. I think we need to take a different approach to alot of things we do. What do you think guys?
Posted by whiskey@throttle on Oct. 25 2000,14:51
All I will say is this: anyone who doesn't appreciate you for who you are and what you embrace shouldn't have the priviledge of being your friend.This includes family.
Posted by Jynx on Oct. 25 2000,15:14
They wanna talk??!?!!?Heh, maybe they want lessons.  Seriously, I agree with whisky (for once  )--it's their problem, and if they don't want to see their grandkids because of what you two do BEHIND CLOSED DOORS, it's their loss.
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Posted by askheaves on Oct. 25 2000,16:30
quote:
Originally posted by Jynx:
--it's their problem, and if they don't want to see their grandkids because of what you two do BEHIND CLOSED DOORS, it's their loss.
Yeah... do they believe the grandkids were the result of another coming of the emmaculate conception? Or are they the sort that thinks every wad should create a kid? ------------------
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Posted by kuru on Oct. 25 2000,16:33
why any adult would ever discuss his/her bedroom habits with his/her parent(s) is beyond me. i can't imagine any circumstances under which i'd talk to my parents about what i do in bed. aside from that, i think it's horrible that they'd punish their grandchildren by not allowing them to spend time with grandma and grandpa just because they disagree with what you and your wife do when you're alone.i dunno why your wife was talkin to her mother about the specifics of what goes on in your bed, but that doesn't seem like a normal mom/daughter talk to me. maybe i'm just weird, but my mom doesn't talk about what she does with my dad, and i don't tell her about what i do with my boyfriend (when i had one). i agree that the puritannical nature of this society is completely fucked up, but i also think that with your parents isn't the right place to discuss your favorite sexual practices. and why doesn't it include bdsm? whatever's pleasurable to two or more consenting adults, provided it doesn't break any of the list of rules i mentioned in the kinky sex thread, seems fine to me. ------------------
kuru
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Posted by Rhydant on Oct. 26 2000,03:26
well, as long as you dont live in vermont (or is it another state?) its totally legal. sure, if your gay you can get married there, but oral and anal sex (sorry, sorry) are illegal. i dont know how the hell they enforce this rule (i don tthink i wanna know).------------------
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Posted by jrh1406 on Nov. 06 2000,19:04
actually you can't get married in vermont if you're queer, you can only get a civil union
Posted by Hellraiser on Nov. 06 2000,22:37
My stance on the whole pleasure thing: if what you are doing doesn't in any way hurt anyone, and as long as you don't try to force me to do anything, do as you please. This includes anal & oral sex if you're into it.Just don't expect me to tell you everything I do. ------------------
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Posted by CatKnight on Nov. 07 2000,02:10
well alchohol can be addictive, dangerous, expensive, and deadly in the long run. drugs can be very deadly if you get some bad stuff. in moderation most things are okay, including weed. the problem is most people are too stupid to look after themselves and thus the government has to protect everyone else by making them illegal. ciggarettes would have been made illegal 20 years ago except that so much of the economy is based on tobacco the whole country would be fucked.
Posted by hyperponic on Nov. 07 2000,04:50
it all boils down to a simple fact: you cannot protect people from their own stupidity. lets be clear on this - YOU CANNOT PROTECT PEOPLE FROM THEIR OWN STUPIDITY! nor should you try. now that doesn't mean you shouldn't have things like treatment centers for addicts - but we should not have national 'wars' where the only freakin' victims are the goddamn users! i'm sure you're smart enough to expand the idea beyond that obvious example...------------------
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Posted by demonk on Nov. 07 2000,04:56
quote:
YOU CANNOT PROTECT PEOPLE FROM THEIR OWN STUPIDITY!
Yes you can. That is why god invented the straight jacket 
Posted by Sithiee on Nov. 07 2000,08:19
you should try and protect people from others' stupidity though. thats why driving drunk is illegal, they can test for it, and it helps stop other people from getting killed. i still think our court system is far too lenient on drunk drivers though...but anything you do and keep in your own house should be your own damn business. thats why you can get as drunk as you want, as long as you dont drive.
Posted by L33T_h4x0r_d00d on Nov. 17 2000,12:47
quote:
Originally posted by Sithiee:
i still think our court system is far too lenient on drunk drivers though...
Actually have you ever seen what they do to drunk drivers in va. I get a lot of speeding tickets(damn state troopers) most of which are little bullshit tickets that I fight in court.(2 mph over) Every time I go there are drunk drivers there. If convicted(which 99\% are) they loose thier license for 2 years with chance of a restricted one after 1. They have to take ASAP(Alcohal Safety Action Program) which costs 蹢 a month, for 2 years. Plus their insurance goes up and they almost always get community service.(25-100 hours) Thats reason enough for me not to drink and drive. ------------------
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Posted by Sithiee on Nov. 18 2000,01:50
a 3 year sentence that doesnt require jail time is lenient for endangering so many lives. drunk driving should be loss of license for at least 5 years, and there should be some jail time in there, and even then that would still be too lenient. theres just no damn excuse.
Posted by nobody on Nov. 18 2000,19:26
I recently read an article in the Washington Post about how the courts in Montgomery County, MD (just outside of DC) are letting people get away with as many as 12 DUIs (including DUI accidents with injuries) before even taking away their licence... now that is lenient. On the other hand, the policy in NYC is a bit too much to the opposite extreme (AFAIK they take away your car if you are DUI even once), but I don't think its unreasonable to require jail time and to impound or seize vehicles of DUI drivers on a second or greater offense.Overall though I think that more or less anything you do in your own home, on your own time, and that doesn't harm anyone else should be legal. Get as drunk as you want, but stay off the road if you do. It's your choice if you want to mess with your own mind and body, but only as long as whatever you do to yourself doesn't also affect other people who don't want anything to be affected. (If that makes any sense at all).
Posted by nobody on Nov. 18 2000,19:26
I recently read an article in the Washington Post about how the courts in Montgomery County, MD (just outside of DC) are letting people get away with as many as 12 DUIs (including DUI accidents with injuries) before even taking away their licence... now that is lenient. On the other hand, the policy in NYC is a bit too much to the opposite extreme (AFAIK they take away your car if you are DUI even once), but I don't think its unreasonable to require jail time and to impound or seize vehicles of DUI drivers on a second or greater offense.Overall though I think that more or less anything you do in your own home, on your own time, and that doesn't harm anyone else should be legal. Get as drunk as you want, but stay off the road if you do. It's your choice if you want to mess with your own mind and body, but only as long as whatever you do to yourself doesn't also affect other people who don't want to be affected. (If that makes any sense at all).
Posted by kuru on Nov. 18 2000,22:28
i still wanna know why this dude's wife was discussing the details of their sex life with her mother.------------------
kuru
'sex is one of the most beautiful and natural things that money can buy' - steve martin
Posted by portrman on Nov. 18 2000,23:00
Yeh whtdrgn, why would your wife tell her parents about what the 2 of u do in bed. I have never and will never tell my parents what I do, because it is none of their busness. If my wife ever has a kid then they will know that we have had sex, but that is the extent to what they need to know. As for the grandparents not wanting to take care of the kids, I say damn them!!! Good grandparents should never let the parents actions influence how they deal with their grandchildren.Just my oh so humble opinion though.
Posted by Chucklz on Nov. 26 2000,00:53
We should take the training wheels of society. Why should the government play nanny to America? Sure getting plastered and then getting into your car and driving should be a punishable offense. But states still have laws against fornication, oral/anal sex. Now I know that most of these statutes are not enforced, but seriously, we need to lighten up just a little.
Posted by Spydir Web on Nov. 27 2000,05:12
I know someone said something about it, but in North Carolina doing anything but the "missionary position" is illegal... no doggy style for you! But, another funny NC law is if you go to a hotel/motel with someone and register as a married couple, legally you're considered married.I remember something about a law against using cr0bars to deface movies or something in some state, not to sure though... ;P ------------------
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Posted by kuru on Nov. 29 2000,15:43
whtdrgn emailed me this and asked that i post it. i'm making no commentary, just giving you exactly what he said. quote:
whtdrgn said:
I would reply to the detnet forum but it hates my password. If you could
post this for me I would be happy.My wife did not mean to discus it, it kind of came out. My mother in law is
a total nut case, and has no respect for our provacy. She made a copy of
our house key without asking and then refused to give it back. She will
just come in without nocking, and if the phone is busy for over 30 minutes,
she will rush over and demand to knwo why. She is always asking my wife
about our sex lives, and my wife usually tells her that it is none of her
damn buisness, but she was a bit more sneaky this time.
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kuru
'sex is one of the most beautiful and natural things that money can buy' - steve martin
Posted by Jynx on Nov. 30 2000,05:21
Whtdrgn, lemme make a quick suggestion--change your locks and hide your keys. If she somehow gets another key, move. To another state. There is NO way you can have a long, happy marriage without the privacy that your mom-in-law is denying you. Mark my words, if you keep letting her do this, you will probably be divorced in five years.
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Posted by whtdrgn_2 on Dec. 01 2000,13:53
Hello everyone, I'm back. Thats what I get for trying to avaid spammers...Well as far as the mother-in-hell, my wife and I moved to an apartment (bye bye house), and we are not alowed to give away the outside door keys (yipee); however, my mother-in-hell now stands outside of the door and rings the bell like a mad women (which she is), until we buzz her in. When my wife and I were going through some problems (yes I am not perfect), her mother started cuttign up her arm, and my father-in-hell did nothing to stop it. Then that nutty bitch tried to make me feel guilty because she picked up the knife. Does anyone know of a place in a different state( preferable country), that is in need of C coders, and has cheap rent? I need to get the Hell out of here before I go crazy. And as for divorce, no marrige is easy, and this does make it hard. I don't quit and I intend to stay with my wife (as long as her damn mother doesn't move in with us). ------------------
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Posted by aventari on Dec. 01 2000,14:47
Where is North Canton at? In So Cal i'm sure you could find a descent coding job, and rent isn't TOO expensive. it's getting there, but thankfully there's still a few cheap(er) places to live. Your profile says:
"I love to program cobol in VI " Are you really sure who's the insane one here?? ;] ------------------
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Posted by whtdrgn_2 on Dec. 01 2000,15:40
The cobol thing was a joke. I might get flamed for this but I hate cobol. I would rather take a concrete enima then write one more line of cobol. As for VI well, I like that editor, and no EMACS fan will ever sway me. I would like something a little more out west. As long as I dont fork for Micro$loth I dont care. My mother in law called me on my lunch to tell me that my new apartment is going to kill my kids, and that fact that I have not hung up the cutins is going to get my wifed raped. Arrrrrrrrrrrg. Doeas anyone else have any inlaw (girl/boyfriends parent will do) problems like this?
Posted by askheaves on Dec. 01 2000,15:57
Is there any way to fight back? Like, start critiquing her life? Tell her that her car causes cancer. Tell her that you have no plans to support her when she's all old and stuff. Tell her that she is the single reason that there is strain on this marriage.Why is your wife impotent to do anything? She probably knows what buttons to push to get the silent treatment for a few days 
Posted by whtdrgn_2 on Dec. 01 2000,16:36
My wife has had the silent treatment for quite some time; however, that is not important. Any time I so much as blow my nose the wrong way, I am being condesending and need to apologize to her. She thinks that I am the bad guy because I wont let her wach the kids an longer (well no shit lady, you cut yourslef up when you get upset, and throw tantrums that top my todlers). I don't think there is an escape.
Posted by Michael on Dec. 01 2000,20:19
Well, normally I would suggest that you tell your mother-in-law straight out that she is ruining the marriage, but in this case I doubt that would do any good. Instead, you have to do whatever you need to to drive the point home that she is not in control of your life. Moving far away would do very well, if you can afford it.This may sound rather random, but is your wife a youngest / only child? Secondly, how old are her parents? Are they retired? This sounds like a classic example of a mother trying to hang onto her child and live vicariously through her.
Posted by j0eSmith on Dec. 01 2000,23:44
Can't you file for a restraining order or something? Or possibly admit her to a mental hospital?------------------
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Posted by whtdrgn_2 on Dec. 04 2000,11:19
I have though about getting a restraining order, but my wife wont let me. I guess that she likes to be controlled by that evil bitch. Back to thread topic. Has anyone noticed America's generall good = bad thing?
Posted by kuru on Dec. 04 2000,16:02
only when they're discussing my sex life in the sex forum.------------------
kuru
'sex is one of the most beautiful and natural things that money can buy' - steve martin
Posted by Jynx on Dec. 05 2000,18:17
To deviate--try the Seattle, WA, area, on the west side of the Sound--good places to live, very cheap, beautiful land. I love it.To drag this beast back on track--lots of us don't drink, smoke, or get high because we don't like the crap that it does to our bodies (if ya wanna argue this, resurrect one of the many "drugs" rants), and actually where I live we have swingers clubs, and all the "adult" shops around advertise on the radio, so it doesn't seem very puritan to me, more like refreshingly liberal.
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Posted by whtdrgn_2 on Dec. 07 2000,14:06
Perhaps it is only in the very conservative republican town of North Canton Ohio. However, Ambiance does advertise on the radio and billboards where I live. Mabey I will start a "My mother is a nut-case" thread.
Posted by MinscBoo on Dec. 23 2000,02:56
Good idea.
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