Topic: brainwashing a nation
started by: lykosis
Posted by lykosis on Jun. 19 2002,14:00
BRAINWASHING A NATION HOW THE TOTALITARIANS IMPOSE A DICTATORSHIP
By: Alan Stang
When the Soviet thugs started their racket, they used a characteristic routine to grab a country. First, they engineered a coup; they seized the government. Then, they used the power of the government to subvert and pervert the target country's institutions. Finally, when the institutions had become sufficiently rank, the country would fall like "overripe fruit" into their hands, in Lenin's phrase. In World War I Russia, they seized some buildings in one city, St. Petersburg, then known as Petrograd because of anti-German sentiment: the military barracks, the telephone exchange, etc. That was the entire "Russian Revolution." No one "rose up" to overthrow the Tsar, who, by the way, had already left.
In command of the telephones, the Communists made calls and gave orders. When people in cities across the country asked who was calling, the Reds told them it was the new government in the capital. The people didn't find out that they had "risen" in a "revolution" for some time, in some towns a long time. Then, the Communists used their new power to subvert and pervert Russian institutions. They did the same thing in central Europe; in Czechoslovakia, for instance, they defenestrated Jan Masaryk after World War II and seized power in a typical coup.
However, in planning the capture of the United States (and other Western nations) they realized that the usual tactics wouldn't work. The American government and system were too strong; the Reds realized they would never be able to seize it by force. Abraham Lincoln, the man who gave us a military dictatorship, and who, more than any other, sowed the seeds that became the gargantuan whore of Babylon that rules us today, said once that no invading enemy soldier could ever take a drink from the Ohio. We would live for all time, or perish by our own hand, according to Dishonest Abe.
Enter Antonio Gramsci, a founder of the Italian Communist Party. Gramsci reversed the traditional Communist scheme. He discarded the strategy of seizing the government and then subverting the institutions. Instead, Gramsci taught that the Communists now would subvert the institutions and then seize the government. The Reds refer to the "long march" through the target nation's institutions, harking back to the glory days of Communist terrorist Mao Tse Dung's Long March through China. So, how do the conspirators subvert a nation's institutions?
They destroy the target population's will to resist. By means of brainwashing, they make it difficult, and often impossible, for the target population to think certain thoughts. "Brainwashing" is the term devised by journalist Edward Hunter to describe the technique he saw applied in Communist-occupied China and during the Korean War on American POWs. Go to the library and read Ed Hunter's books. See whether anything sounds familiar. The conspirators have been brainwashing us Americans for decades. All of us are victims. I have been brainwashed and so have you.
That's preposterous! I have never been brainwashed even a little bit!
Really? Congratulations! But let me prove that you have been brainwashed after all. Remember Dick Gregory? Dick is a very smart man. He used to be a very funny man, when he was a comedian. Then someone told him he was an intellectual, and that he had to get serious, and he became unfunny. The same thing happened to Woody Allen.
Dick Gregory wrote his autobiography, and despite the entreaties of many good friends, insisted on entitling it, Nigger. Dick explained that, thenceforth, whenever anyone used that word--"Nigger"--his sainted mother in heaven would know that the speaker was discussing Dick's book. In your obedient servant's opinion this statement of the delightfully wholesome relationship Dick apparently enjoyed with his mother proves he is on the side of the angels. Be that as it may, notice that when your reporter uses the word "Nigger" in this paragraph, I am not making any allusions to race. I am not making some social comment. I am simply plugging Dick's book, Nigger, thereby making his mother happy. Also, every author loves it when people talk about his books. Please talk about mine. Dick's book is entitled Nigger.
Notice, however, that whenever you read the fatal word again and again in the preceding paragraph, you experienced a melange of emotions, modified of course by who you are, that probably included some level of anxiety, guilt (if you are white), fear, maybe even terror. You wanted your obedient servant to stop. You may have been afraid to keep reading, worried about what I would say next. You know that many of today's blacks use the word to address each other, but that knowledge does nothing to reassure you.
The turmoil you are feeling is evidence that you have been brainwashed to some extent; that the endless badgering 24/7 for decades has produced the desired effect--making it difficult, if not impossible to think certain thoughts. Remember the John Rocker incident of a couple of baseball seasons ago? John was excoriated non-stop by the Prostitute National Press for thinking such thoughts and expressing them! For your Intrepid Correspondent's analysis of the fiasco, go to my website and click on Commentary Archive.
Relax. It's over. Let's move on to something else. Notice something remarkably bizarre. We have been attacked by Muslims in the name of Islam. Our leaders have responded not only by apologizing for Islam, even coddling Islam--but also by allowing Islam to be taught in the government schools. Yes, it's happening in California. This is about as preposterous as it would have been had we extended the same courtesy to emperor worship after Pearl Harbor and to the occult Nazi religion.
Why have so many Americans fallen for this? (Not all, by any means, thank God.) They have fallen for it for two reasons: they feel guilty about what they are, and they don't believe anything themselves. They feel guilty because they have been told to feel guilty 24/7 for decades. If you feel guilty about what you are--rich, thin, male, white, etc.--you will be unable to defend yourself.
Why don't they believe anything? Because they have been taught not to believe anything in the nation's government schools. During World War II, we still believed. We were the Christian nation the U.S. Supreme Court said we were. Government school started the day with a prayer. Today, the only thing we believe is Do Your Own Thing. God has been outlawed and the nation has been spiritually crippled (at the top), with the predictable result that Islam is flooding in to fill the vacuum. Here is more proof that the nation has been brainwashed.
The conspirators use the same techniques over and over. They work. Preeminent among them is infiltration. Pretending to be loyal Americans, they enter government agencies and influential organizations, and subvert them. Soviet spy Alger Hiss, top State Department official, who ran the meeting that founded the Communist UN, was an (in)famous example.
In the present war, enemy agents are infiltrating the United States. Why is it that spokesmen for the terrorists are suddenly turning up all over the media? Why is it that mosques are turning up like toadstools? Is it just remotely possible that enemy agents would be tempted to use such institutions for various clandestine, terrorist purposes?
In every such "revolution," the terrorists seek to create the illusion of a mass movement. Just as the Soviets depicted their coup as the "Russian Revolution," so the terrorists we fight today try to create the impression that they have the unanimous support of the people they claim to represent. The terrorists exterminate any such people who work against them or even disagree.
In Algeria, in the 1950s, the Communist FLN said they were fighting to liberate the Muslims. Why was it then that most of the FLN's victims by far were the very Muslims the FLN claimed were rebelling? The answer is that the FLN were killing the Muslims to keep them in line, to make them shut up. If you are a man over 40 with a strong stomach, you can see photographs of the incredible atrocities perpetrated by Ahmed Ben Bella and his Communist gang on the Muslims he claimed to be advancing. Look at a document known as the Green Book, published at the time by the French government.
Now notice that terrorists in the Palestinian area controlled by Yassir Arafat recently lynched three of their own fellow Muslims. Why? What was their crime? The victims had been accused of cooperating with Israelis, of trying to make peace. Any such "crime" means a sentence of death. This could help explain, at least in part, why those Muslims who are not part of the terror combine have not spoken up. If you see the pictures in the Green Book, you too could be convinced. We are out of time again. In our next episode, we shall look at the most important question in the present war: Whom are we fighting? One of the basic rules of warfare is that if you don't know whom you are fighting, you will lose. And our government is fighting the wrong enemy. Be with us next week.
"It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds." - Samuel Adams
Posted by Wiley on Jun. 19 2002,15:22
I'm pretty sure I could come into power if I could take over Fox television for a week or two. There would be some mass brainwashing ..behind the ears and all.
Posted by TheTaxMan on Jun. 19 2002,15:52
All we need is a someone to fall into a pool of muddy water and this would be a complete farce.This is loaded, biased propagada. You're all brain washed! Fear the common citizen!
Woody Allen is still hilarious.
Nigger is a pointless word.
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| If you are a man over 40 with a strong stomach, you can see photographs of the incredible atrocities perpetrated by Ahmed Ben Bella and his Communist gang on the Muslims he claimed to be advancing. |
This makes no sense, and I have no idea why he thought about writing it. However, it seems the theme of the piece is making no sense. It would appear he succeeded.
I'm not quite sure what your reasons are for posting this, but I hope it's to point out how foolish some people are.
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| Our leaders have responded not only by apologizing for Islam, even coddling Islam--but also by allowing Islam to be taught in the government schools. Yes, it's happening in California. This is about as preposterous as it would have been had we extended the same courtesy to emperor worship after Pearl Harbor and to the occult Nazi religion. |
Occult Nazi Religion? Emporer Worship? Apparently this person doesn't know that one of the first things Nazi Germany did was get rid of religion. It doens't work in a dictatorship (unless it is religous fundementalist which Nazi's aren't...). And I forgot. It's wrong to teach people about Islam and all the muslims in the US should be ushered out in little black body bags. Allah Forbid people actually learn something. I could go on forever, but this essay is nothing more than the rantings of some pretencious know-it-all who thinks he has the answers.
edit: haha, all the islams..
Posted by Beldurin on Jun. 19 2002,18:37
Communist muslims? huh?The history lesson about the Russian revolution was mildly entertaining until he started saying that Islam should not be allowed in the US.
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| I'm pretty sure I could come into power if I could take over Fox television for a week or two. |
Ladies and gentlemen of detnet (and the rest of you), the truth has finally come out! Our own corporate whore, detnet's money-grubbing slut, Wiley is none other than
*dum, dum, dum*
Rupert Murdoch!
Don't even try to deny it Rupie...I'm on to you. Everyone! Fear the Rupert Murdoch! He's trying to infiltrate your home with second-rate programming and control your mind with needless graphics and animation in sporting events! Don't allow it! Ack...feeling...funny...must...watch...Simpsons...
AAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!
Posted by lykosis on Jun. 19 2002,18:47
i posted it cause i thought it was an interesting read...course, like any propoganda, it should be taken with a grain of salt...i wouldn't completey dismiss everything he wrote though.i thought he was referring to nazism in general as a 'religion'...
Posted by CatKnight on Jun. 19 2002,21:46
to see brainwashing going on now, just look at what is going on in the public school systems, and even higher education. i remember, just a few years ago while taking my religious studies course, how about 75% of the time was spent on learning about muslim culture and how peaceful it is and how superior it was to european culture. in fact, i can remember far more details about the ottoman empire then i can about the founding fathers. this kind of nonsense goes on all the time. even now I am still trying to learn the truth about the civil war, which we never were told in high school.
Posted by Uberkommando on Jun. 19 2002,21:51
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| second-rate programming |
Hey! Take that back! Family Guy rocked!
Posted by Darth Liberus on Jun. 19 2002,23:27
< "There's only one Communist party..." > -Senator Joe McCarthybut we're too civilized to have a witch hunt these days, right guys?
<silence>
....right?
Posted by Darth Liberus on Jun. 19 2002,23:37
catknight : that's not what they TAUGHT you. that's how you TOOK it.there are some people in this world who can't stand the idea that there may be interesting and civilized cultures other than their own... and therefore, they take anything that doesn't state that another culture is "inferior" as implicitly stating that the other culture is superior.
why? because they know their inbred asses can't handle REAL competition... and the walls that protected them are starting to fail.
I'm going to enjoy watching your "stupid bloated whites only" culture die, CK...
Posted by CatKnight on Jun. 20 2002,00:49
holy shit talk about slippery slopes...CATKNIGHT: I don't like public schools they teach history in a biased fashion.
DSL: catknight has a learning disability
catknight is a "culturalist"
catknight is inbred
catknight is a nazi
Posted by Darth Liberus on Jun. 20 2002,01:18
maybe my eyes are missing something, but I don't see any of those things said in my post.oh, wait, I get it... I must've implied them, right? In the same way they implied all those horrible things in school?
I'd like to point out that "brainwashing" is damn near impossible in an open society. Misleading people, yes... but brainwashing? That is hard even in a totalitarian society.
Give me a fucking break.
This isn't 1984, people.
Posted by CatKnight on Jun. 20 2002,06:27
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| In the same way they implied all those horrible things in school? |
I stated that they explicitly taught that. If you want, I could try to find the textbook (I saw someone walking around with one up here) and grab some quotes.
DSL you are never going to win an argument simply by twisting my words. now sit the fuck down.
Posted by Darth Liberus on Jun. 20 2002,06:32
| Quote (CatKnight @ 19 June 2002,16:49) |
| DSL: catknight has a learning disability catknight is a "culturalist" catknight is inbred catknight is a nazi |
four things I never said.
who is twisting whose words around?
edit: I did use the word "inbred," though it was obvious that I meant it as an insult and not a fact.
for the record, I have never used the word "culturalist" in my entire life.
Posted by demonk on Jun. 20 2002,06:38
| Quote (CatKnight @ 19 June 2002,13:46) |
| even now I am still trying to learn the truth about the civil war, which we never were told in high school. |
The reason they never tell you the truth is beacuse it isn't as romantic or as "good vs. evil" kind of war (which non really are).
It was almost completely about money. Even the slave issue was about money. The slave industry was a multimillion dollar, if not more, industry. The South was largely agricultural, and they produced way more than the country needed, so they exported it to other countried, which they made a lot of money off of. But the North was mostly manufacturing. In order to give localy produced goods an advantage over imported goods, they wanted large import tarrifs placed on all imported goods. But that would have resulted in the other countries placing large import tarrifs on things we exported (mainly foodstuff). This would have led to less money for the South. So, the South and the North had a hard time existing. War was inevitable.
So, as you can see, it wasn't as simple or romantic as the "war to free the slaves" we are taught in high school. Besides, 95% of students wouldn't understand the complexities of the whole situation, so it would have just been wasted time.
Posted by wix on Jun. 20 2002,06:57
| Quote (CatKnight @ 19 June 2002,22:27) |
| DSL you are never going to win an argument simply by twisting my words. now sit the fuck down. |
Personally, I think he's doing a pretty good job.
Posted by wix on Jun. 20 2002,07:18
Random Rants and why Alan Stang is an idiot.| Quote |
| Abraham Lincoln, the man who gave us a military dictatorship, and who, more than any other, sowed the seeds that became the gargantuan whore of Babylon that rules us today, said once that no invading enemy soldier could ever take a drink from the Ohio. We would live for all time, or perish by our own hand, according to Dishonest Abe. |
Why spend a whole paragraph to pointlessly attack Abraham Lincoln. I suppose the author read another point of view, decided wow, I'm enlightened, and now Abe's an ass. This sounds pretty, I'll put it in my essay. ... pfft.
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| ... We have been attacked by Muslims in the name of Islam. Our leaders have responded not only by apologizing for Islam, even coddling Islam--but also by allowing Islam to be taught in the government schools. ... This is about as preposterous as it would have been had we extended the same courtesy to emperor worship after Pearl Harbor and to the occult Nazi religion. |
Okay this is the part that confuses me, first he says that we can't subject ourselves to propaganda and brainwashing, and then he argues that the government needs to censor us because of what a fringe terrorist asshole did to our country. To me, all I read is de facto brainwashing.
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| Why don't they believe anything? Because they have been taught not to believe anything in the nation's government schools. |
Exactly the point DSL was making, It's fascinating to me that the author would even bring this up. We are taught not to trust everything thrown at us, because in an open society we can TAKE whatever we want and learn from it.
I didn't just settle for what my teachers told me, I've read Howard Zinn, or Dye and Zigler, but I don't just take what they tell me for truth either. That's why in an open society the statement, "I don't like public schools they teach history in a biased fashion," is dumb. Being skeptical and changeable isn't a sin, nor is it bad. I define a rational person as someone who would change their mind being presented with evidence or good reason to do so. Too many people are stuck believing one thing simply "because."
Bias exists on all sides. If you don't teach a muslim perspective you teach a christian perspective. The best way to solve for it is to make both available in a free fashion, and beat the shit out of both in the classroom. The skeptic has the ability to find out, the believer has the ability to believe reguardless (eg, those irrational people), and the poor bastard in the middle who is wishy washy and doesn't care, well... he doesn't care.
Posted by lykosis on Jun. 20 2002,14:52
wix, you seem like a well read intelligent type person, and i salute your ability to debate. so, i'd like your opinion on two questions.what percentage of the world population to think is "rational" by your definition?
what percentage of the USA?
not a trick question...i'm not trying to lead you down any road to futher debate you...i'm genuinly curious of your thoughts on this.
Posted by wix on Jun. 20 2002,18:29
| Quote (lykosis @ 20 June 2002,06:52) |
| wix, you seem like a well read intelligent type person, and i salute your ability to debate. so, i'd like your opinion on two questions. what percentage of the world population to think is "rational" by your definition? what percentage of the USA? not a trick question...i'm not trying to lead you down any road to futher debate you...i'm genuinly curious of your thoughts on this. |
I would be very hesitant to just make up some numbers of who is rational. I really don't have any idea. My ex-girlfriend for instance wasn't rational. We would argue, and it would eventually break down to "I don't know why I believe it, I just do!" That sort of thing is illogical. I personally have express distaste for those who so easily follow the demogouge.
Posted by CatKnight on Jun. 20 2002,19:52
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| It was almost completely about money. |
more importantly, states rights versus federal government.
Posted by kuru on Jun. 20 2002,20:33
The second biggest monetary reason for the Civil War was that nobody could just wave a wand and free the slaves and have it be done with.The slave owners were citizens of this country, and the slaves were considered property, so for the federal government to have just passed a law and freed them all, they would've had to provide just compensation to the owners for the loss of their 'property'.
That would easily have bankrupted the nation; however, since the south seceeded from the Union, the federal government could emancipate the slaves (who now belonged to people that didn't consisder themselves citizens and therefore had no expectation of just compensation).
The war between the states was the ultimate end-run. and it's amazing that it worked.
Posted by lykosis on Jun. 20 2002,20:47
alright wix, no numbers...just another simple (yeah right) question for you.do you think there are more rational people in the world...or irrational?
just based on your experiences...
Posted by Bob_the_Cannibal on Jun. 20 2002,21:38
damn, wix, well said.
Posted by Darth Liberus on Jun. 24 2002,01:41
| Quote (lykosis @ 20 June 2002,12:47) |
| do you think there are more rational people in the world...or irrational? |
that's a trick question, wix. there are so many differing notions of what is "rational" that the question is insanely loaded. don't answer it.
here is a replacement:
do you think people are reasonable or unreasonable?
"reasonable" simply means that you can be reasoned with.
Posted by Necromancer on Jun. 24 2002,03:03
it's at times like these that i can lean back in my leather chair light up a high quality hamlet cigar. open up a bottle of my finest ale all provided by free capitalism and gothis is a very deep thread
then go back to my cigar and ale.
who needs conversation when you've got fags and booze.
don't disrespect ignorance for all society needs it. without it we'd never get anything done. we'd spend too much time thinking and not enough doing.
Posted by lykosis on Jun. 24 2002,21:51
the question isn't loaded...i asked his opinion...an opinion can only be taken as an opinion.but fine...we'll use 'reasoanble' instead of 'rational'.
Posted by Darth Liberus on Jun. 24 2002,23:58
wasn't trying to flame you, just keeping things on track 
/me goes to start a new topic about this...