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Topic: Over Clocking
started by: Sithiee

Posted by Sithiee on Apr. 12 2001,11:49

ok, im planning to overclock my new processor soon (duron 800) and im wonder if theres some sort of really nice/complete guide to it. basically the dummy's guide to overclocking. so yeah, thanks for any help.

Posted by a.out on Apr. 12 2001,19:26

I have the same processor, and I have it overlocked to 950, with no problems whatsoever. You probably have a KT133 based motherboard, so the faq at < http://go.to/kt7faq > should be pretty helpful for any issues you have. They have a bunch of links to helpful overclocking information in the overclocking section.

I suggest that you definately unlock the multiplier (close the L1 bridges with a pencil - more info in the faq above). It's much easier than worrying whether the peripherals can handle a higher clock speed.

Also, you need a good fan. I had a coolermaster, but it just didn't cut it, so I got a Taisol CGK742092, which is the best option if you don't want to pay unreasonable amounts. It was ฬ after shipping from kdcomputers.com, but check < www.pricewatch.com > for any better deals.

Posted by kai on Apr. 12 2001,19:50

head on over to < azzo >
you can get a good mobo/ram/proc combo with durons. i got my 650@950 there.

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Posted by just_dave on Apr. 13 2001,05:18

about the only sites that i think would even be close to helpful are < www.overclockers.com > or < www.overclockers.com.au >
... hope it helps

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Posted by Dark Knight Bob on Apr. 14 2001,02:21

i have a FOP-38 fan on my duron 700. mine goes to 900 easy even but i like the sound of an f-16 coming from my pc. 48 decibels is loud not that i fucking care seeing as my life is over.

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Posted by Sithiee on Apr. 14 2001,02:46

yeah, i have one of those fans on the new thermoengine heatsink. i got my duron 800 to 920, but my board wont go higher than that

. it runs at a cool 91, and if i push it (by say, playing cs), it only goes to 95

Posted by a.out on Apr. 14 2001,03:33

I highly recommend that Taisol fan I mentioned in my previous post. It is VERY good, and fairly quiet too. Oh, and whatever you do, DON'T go with any of the chrome/blue/gold/crap/shit orb fans that seem to be somewhat popular. They are not better than any average fan, and they will NOT fit on a KT7 motherboard if that is what you have.

Posted by kai on Apr. 14 2001,03:49

quote:
Originally posted by Dark Knight Bob:
fucking care seeing as my life is over.

did i(we) miss something?

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Posted by askheaves on Apr. 14 2001,04:26

PIII 800 @ 936

GoldenOrb by ThemalTake blowing into a case exhaust fan. Not very loud, and about 4 hours of CS will push the temp up to about 140 F. Task switch out, and wait 60 seconds, back under 100 F again.

Posted by Dark Knight Bob on Apr. 15 2001,22:31

the only good orb is a dead orb!!!

the only thing i have ever found good about the orb series is the blue orb for use on cooling the northbridge or for overclocking a graphics card(cos they look cool) all the other orbs just dont do the job for the price you pay. they're not much better than the generic crap you get with a package pc

Posted by TheGreatFat on Apr. 16 2001,01:11

1 of my mates has a duron 700 (first edition) running at a constant 900 mhz. The only cooling is having the case off and three extra case fans. He has had it at 1 ghz with the same cooling but there were a couple of crashes. He now runs it at around 900 - 950
I have a PIII 667 and i'm running that at 750.

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Posted by Blowgoats on Apr. 16 2001,01:31

Shit! I wish I had the fucking money for all that shit!! I'm still running an AMD K6-2 350mhz. I've got 320 Megs of ram so it's all good...

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Posted by jim on Apr. 16 2001,12:19

quote:
Originally posted by Dark Knight Bob:
the only good orb is a dead orb!!!

DKB shut up with that jibba jabba!

Golden Orbs are awesome! You can pick one up for about 8 bucks and they cool up 10 degrees more than a stock heatsink fan! 4600RPMS of sweet sweet lovin! I have 2 Golden Orbs AND a blue orb in my pc and my procs never goes over 110. 2 PIII 866's @ 1.01 GHZ

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Posted by L33T_h4x0r_d00d on Apr. 16 2001,23:37

quote:
Originally posted by Sithiee:
and a liquid nitrogen cooling system, and OC both to 3 ghz

What? Are you stupid? You use liquid HYDROGEN to get to 3 ghz. Duh.

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Posted by ASCIIMan on Apr. 17 2001,00:48

You're both wrong... You submerse the whole thing in a bigass pool of 3M's Fluorinert(tm) and cool the Fluorinert FC-77 pool with a radiator and tubing circulating a separate Fluorinert FC-87 solution through to another radiator immersed in a replenishable pool liquid nitrogen or cooled by other alternate means. THAT's how you get it to 6 GHz (with the whole thing cooled down to liquid nitrogen temp, or down to -110 C if you use alternate cooling methods).

Edit: You could also use Novec HFE-7100 to cool down to -135 C, although the thermal conductivity isn't as great, so you might want to keep using the Fluorinert for the pool if the heat conductivity of the Novec isn't sufficient.

This message has been edited by ASCIIMan on April 17, 2001 at 07:55 PM

Posted by Sithiee on Apr. 17 2001,01:49

quote:
Originally posted by L33T_h4x0r_d00d:
What? Are you stupid? You use liquid HYDROGEN to get to 3 ghz. Duh.

yeah...and then i would blow my ass out the window and down the street, through 3 parked cars.

Posted by Blaine on Apr. 17 2001,03:02

quote:
Originally posted by Sithiee:
...and a liquid nitrogen cooling system, and OC both to 3 ghz

I was going to post something about this before, but then my account died. According to this site < http://www.overclockers.com/tips422/ > some guy got his thunderbird OVER 2 GHz using a liquid nitrogen cooling system. It has pics and everything, kind of cool.

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This message has been edited by Blaine on April 17, 2001 at 10:04 PM

Posted by Sithiee on Apr. 17 2001,05:18

i was lookin around today, and it seems that amd will have dual palominos whenever they come out...i think ill get one...err, 2 of those...and a liquid nitrogen cooling system, and OC both to 3 ghz

Posted by Sithiee on Apr. 17 2001,08:45

thats fucking awesome...i want to do that.

Posted by Neophyre on Apr. 17 2001,09:30

obviously the people who have money to throw around!

god damn that is sweet.

im still running on my p166mhz mmx

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Posted by Dark Knight Bob on Apr. 17 2001,22:06

slight problem with overclocking that high. when you OC a chip to 2ghz+ when it isnt designed for that high it'll start emmiting micro-waves that'll slowly fry your brain. pretty much the same ones that come out of your microwave oven. oh yeah and when we get to 1.4 ghz its gonna fuck up the universal background radiation cos thats one of the main frequencies that scientists monitor so everyone wait until they make a 1.5 ghz or OC it past 1.4 ok?

Posted by kai on Apr. 18 2001,02:41

quote:
Originally posted by ASCIIMan:
You're both wrong... You submerse the whole thing in a bigass pool of 3M's Fluorinert(tm)

do you have any idea how much that shit costs? you could spend more on that shit then on your system.

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Posted by Dark Knight Bob on Apr. 18 2001,02:54

if you think like that then you dont deserve to be an overclocker

you'er not a true OC master until you've spent half your life savings getting a 486 up to pII standards

Posted by aventari on Apr. 22 2001,01:32

So did you end up going for it Sith? how far were ya able to OC?

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Posted by Sithiee on Apr. 22 2001,01:43

well i started at 920....and thats where i am right now, its fine, but i cant get it any higher, cause aparently i bought a mobo with a max of 115 fsb....im gonna get an electrical pen and see if i can change the cpu multiplier to 10 though...

Posted by WillyPete on Apr. 24 2001,14:17

Useful little thing here: < http://www.plycon.com/trace.htm >

Essentially it's a little piece of tape with built in conductive strips that does the same job as the conducting pencil without frying out when your proc gets hot.

Posted by Dark Knight Bob on Apr. 24 2001,15:43

abit kt7a-raid man only need to close the L1 bridges on an amd cos you can set the multipliers in the bios plus the fsb goes to 133mhz and above

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Posted by kixzor2 on Apr. 28 2001,11:05

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Posted by kai on Apr. 28 2001,20:44

does anyone have any good idea's for making a cheap water block? oh and will saulder hold back water well?

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Posted by aventari on Apr. 29 2001,17:24

sorry for the size, but it's so you can get a good look at the waterblock.

I made it using a flat piece of stock aluminum cut to the same length and width as the heatsink. I measured where the heatsink studs went through the SECC card and drilled holes for through-bolts there in the aluminum.
To make the reservoir, I cut off the bottom of a small plastic bottle and siliconed it to the plate with aquarium sealant. I also siliconed 2 copper tubes to the reservoir for input and output. pretty simple stuff

It cooled *okay*. however if I put ice in the water, I could run an easy 464 at 2.6 volts, but at room temp it would only go 450 @ 2.3.

I made this about 2 years ago before you could actually buy a heatsink block. After I took it off, I modified a regular p2 heatsink to fit the celery and stuck a big pentium fan on the backside. This actually cooled better than the h2o cooler. but was a hell of a lot louder.

Another idea i had was to make a block out of the air-cooled heatsink. I would cut plexiglass to seal in the sides and top of the fins, and then flow water over the fins. I thought this would work much better, but never got a chance to try it.

If your going through this much trouble, I would recommend you lap your proccessor and heatsink and throw some arctic silver on there before you do anything else. When you lap make SURE you have a flat surface. I use a 50lb slab of granite, but a big peice of glass would be fine.

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Posted by Dark Knight Bob on Apr. 29 2001,19:30

well my cpu's running average 27 celcius and system the same. this weekend i'll see how far i can push the hardware and see how much the temps stay down.

tip: i think the fact that i've got about 8 fans including system and mobo fans running so i think it should stay cool >:]

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