Forum: Geek Forum
Topic: System Lockdown
started by: TonyDennis

Posted by TonyDennis on Aug. 23 2001,18:16
Here at school the system is heavily locked down. They have a program installed named 'Deep Freeze.' Essentially, it has a master image of the harddrive, and whenever you boot up, it reverts to the old copy; Thereby deleting anything saved on the local drive.

So I have two questions: Has anyone had this problem before and how did you get rid of it? I looked in the default startup files (win.ini, autoexec.bat, etc.) but couldn't find it. Then I tried to open RegEdit, but I get an error, "Registry Editing has been disabled by your System Administrator."

Anyone know how to get past that?

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Taken from MS System Information (Software/Startup Programs):

code:

Program Location Command
DepFrz Registry (Machine Service) C:\Program Files\HyperTechnologies\Deep Freeze\DepFrz.exe /s

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This message has been edited by TonyDennis on August 24, 2001 at 01:31 PM


Posted by incubus on Aug. 23 2001,19:36
boot into DOS and rename the DepFrz.exe ?
Posted by Dark Knight Bob on Aug. 23 2001,20:13
break into the admin office and replace the master img with GB's worth of pr0n!

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Posted by damien_s_lucifer on Aug. 23 2001,20:31
two words : boot disk.
Posted by TonyDennis on Aug. 23 2001,20:37
Hah, why didn't I think of that?

But I am curious still about the error message, because I used to get it when I'd try to go into Control Panel, or the Display dialog, etc. Is there any way around that?


Posted by blanalex on Aug. 23 2001,22:25
Well, only regedit in interactive mode and it's siblings that are locked out. Every other program can access the whole registry in read/write, you can even make yourself some .reg files to overwrite the key you want.

However, I work for a schoolboard that is using deep freeze, and pretty every change you could make to any file will be revert back at the next boot unless you got the admin password. I haven't tried deep freeze myself because I only got Macs as clients (hello Assimilator! Resistance is futile!), but if you make any changes while the deamon is watching (remember, the first time you erase it, the deamon will be watching you), it will be erased.

YMMV, because I haven't tried myself, but some other techs at the schoolboard and said it was rather foolproof. In fact, I think your only solution is a boot floppy/cd.

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Posted by TonyDennis on Aug. 26 2001,18:21
Indeed it was. I foolishly tried to rename the file from within Windows, while it was in use, and was obviously unsuccessful. I thought about getting a program to kill the thread, because I couldn't seem to boot into DOS mode, but figured it was just so much easier with the bootdisk.

So that's what I did. I made a boot disk, renamed the file, rebooted, and wah-lah, no more Deep Freeze. So much for 'fool proof' :P

I did it all at school. They didn't even block the control panel on this machine, how moronic! I suppose I could have even uninstalled the software (Add/Remove Programs).

So now I'm downloading a bunch of my mp3s from my server at home, installing all the shit I want to run, etc. It's awesome.

I still can't get into RegEdit though. I don't really have a need to, but I'm still curious... anyone?

Thanks, by the way.

This message has been edited by TonyDennis on August 27, 2001 at 01:25 PM


Posted by WillyPete on Aug. 29 2001,11:33
It's a system policy that's in place.
If you can access floppies on the system, copy poledit from the tools section of your Win95/98 cd. Look for an *.adm file on your home system and copy it over.
Open poledit on the target machine and try and open the current user; or was it local machine? can't remember - don't have time to chack. You'll find it. That way you can check the settings for the regedit.


Posted by TonyDennis on Aug. 30 2001,05:20
Hmm, I'll have to try that. The system still reverts back to the hold copy of the harddrive when I boot up. I can't figure it out, there aren't any non-MicroSoft products in the startup, but Novell starts up anyway. The Deep Freeze program doesn't run, so I guess that wasn't what blocked the system from new installs.

*sigh*

I got into RegEdit by using /run regedit.exe from mIRC.


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