Forum: Geek Forum
Topic: Stupid Computer
started by: smartsnake
Posted by smartsnake on Apr. 05 2001,23:40
Do you guys have any possible answers to why the hell my computer restarts itself? thx for any help
Posted by Dark Knight Bob on Apr. 06 2001,00:30
erm your copious porn printouts are leant up against the reset button or you've just got windows installed
Posted by DuSTman on Apr. 06 2001,01:20
I had something like that happen to mine once - I had the voltage a little too high on the processor and it was overheating..You might try checking that. Another thing, from the days when atari STs ruled, was i noticed if you connected a certain two of the joystick pins it would spontaneously reboot.. I found a similar thing with a friends sega mega drive..
Posted by smartsnake on Apr. 06 2001,01:34
ok im a total lam0r how do i check the voltege to the processor?
Posted by askheaves on Apr. 06 2001,01:35
If you're running Win2K or NT, then it's probably having some sort of BSOD problem and your recovery settings have automatic reboot happening. Your option? Turn off that setting, and watch as you get a blue screen, and then have to manually hit the reset button.Or hunt down the real cause. That needs to happen regardless.
Posted by Observer on Apr. 06 2001,01:43
I once had an STB Velocity128 which would reset on BSODs when I used STB's drivers.------------------
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Posted by daem0n on Apr. 08 2001,01:02
to check the voltage, look in the back of the puter, and it's a little switch next to the power cable input.------------------
Posted by CatKnight on Apr. 08 2001,03:08
lol no...that's the power supply voltage! the cpu voltage is in the bios.
Posted by SimplyModest on Apr. 08 2001,18:49
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Originally posted by daem0n:
same difference.
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Posted by just_dave on Apr. 08 2001,20:26
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Originally posted by daem0n:
same difference.
sorry its not the same.... its in the bios.....
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Posted by DeadAnztac on Apr. 08 2001,21:32
Great explaination! The voltage we're talking about is the kind that goes to the CPU :-) My suggestion, if you have a good motherboard look in your bios and maybe it has tempture readings, it sounds like your processor is overheating. What kind of proc is it?
Posted by damien_s_lucifer on Apr. 09 2001,00:04
in my experience (over 5000 repaired  ) I've found that mysterious, random reboots can almost always be traced to a faulty power supply. Predictable reboots are another matter entirely. Hope this helps.
Posted by damage on Apr. 09 2001,03:06
I agree with damien. I had that same kinda prob. A solid power supply fixed and a few other probs.Oh, and BTW, daem0n. OH MY FUCKING GOD YOU COMPLETE FUCKING MORON!!! ------------------
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Posted by daem0n on Apr. 09 2001,05:43
same difference.
Posted by smartsnake on Apr. 09 2001,13:49
my processor is an AMD K6-2------------------
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Posted by askheaves on Apr. 09 2001,15:24
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Originally posted by smartsnake:
my processor is an AMD K6-2
You're overheating. That's not a very good chip, and it's touchy about heat, while generating quite a bit of it. The parents got a K6-2, and it overheated all the time (granted, a cord was stopping the fan). My work computer had a bad memory stick. That pissed me off. Gateway did the folger's switch thing OK, I have nowhere else to go with this. AMDs have always been picky chips. Power supply is a good suspect to me. Also, see if there's a screw resting on the motherboard. That also causes problems.
Posted by damage on Apr. 09 2001,16:15
What speed is the proc.? You might want to try clocking it down abit to make it run cooler. I had the same prob with an amd k6-2. Also, what bus speed are you running? The k6-2's had a HUGE problem with 100Mhz backplanes.------------------
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Posted by damien_s_lucifer on Apr. 10 2001,05:37
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Originally posted by smartsnake:
my processor is an AMD K6-2
yep, those DO overheat. Besides the power supply, check the CPU fan and voltage. Post your CPU speed and I can tell you the official voltage... but with those chips it's often a good idea to DROP the voltage a bit. (i.e. if it's specced at 2.3, run it at 2.2 or even 2.1 if you can).
Posted by Sketchy on Apr. 11 2001,01:24
That's very odd. I'm having the same random reboot problem. However I've narrowed the problem down to the fact that I'm running Windows98. Ahh, good old formatting time again. =)
Posted by smartsnake on Apr. 11 2001,01:53
450 megahertz...just so everyone knows i really suck at this shit and have no idea how to overclock
Posted by DuSTman on Apr. 11 2001,02:26
Some K6 series chips have multiple specified operating voltages (difference in manufacturing process, i suppose), my chip, the k6-3-450 was at the higher of the two voltages, and when I switched it to the lower it became stable..I also note from the AMD web site that there are similarly k6-2-450s with different voltages. How you check/change this depends on the motherboard, some allow you to change it in the BIOS, whereas with others clock speed/ is determined by jumpers on the motherboard. It can't hurt to check if this is correct for your processor (the correct voltage is marked on the top), but it may require invasive surgery...
Posted by Spydir Web on Apr. 11 2001,02:40
... I've been running my AMD K6-2 366MHz forever, and it's never been my problem (I think). I used to figure it was Win98 fucking up when I ran that on here, and then when I switched to Linux and the only time I rebooted was because power blacking out I figured it was just that. I dunno, I must have the magical k6-2...------------------
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Posted by ASCIIMan on Apr. 11 2001,09:50
Actually, Spydir, it could still have been heat. Win9x likes to run NOP commands while in idle (equivalent to telling the processor to move whatever is in one of its registers to the same register, e.g. nothing), while WinNT, Win2K, and Linux like to run HLT (or was it HALT?) commands while in idle (equivalent to temporarily shutting down most of the processor). This means that Win9x will consistantly run hotter than WinNT/2K or Linux as long as you're not running your CPU at 100\% (in which case the temps should be the same).
Posted by askheaves on Apr. 11 2001,15:04
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Originally posted by ASCIIMan:
HLT (or was it HALT?)
Almost positive it's HLE. Don't know what it stands for, but that was a good explanation. I didn't realize that Win9X used NOPs, and I had no idea what Lunix used. Anybody know when they introduced HLE? Pentium 60? Probably why Win95 runs on a 486, but I don't think NT will.
Posted by ASCIIMan on Apr. 11 2001,16:37
NT runs on a 486... damn slow, though. And good luck trying to cram the required amount of memory into any 486 mobo. Not sure about 2k though (yes, I know 2k = NT5). Haven't tried that yet.
Posted by beuges on May 13 2001,17:55
Ya, NT4 ran on my 486dx33 with 16mb of ram. It couldn't do anything else, tho
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