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Topic: Environmental Issues
started by: TheTaxMan

Posted by TheTaxMan on Jun. 03 2002,23:56

These are not myths that some hippy came up with while he was high. These are realities. Your car heats up in the sun, not becasue the sun "shines brighter" on all cars than everywhere else, but because glass produces the greenhouse effect. Carbon Dioxide does the same thing.

There is a whole in the ozone layer that is getting larger all the time.

Is there anyone out there that believes this is all a conspiracy to take their disel burning trucks away?

Posted by editor on Jun. 04 2002,00:10

Hey Umm, TM.

I hate diesels.
They sure run good, though.

Word.

Posted by CatKnight on Jun. 04 2002,01:55

the surface of the earth is not covered by man made glass

and the ozone hole only gets larger in the winter, but it has been getting less large recently. nasa doesn't have enough data to show one way or the other what the cause of the ozone hole is.

man-made CO2 only accounts for 1% of the CO2 in the atmosphere. CO2 only accounts for 1% of the gas in the atmosphere. so basically you are complaining about 1 ten-thousandth of the atmosphere. even this amount is not proven to be doing anything.

there have been periods of cooling and heating of the earth before the industrial revolution.

the best solution to any problem that man made pollutants might have is to allow the united states to continue normal production. free markets --> higher prosperity --> cleaner environment. government restrictions --> lower prosperity --> dirtier industries.

Posted by damien_s_lucifer on Jun. 04 2002,02:11

has anyone noticed how simple CK's world is?

what does that say about his mind?

Posted by chmod on Jun. 04 2002,02:31

I guess we're throwing the whole idea of a forum section free of trolls/flames/personal attacks entirely out the window, since apparently the moderator himself has dropped to that level.

Posted by CatKnight on Jun. 04 2002,04:20

he probably staged the whole me deleting posts things just so he could drop me from admin status so he could troll with impunity. maybe we'll get lucky and kuru will delete it...

Posted by editor on Jun. 04 2002,05:02

Umm....

Posted by damien_s_lucifer on Jun. 04 2002,06:09

that's a pretty serious accusation there, CK.

and out of left field, if you ask me.

while i'm sure someone staged your "disappearing" post(s), I'm also sure it wasn't me.

let me remind you that while you have been caught several times editing and/or deleting someone's post inappropriately, I never have.

probably has something to do with the fact that I've never done either of those. I'm like Kuru; I prefer to use <moderator>...</moderator> rather than "edit" and "delete."

if you piss me off to the point where I think action is necessary, I just chew you out and drop your priveleges.

Meanwhile, the logs show a very high amount of activity from you... and oddly enough, they're all deletes.

Do you wish to retract your statement?

Posted by demonk on Jun. 04 2002,07:01

A very conservative friend of mine informed me today that the Bush administration came out today and admitted that global warming is occuring and that we as a country must do something to stop it. He heard this on the news (I missed it), and was wondering if anyone else heard this. I think it's great that our leaders can finally admit that all the scientists out there that have been gathering data for years and years and have devoted their entire lives to studying this subject were right all along. After all, until and the administration currently in power says it's true, it's all just a big hippy lie.

Posted by CatKnight on Jun. 04 2002,20:34

hey DSL, we already discussed that, now we are discussing your off-topic troll. You unsuccessfully tried to divert attention away from it by flaming me yet again.

So, do you wish to retract YOUR statement?

Posted by veistran on Jun. 04 2002,21:00

demonk, < http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin....596.DTL >

Posted by damien_s_lucifer on Jun. 04 2002,21:40

Quote

From my own rules regarding personal attacks:
I think we can allow ad hominem attacks as long as they're witty. Good mudslinging is half the fun of politics; it makes us all try harder to nail our opponets. It's when it gets insipid or below the belt that it fucks up the debate.

So.

My post was good-humored.

You accusing me of deleting your posts was not. Especially when I have the logs to prove the opposite.

You are no longer moderator in this forum, and you will not have your status returned. Period.

Any further attempts on your part to insinuate that I have been manipulating this forum for personal gain will be deleted, and further disciplinary action will be considered.

This topic is hereby closed.

Posted by damien_s_lucifer on Jun. 04 2002,21:40