Forum: Rants
Topic: The Problem with men...
started by: Chrissy

Posted by Chrissy on Apr. 22 2001,14:15
This is just a start over from my originally post on why men suck- but not really.

I realised recently that the guys who say they are "nice guys" are really just assholes in disguise. The real issue is that just about every guy thinks hes a nice guy. The truth is that they are no better than those assholes and pricks they so vehemently chastise. Think about it. You are sitting home on a friday night thinking "WHy dont I have a date" and then to make yourself feel better you say "Its because Im too much of a nice guy that no one wants to go out with me" tell me does this make sense?

I can tell you from direct experience that all girls no matter what they say want nice guys to date them. Who wants to date a real jackoff? When you first meet someone you think they are a nice person you have a few dates with them next thing you know you are in love with that person. You dont realise they are an asshole because all during that time they were hiding it from you. I have no doubt that their are some seriously good guys out there. Most of them if they are such are already taken, married or gay- the rest thats left are the assholes who think they are nice guys and thats why they are sitting at home on a friday night wondering why they dont have a date.

As for me and my ex- we arent talking any more because he's too much of a baby to deal with the shit that has happened. I decided last week (thats right all time Ive been absent in this place IVe been dealing with this shit) that it isnt worth my time to talk to him because he will never treat me with any kind of respect. I got my stuff back from him and that was the end of it. I wont say its been easy this past week- but I do know that I can no longer be hurt by his indecisiveness or his hypocracy.


Posted by askheaves on Apr. 22 2001,14:41
I'm very glad to hear you're moving on from your last guy. Very healthy of you

However, with your rants on men, there's always a tails side to the coin. I've gone out with girls before who were the nicest chicks in the world. It didn't take too long, but many turn out to be heinous bitches. They'll be all nice for a while, but then one or two things will slip that should be warning signs, but they're not.

Then, they become controlling, evil, smothering, and they withhold all sorts of sex from you. It's like, I agree that communication is important, and it's definitely good to tell them when you can't make plans or need to change them... but we're so scared to do it because of the reaming we're gonna get just for changing them.

I'm gonna stop now because I've got some issues. I'm a better person for living through them, but I don't need to relive them. Just trying to say that men are assholes, but women have their problems too.


Posted by Sithiee on Apr. 22 2001,18:13
oh man, i admit, im a major asshole. im nice to people who treat me with respect...no, make that i respect people who treat me with respect, and im an asshole to people who treat me without respect. i dont really care that much what people think of me, although i do really enjoy it when people say nice things about me...and i have to agree with heaves, at first they seem all nice and wanna be your friend, but then they wanna fuck your best friend, after basically cockteasing you, and then they dont get it when you dont wanna be their friend after calling you a gun toting freak....im not bitter
Posted by Dark Knight Bob on Apr. 22 2001,19:30
every human being has a dark side... everyone!

the fact that people say men can be nasty... well DUH! so can women too. women just say that sometimes cos the guy they were going out with was more of an asshole than the rest of us. if life were perfect it'd be pretty fucking boring!


Posted by solid on Apr. 22 2001,19:51
I kind of agree.
I'm a rather nice person (on average), however my most common moods are (from most to least):

Cheerful
Crazy
Depressed
Intellectual
VERY INCREDIBLY ANGRY
Numb (blank, zip, nothing)


The problem with me is after 2 days of being my friend, I start complaining about my family! Hell I even warn people, they get weirded out, but they still hang around, and at the end they usually start to complain.

I mean I'd stop, and I do, but sometimes I can't help it.


Posted by solid on Apr. 22 2001,19:51
god
damned
double
post!!

This message has been edited by solid on April 27, 2001 at 09:24 AM


Posted by just_dave on Apr. 22 2001,20:24
if thats the truth then why does every female tell me im to nice and good for them?

Here comes a flame

edit: not every just the ones I like??

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This message has been edited by just_dave on April 23, 2001 at 03:24 PM


Posted by CatKnight on Apr. 22 2001,21:29
cuz what they really mean is that you're ugly
Posted by Blain on Apr. 22 2001,22:44
HAHAH-oh wait
Posted by CatKnight on Apr. 23 2001,05:20
quote:
You are sitting home on a friday night thinking "WHy dont I have a date" and then to make yourself feel better you say "Its because Im too much of a nice guy that no one wants to go out with me" tell me does this make sense?

well that's inductive logic for ya


Posted by LiNeY on Apr. 23 2001,05:31
quote:
Originally posted by Chrissy:
You are sitting home on a friday night thinking "WHy dont I have a date" and then to make yourself feel better you say "Its because Im too much of a nice guy that no one wants to go out with me" tell me does this make sense?

Well, I've tried that theory with "I'm too much of a nice girl etc." and it did not make sense. So I guess for guys it doesn't make sense either...

But anyway, yeah, most guys suck. There's even a German pop group writing a song "Men are pigs"... it kinda became the hymn of a lot of girl!

No offense to the guys, tho: ya know, in the long run we just can't do without ya!

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Posted by DeadAnztac on Apr. 23 2001,05:33
Damn, thought I was a nice guy... I guess it's definitly a possibilty that I'm a jerk-off... I dunno, whenever I hurt ANYONES feelings I feel like an asshole for days, even people I don't like all that much. That's another thing, I don't dislike all that many people... maybe that's just tolerence though...
Posted by Wolfguard on Apr. 23 2001,11:53
Want to know the real problem with men?

God played a joke on us. He gave us 2 heads that can think on their own but only enough blood to use one at a time.

Then he made gravity.

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Posted by Chrissy on Apr. 23 2001,13:11
lol

I dont mean to sound like I hate men. I certainly do not. Its just recently Ive noticed this trend among guys. They think they are all nice but what they come to find out through self examination is that they are assholes.

This goes back to something I posted on another website on why women just want casual relationships (at least I do ) and that is because getting hurt basically sucks ass and who wants to. I got flamed so badly for saying that I only wanted casual relationships with guys.

What a double standard


Posted by Greasemonk on Apr. 23 2001,13:38
quote:
Originally posted by just_dave:
if thats the truth then why does every female tell me im to nice and good for them?

Here comes a flame

edit: not every just the ones I like??


They tell you this because its the EASIEST and LAMEST excuse on the planet. Usually when a chic tells me something stupid like this a little lightbulb in my brain lights up and tells me to "not really talk to them that much ever again." Most cases when chics say shit like that they end up telling you all about the action or disrespect they get from future guys. You become the shoulder to cry on and you will probably get suckered out of time and/or money. There are plenty of women in the world that like nice and good guys. Dont waste your time with chics who spew forth bullshit like that. If you stick around more bullshit will ensue.

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Posted by solid on Apr. 24 2001,05:10
quote:
Originally posted by Chrissy:
lol

I dont mean to sound like I hate men. I certainly do not. Its just recently Ive noticed this trend among guys. They think they are all nice but what they come to find out through self examination is that they are assholes.

This goes back to something I posted on another website on why women just want casual relationships (at least I do ) and that is because getting hurt basically sucks ass and who wants to. I got flamed so badly for saying that I only wanted casual relationships with guys.

What a double standard


I follow that trend but in my examination I find out I'm either an idiot/crazy/pessemistic.

But hey! At least I'm working on it!


And yes, I wont right now, but I'd flame you too if you said you only wanted casual relationships. Life's hardships rule! What the hell would you do without them- you sure as hell couldn't appreciate them without the bad relationships.

Like I said, I won't flame.. oh wait.. I kinda did!

(The number of smilies is cuz I realized all those could fit with my post.. HA!)

This message has been edited by solid on April 24, 2001 at 03:56 PM


Posted by WillyPete on Apr. 24 2001,10:06
In the words of my God of daily laughs:

My life: < http://sinfest.net/comics/sf20000210.gif >

Sithee's Life: < http://sinfest.net/comics/sf20000306.gif >

Chrissy listening to us: < http://sinfest.net/comics/sf20010107.gif >


Posted by CatKnight on Apr. 24 2001,12:12
haha thats good willypete. i need one for me now!
Posted by WillyPete on Apr. 24 2001,13:32
Alright CK, here ya go. As per your earlier comment about what women really mean. The things you left unsaid: < http://sinfest.net/comics/sf20000321.gif >
Posted by solid on Apr. 24 2001,15:22
HAHA.. ahh that's good.
Posted by Prometheus on Apr. 24 2001,15:31
quote:
Originally posted by askheaves:
... and they withhold all sorts of sex from you...

Sounds almost like Freudian slip, but I know it wasn't.

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Posted by CatKnight on Apr. 25 2001,00:15
nah that one doesn't fit me too well, that's not my problem. is there one about chicks wanting to be friends with you and telling you about how their b/f's suck but you're such a nice guy?
Posted by WillyPete on Apr. 26 2001,10:35
CK: a maybe. < http://sinfest.net/comics/sf20001027.gif >

A definite: < http://sinfest.net/comics/sf20000208.gif >


Posted by kuru on Apr. 30 2001,01:03
guys aren't assholes. not all of them, not even most of them.

the one thing i've really learned about guys after spending so much time hanging out with them is that though they may be socially inept a lot of the time, they don't really intend anything majorly bad.

they're getting a big mindfuck right now because of all the 'girls rule. boys drool.' stuff that's going on. the prevailing sterotype of the day is that men are assholes, when really they're just people tryin to get through life with a minimum of pain.

it's time for the stereotypes to go.

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Posted by askheaves on Apr. 30 2001,04:44
*clap clap clap*

That's why I like ya


Posted by Chrissy on Apr. 30 2001,11:48
um
Not everyone looks at "guys" the same way that you do kuru. And I have met a lot of asshole guys and my point was this-

All guys think they are nice guys even when they arent nice guys! No one wants to be thought of as an asshole and I think a lot of men have no idea how to treat women. I am with you on a lot of stuff (breaking down gender roles and stuff like that) but as far as men are concerned I think it has less to do with radical feminism and more to do with the male ego.

You are giving them an excuse to treat women like crap because you are blaming women for their lack of respect towards us. Im not down with that.

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Posted by solid on May 01 2001,02:10
quote:
Originally posted by kuru:
guys aren't assholes. not all of them, not even most of them.

the one thing i've really <Snip>


Right on


Posted by LazyGit on May 01 2001,05:04
Well, erm, duuuuh, ofcourse all guys think their nice guys. You don't honestly think Saddam Hussein parades around his palace going, 'Ahahahahaaaa, I'm the most evil person in the world. And I LOVE it! I think I'll go gas some more innocent people.' do you?

But wait, I might actually be on your side after all. Actual 'nice guys' (I know, I'm one of them) think they're asshole losers. Assholes think they're nice guys.

Kind of contradictory and confusing and possibly bullshit but I can only go from what I know.

Before I started going out with my girlfriend she called me 'a really nice guy' once and that kind of fucked me off because as someone's said before, when a girl calls a boy a nice guy it basically means, 'That ring in your pocket is a friendship ring isn't it? No, I'm telling you, it is'. But seeing as she's now my girlfriend none of this matters and frankly I don't care anyway, why am I still typing?
cheers


Posted by Dark Knight Bob on May 01 2001,05:08
everyones evil in some way. its how we're brought up to control it to a level of decency that decides whether we're a good person. if everyone was nice twood be all boring cos there'd be no kinky sex just plain old boring misionary cos that was natures way.

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Posted by Dark Knight Bob on May 01 2001,05:10
hmm i just realised that i posted the same idea in the same thread for a second time. oh well the second one was better
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