Forum: Rants Topic: Single people with "Together" friends. started by: damien_s_lucifer Posted by damien_s_lucifer on May 09 2001,21:05
here is something interesting. as a general rule, the people that say I shouldn't think about girls etc. and just "forget about it" are all the ones who have girl or boyfriends... for some reason I suspect that most advice like "don't worry" and "you have to be happy with yourself first" actually means "Look, being single sucks, and every time you start talking about it makes ME worry so could you please shut up and go away?"yeah, involved people worry about being lonely. Single people actually have to deal with loneliness on a daily basis. Do "involved" people seriously expect us to keep our mouths shut about it for the comfort and convenience of people who have relationships? The answer, all too often, is "yes." Posted by CatKnight on May 09 2001,22:07
i agree. my friends who are in a relationship (all of them girls) often give me advice such as:"Stop looking! She'll come when you stop looking." "Well we started out as friends, just look for friends" and the ever-inspiring: "aww..." oh yeah and i love it how they try to cheer me up by telling me how nice their b/f is, and how they have to end the convesation now because they're about to go have sex, when it's apparant that i like them too. "aww..." Posted by Chrissy on May 10 2001,00:14
You have to realize that things arent just going to happen you have to try and make that happen. Thats the main problem with people these days they want it to just come to them. I totally know what its like to live life lonely (all too well I think) I would say majority of this board is without an SO at the moment--- sometimes being happy without being with someone is the true way to reach out... ------------------ Posted by Rhydant on May 10 2001,00:39
yeh... i wish i had a girl friend... being single does suck. especially on lonely nights when youre friends are out with their women and your stuck at home screwing around in Photoshop. its just depressing.im almost fully confident that i CAN get a girl friend, its just that... i cant talk to them very well.... or something. ------------------ Posted by mqa on May 10 2001,01:05
yup it sucks alright. whats worse though is when they take pity on you and invite you along. talk about 5th wheel... i will now refrain from making any bitter or mysogynistic staements.
Posted by jiggyfresh on May 10 2001,02:26
i hate when they ask "why dont you have a girl friend?" wtf, like theyre on sale at the 7-11 or something
Posted by Sithiee on May 10 2001,08:23
quote: my grandma used to ask me if i had a girlfriend....i dont remember too clearly, but i think that eventually i told her i did and thats why she dropped it.... Posted by LiNeY on May 10 2001,19:51
quote: there is only one thing worse than that question... and that's the question "why dont you have a boyfriend?" That's the question people have asked me about 100 times a month over the last 2 years. And the bad thing is - no matter what you answer, they don't believe you... I think they should start selling them at the 7-11, that would make life a lot easier. ------------------ Posted by PersonGuy on May 11 2001,01:20
On a single guy side note: When I go look for a girl, the only barganing power I have is money (not true for ALL guys... but for me). Pay for concert tickets... pay for dinner... pay for wine... pay for flowers... pay for etc...So why can't I pay for an unlabeled future purchace. I give them money, and they buy ANYTHING they want with it. YES, this is prostitution. Why is this illegal? If I want to spend my hard earned cash on sex with woman I don't know, why should I have to go to jail? If a woman consents to have sex in exchange for money, why should SHE go to jail? I'm going to take a stab at it... (and I may be TOTALLY wrong, but) there are more women voters in America. They realize that if prostitution was legal, men would have NO reason to date them. They would simply pay a PROFESSIONAL to entusiastically do them. ------------------ Posted by CatKnight on May 11 2001,02:21
wow personguy that made me feel like a million bucks (canadian)! now...what to spend it on...oh yeah! ho's!
Posted by Observer on May 11 2001,02:31
It's like George Carlin says:Selling is legal, fucking is legal. So why isn't selling fucking legal? Why is it a crime to sell something that's perfectly alright to give away? (That's as accurately as I recall it, anyway.) Having been through both sides of this, I know that when I am with someone, that's the advice I want to give (the "just hang in there" line). But I also know that when I am feeling lonely and single, it's nearly impossible for someone to convince me that it's what I need to do. I'm not sure what the exact fix is, but I do know that the person who can market it would hit the mother lode. You mean like that "Jump to Conclusions" mat I was working on? No, not like that. ------------------ Posted by LiNeY on May 11 2001,09:15
quote: 1. I don't believe you. You've definitely got more than money to seduce a girl. I don't know ya much, I have no idea about your looks or whatever. But I know that at least you've got two more things than money on your side: intelligence and humor. And that is gonna get you a lot further than just bucks. 2. Money doesn't get every girl. And it doesn't get you love. I'm kinda with you concerning the legalization of prostitution (they are just making a new law here that makes "prostitute" a regular job), but I don't think that it could satisfy all your needs (okay, most of 'em maybe...). Money is fine, but its power limited. It sounds stupid to say "there's things that money can't buy" but I guess there's more truth to those words than we want to admit. Posted by Chrissy on May 11 2001,12:02
*sings* Can't buy me looove. Can't buy me looove.Im with observer on this one! You can never take your own advice. No one is going to be able to tell you- It's alright, it's ok things will get better. The only thing you can do is make it happen. It may not be easy and it may not be what you want but if you never put yourself out there- you'll never ever get the things you want. And as far as prostitution is concerned. There was a prostitutes rights movement back in the 80's believe it or not. This country is too high on morality to let it become legal. This brings me to my last point on PG's post. What you are doing is sort of like legalized prostitution according to most radical feminists. They contest that marriage (or relationships) are goods exchanged for sex. I think I've mentioned this theory before. Well think about it- you take a woman to dinner, buy flowers, do all those romantic things in exchange for the hope of getting laid (and if you get the right girl chances are you probably will). Marriage is sort of a given (more so then in relationships) but you see my point. ------------------ Posted by PersonGuy on May 11 2001,14:01
quote: Ahh... the voice of reason. You're right: I'M ONE SEXY DUDE! Hehehe... Seriously though, I misstated what I REALLY wanted to say. I LOVE love (way better than sex)... love is good... but like someone else said (not too long ago), it actually takes effort to have a good relationship. Great relationships don't just fall into your lap. My point is, there should be a legal way for men who don't WANT to try (like me) or spend any extra time to just get laid. It's like a TV dinner... you can buy a potato, green been, corn, wheat, and cherry tree seeds... grow some crops... mash the potatos... steam the grean beans... mill the wheat... steam the corn... mix the cherries with sugar and make a cherry crum pie... OR buy a TV dinner. The TV dinner (in perportion) is 8 times more expensive! But I don't have time for damn crops! Sure... hoing and weeding is thearaputic, but I can save that till I'm a senior citizen! And belive me... some of you chich out there: FARM! BIG ASS FARM WITH LIVESTOCK!! I need to hire several farmhands to handle some of you women! And prostitutes are TV dinners... just pop it in the microwave and enjoy. ------------------ Posted by cr0bar on May 11 2001,21:25
quote: As opposed to the < other things > one might pop into the microwave and enjoy... Posted by PersonGuy on May 12 2001,00:28
ROFLMAO
Posted by masher on May 12 2001,11:18
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I was going to go back and edit that part, but I thought, "Nah... nobody will be THAT immature..."*sigh* This is DetNet... and I'm an IDIOT for forgetting... ------------------ Posted by CatKnight on May 12 2001,15:10
btw in case you guys didn't know, the reason why prostitution is illegal is to protect young women. if it was legal, then lots of 18 year old girls would do it for the money and be corrupted for life. also, being a prostitute is very dangerous.
Posted by solid on May 12 2001,15:54
I have to say I saw a lot more attitude from PG in this thread than the other threads..
Posted by LiNeY on May 12 2001,16:41
quote: I agree, it is dangerous. But it is even more dangerous if it is illegal. One of the reasons why they are passing a law here to make it a "profession" is to get the girls ou of the illegality, and be able to better protect them. And I don't think that 18 year old girls would do it for the money. Maybe some, but I think a woman who is stupid enough to want to do it for money will do so, forbidden or not. And I don't know any girls my age who would do it for money... do you really think any of the girls in here would do it for money? Posted by PersonGuy on May 13 2001,01:42
quote: Fo some mo o dat check < dis > out!
quote: They limit bartender jobs to people who are at least 21... I don't see why they can't do the same with prostitution. And being a stunt-man or a lion taimer is very dangerous too... but it's legal. ------------------ Posted by solid on May 13 2001,02:09
quote: Oh.. my.. god.. that's brilliant! Posted by kornalldaway on May 13 2001,05:51
quote: hahaha ------------------ Posted by CatKnight on May 13 2001,11:40
quote: incorrect, my friend! it's 18! you can be a bartender even if you aren't old enough to drink what you're making! besides i don't see how that example relates to prostitution. Posted by PersonGuy on May 13 2001,15:38
Well you can't be president till your 35... GOOD ENOUGH?I don't see why prostitution can't just be A JOB like being a stipper or a waitress or a chef or a trucker or a clown or a teacher or a janator or a number cruncher... ------------------ Posted by CatKnight on May 13 2001,16:52
because chefs and waiters aren't subject to deadly diseases and violent obsessive abusive men who BEAT them DAILY.
Posted by Dark Knight Bob on May 13 2001,18:45
when i get lonely i just beat ma monkay.... my monkay from black and white that is ...woohaha i so funny hehehe lol lol ...ho hum...oh go away ------------------ lil kid: STOP IT STOP IT he's already dead! Posted by PersonGuy on May 14 2001,00:40
quote: While I haven't been BEATEN... as a janator I'm subject to deadly diseases. You wouldn't belive how many women MISS the FUCKIN tampon bag!! Sure... I have rubber gloves... but so do prostitues. And if it was legal it would be REQUIRED that THEY use them, just like it is for me. ------------------ This message has been edited by PersonGuy on May 14, 2001 at 07:43 PM Posted by LiNeY on May 14 2001,05:47
Totally agreed on that one, CatKnight. But isn't it easier to protect those poor girls if it is not illegal for them to do what they're doing? If you accept prostitution as a job, like any other job, you can make laws that force them to go to regular health checks, and to have an insurance. You can also, by legalizing what they are doing, help them get away from those men who beat them daily. A girl who knows she will be arrested for being a prostitute won't ask the police for help against her man. A girl who knows she has some rights can ask for help, and she'll get it a lot easier.I don't think prostitution is a nice thing, and it is horrible for the girls who have to do it. But making something illegal has never stopped anything (think of the prohibition - did people stop drinking alcohol?), while legalizing it can help to make it less dangerous. Posted by masher on May 15 2001,12:28
quote: Sorry PG, but it was crying out for that... ------------------ |