Forum: Geek Forum
Topic: really odd
started by: veistran

Posted by veistran on Dec. 28 2001,22:38
So a friend of mine is helping a friend of his...

The guy had XP installed, decided it was too fruity for him and wants to go back to 98se. Reformats, installs 98se, everythings working fine, but wait. IE isn't accepting cookies, so he gets my friend to help him, check settings, all good, shouldn't be a problem. Updates everything, still can't get IE to accept cookies, so they download and install Opera, it won't accept cookies either? After a few hours of various attempts to resolve the problem my friend goes into the BIOS and resets it. Tada, cookies are working, anyone have some insight on why that worked? I'm stumped my friend is stumed and his friend is stumped.

Other weirdness, when he re-installed 98se, it didn't have to detect any of his hardware, but after they reset the BIOS it did have to do the new hardware thing.

edit: just for clarity, the reformat was a low level reformat, btw
Posted by ic0n0 on Dec. 28 2001,23:18
xp is weird, i never use it.
Posted by kornalldaway on Dec. 29 2001,00:11
first of all, why would anybody do a low level reformat
btw, that can be the first problem
most modern ide hard drives do not allow low level format and when performed can be completely broken
as for the bios, just one conflict or wrong setting can be cause a lot of problems with the system
such as virus protection in the bios can prevent windows 95/98 from installing
and so on
without seeing the initial setting and knowing what exactly wasn't detected from his hardware can't really say much more

< http://www.hitachi.com/opstore....#format >
< http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/geom/formatUtilities-c.html >

just something about low level format and what people commonly mistake it for
Posted by veistran on Dec. 29 2001,01:01
The computer was working fine in Win XP, and in 98se except that IE wasn't accepting cookies when he re-installed 98se. Also, he did two "regular" reformats and re-partitions before doing the low level reformat. As far as virus protection, none was enabled in the BIOS. As far as low level reformatting, read your own links man, your confusing your low level reformats.

"Q: Can SpinRite low-level format my IDE, EIDE, or SCSI drive?


A: All modern drives employ "embedded servo" head positioning systems which have made field reformatting of drives both unnecessary and impossible. The low-level format command in modern drives simply erases the drive's data, but it does not actually re-format the track since doing so would erase the factory servoing and sector relocation information. SpinRite 5.0 still contains all of the technology and logic to non-destructively low-level reformat any drives which allow this to be done, but it will not do so when the action is deliberately prevented by the drive itself. Thus, SpinRite does everything it can in every situation, but will never endanger the drive's data."

< http://techsoup.coolboard.com/discuss....2828827 >
Posted by kornalldaway on Dec. 29 2001,01:28
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... The low-level format command in modern drives simply erases the drive's data ...

that is technically the new low level reformat
but i was refering to the original low level reformat
simply erasing drive's data is nothing like what low level format was intended to be. i did low level reforamt before, many times. and now when people call erasing all data from the hard drive a LLF it gets anoying simply because it's not
Posted by Dark Knight Bob on Dec. 31 2001,02:47
my kt7a mobo drivers disk came with a factory low level formatting tool so see if anyones using a similiar board and they should have the program for it.

cant remember if spinrite does a LLF
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