Forum: Geek Forum
Topic: The DetNet adventure game in the works
started by: whtdrgn_2

Posted by whtdrgn_2 on Mar. 17 2001,14:10
Hey folks, thats right you heard it hear first, the DetNet adventure games is in the works. I am looking for anyone that an submit plot design, and if anyone has l33t Java skills (Applet design only), then give me a ring (whtdrgn@cannet.com). So far I have the basic form, and menu bar system worked out. I have how the game is going to go (this is a text based game - oh yea - and I have what I think will be good controls). Like you might have fugured out from above, this is a Java applet so it will run in a web browser. It is text based, so all you old guys will love it.

The plot so far...

Cr0bar a l33t hax0r is on a quest for the ultimate fragg. He will have to buy and build the ultimate l33t box to bust out his phat fraggs. He starts off with what most colledge kids have (NOTHING), and must work to get enough loot to get the phat fragg. He must work to pay for his Road Rat cable modem service, and his nasty pr0n habbit (just kidding). Anyone that wants in on this is welcome to help. Just shoot me an email. I will post code and applet if interest increases. If not then I will just write the fucking thing myself, and to hell with all of you

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Posted by DuSTman on Mar. 17 2001,14:41
I own with my elite java skillz!

Seriously. I'm pretty good, gimme the specs for what you want and i'll do it..


Posted by PersonGuy on Mar. 17 2001,15:05
quote:
Originally posted by whtdrgn_2:
the DetNet adventure games is in the works.

What about < MY adventure // RPG >?? It's had a TON of Detnet humor, with a special cameo by cr0bar! It even had kuru as a playable character! Didn't anyone play it???

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Posted by DuSTman on Mar. 17 2001,15:30
for one thing, that's compressed with LZH. Few people are gonna bother rooting out a LZh decompressor for that, and lzh is a pretty much dead algorithm now.. ZIp seems to be where it's at.

Secondly, once I located a de-lzher i found the extracted product to not work. Some file or other was missing.. *shrug*.


Posted by whtdrgn_2 on Mar. 17 2001,16:28
That is why I am using a Java applet. It will be playable on the web.

And besides, mine is staring cr0bar... assuming he doesn't bitch about it... Kuru might get an appearence in mine, but who knows

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Posted by SimplyModest on Mar. 17 2001,19:54
it said i didnt have a runtime packet installed... er.. something
Posted by cr0bar on Mar. 17 2001,23:49
All I ask is that you spell my pseudonym properly (no caps!).

If the game's good I'll host it here on detnet.


Posted by PersonGuy on Mar. 18 2001,01:09
Who... me? I'm just using Winzip to compress... what should I use?

Oh you also have to download < RPG Maker 2000 >. Sorry, forgot to mention it...

Oh, and you might also want to get the < Font Patch > if the fonts look bad on your puter.

TRUST ME! It's worth it! I made this game ROCK!

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<P:\>erson\Guy.exe -PersonGuy *pERSONgUY.cfg
< http://www.personguy.com >


Posted by DuSTman on Mar. 18 2001,04:55
quote:
Originally posted by PersonGuy:
Who... me? I'm just using Winzip to compress... what should I use?

your Zip file encapsulates another file (lzh) which contains the bulk of the files for your project. Winzip only supports lzh when you add a special program. And i'm buggered if i know where to find it.

Alternatively PowerArchiver (wwww.powerarchiver.com) - It's a shameless ripoff of winzip - the interface is near identical, and I find it to be somewhat slower than winzip, but at least it comes with lzh support as standard.

I prefer winzip.


Posted by PersonGuy on Mar. 18 2001,14:28
That unzips itself when you run the installer... don't worry about it so much!

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Posted by jim on Mar. 18 2001,14:38
What installer?

There is 2 files in the zip... A TXT and a LZH file....

Not worth the trouble...

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Posted by cr0bar on Mar. 18 2001,15:49
Heh, PersonGuy, nobody played your game because it's too much of a hassle to install. If you want us lazy bums to give it a whirl, repackage it as a self-extracting archive with everything we need to run it.
Posted by Observer on Mar. 18 2001,17:42
WinRAR also supports LZH archives, as well as ACE and ZIP (and RAR, of course) and probably a few others.

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Posted by L33T_h4x0r_d00d on Mar. 18 2001,19:06
Was I the only one that was able to run it.......
Posted by whtdrgn_2 on Mar. 18 2001,21:10
Well, this topic has gotten off course. A bit of an update. I have worked out the class framework, and how I am going to do the application. What I am looking for now is a good way to parse data for each action. Java is supposed to have "good" XML handlers, but if I have to fight like hell to make them work, then i will just use file streams. The form is done, and once I get a usable gamming engine in beta, I will release it. It definately looks Java-like, I have not given it the DetNet smack down.

DuSTman has joined the project team. I am not sure as to what he is going to do yet, but it will be important I am sure...

Hint Hint, Wink Wink HOW ABOUT THE TEXT FILE FORMATTING...

By the way, if anyone out there knows why Micro$sloth Virtual machine won't run my applets but Netscape / Mozzilla's will then let me know, and please lets not start an IE wanks war...

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Posted by Sithiee on Mar. 18 2001,21:58
quote:
Originally posted by whtdrgn_2:
I have not given it the DetNet smack down.

heh, that should be some sort of tv show....
maybe like celebrity deathmatch....

"its DETNET SMACKDOWN...featuring tonight, syf0n vs fatbitch, followed by the main bout, jim vs kuru!" heh, i know these people have sort of made peace, but its all i could come up with....


Posted by damien_s_lucifer on Mar. 18 2001,22:10
hmm... the IE problem... I bet it's because Java sux0rs

If you're doing lots of text processing, you should check out Perl - the ActiveState distribution includes PerlScript for Web pages. I'm pretty sure you can connect sockets within PerlScript, so you could make it truly multiplayer (with a suitable server script and host, of course.)

Hmm... maybe we could do that for The Detnet Adventure II


Posted by kornalldaway on Mar. 18 2001,23:18
(gettin off topic again)
i fixed up PersonGuy's game and, like cr0 sudgested, put it into a self extracting file which is placed into a zip file with all the other files needed to run the game
i sent the file to him since i have nowhere to post it so hopefully he'll post a file with a link to it

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Posted by PersonGuy on Mar. 19 2001,01:19
Thanks man! I didn't realize it was such a pain in the ass... but then I tried installing it myself, and you're ALL right... my bad!

Anyway... I've probably gotta buy some more webspace before I can post it on my server.

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<P:\>erson\Guy.exe -PersonGuy *pERSONgUY.cfg
< http://www.personguy.com >


Posted by cr0bar on Mar. 19 2001,01:46
Your message came in five pieces, and I deleted them because my mail client chokes on the message when I try to open it.

Sorry it didn't work out, better luck next time.


Posted by Rhydant on Mar. 19 2001,04:06
but you use the same mail client as us! you said we couldnt use POP3 with detnet accounts! damn you

i dont know anything about java, but i want to be in the story.

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Posted by j0eSmith on Mar. 19 2001,04:35
My Canadian ass had better be in this game or I'll have to start laying some canadian style smackdown.

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Posted by whtdrgn_2 on Mar. 19 2001,15:35
I wil put whoever I deam worthy in this game, and as for pearl, once again I am not going to start a war. If I want fast text file provessing I would have done it in PHP. This is going to be a Java application and that is it. I think my IE problem has to do with the fact that I am using Java SDK 1.3, and I don't think IE likes that. I am using JApplet, not applet. Whatever.

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Posted by cr0bar on Mar. 19 2001,16:33
quote:
Originally posted by Rhydant:
but you use the same mail client as us! you said we couldnt use POP3 with detnet accounts! damn you

You can't use POP3 clients. I do as I please.


Posted by damien_s_lucifer on Mar. 19 2001,20:01
quote:
as for pearl, once again I am not going to start a war.

I'm not trying to start a war. Perl probably isn't good for a client anyway. But if you need a multiplayer server, let me know - I rule at writing multi-client proggies

Anyway, my only real beef with Java is that EVERYTHING is object-oriented. I have the same problem with Python. That doesn't make 'em bad languages, it just means working with them makes me want to kill myself.

Hey... can I be in the game as the whacked-out Perl freak that cr0 must destroy with his mad PHP skillz? Just asking


Posted by kornalldaway on Mar. 19 2001,20:41
< http://www.realftp.com/phucyall/RPG.zip >
i think this server is reliable enough so i posted the file there
above is a link to a 16MB file which containg everything u'll nedd to run the game
inside are 3 installation files for the programs u need to install in order for the game to work and a self-extracting zip file which contains the game itself. once extracted u will need to run setup and just follow the prompts!
enjoy!

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Posted by Rhydant on Mar. 19 2001,21:04
quote:
Originally posted by cr0bar:
[b]You can't use POP3 clients. I do as I please.[/B]

Ooooh, you're a very, very evil little man...

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...when you look long into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you
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Posted by whtdrgn_2 on Mar. 20 2001,05:28
Preach it cr0, you own the site, do with it whatever and the hell you want. I pay for my own site so I can have a php/MySQL testing ground, and I do as I please. Why should you be any different...

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Posted by whtdrgn_2 on Mar. 20 2001,20:30
Well, I think I have finally finished that class design (and yes even I get tired of pure object avery now and then). As of now there are 4 classes, DetNet_Main (this draws the form, and passes arguments), DetNet_System (this is an object to hold the current stats on cr0's PC), DetNet_Location (this is an object that holds all properties of the current (x, y, z) position on the map, and DetNet_Process (this takes command entered by the user, determines kind of command, parses appropriate text file, and returns text to user). Now all i have to do is fill in the blanks. For thos os you interested:
< http://www.cannet.com/~whtdrgn/DetNet/test.html >

is the link. Until I feel like fucking with it, you need JRE 1.3 and Netscape navigator or Mozilla to mess with it. I will recompile and debug with an ealier 1.2 JDK when I feel like it.

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Posted by damien_s_lucifer on Mar. 23 2001,06:00
that's a pretty interesting gray square.
Posted by whtdrgn_2 on Mar. 27 2001,11:33
Update:

I figured out why alot of you are seeing a grey square. I am using swing classes (they are easier to work with and I can instantiate more then one container). HOwever, Internet Explorer does not yet understand Swing classes. I will have to re-design the GUI using awt classes. This is not a problem, and I have practiced on some of my old Java homework assignments. Right now as it stands (and I remember saying this), you would have had to have Netscape 6 to see the applet. It's only about 100 lines of code to change it from swing to awt, so I will port it tonight, and then I can start the work on the text parser... I guess I'm writting it myself. I am posting the game on my new homepage: < http://www.whtdrgn.net > and you'll find it on the projects page.

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Posted by kai on Mar. 28 2001,00:40
can someone post PG's game again? the link was dead/dying.

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Posted by PersonGuy on Mar. 28 2001,01:42
Yah, not even I got a chance to download it before the link when down. But I assume it work at some point, cause someone told me they beat it. So...

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Posted by whtdrgn_2 on Mar. 29 2001,21:39
I'll post it on my site if you want PG.
< http://www.whtdrgn.net >

I have a projects page, and people can get to it from there Just email me the files

webmaster@whtdrgn.net

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Posted by PersonGuy on Mar. 30 2001,03:02
Cool, but the main problem is that I don't the self extracting version myself...

But I think kornalldaway has a copy somewheres. ICQ# 40459456

I'm going to fix all those problems in my next version so it stand alone a little better. Oh and as suggested by MANY, I'm going to fix the text speed too.

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Posted by whtdrgn_2 on Apr. 17 2001,12:46
Alright every body time for an update... I FUCKING HATE JAVA FILE STREAMS. Dustman hasn't send me any code so I decided to take on the file streams myself. I got it in C, and even C++ and I use file streams all the god damn time in PHP. But for some fucking reason I can't get the god damn thing pull the right chunk sizes from the stream. I want to open the first 1024 bytes of a file stream or stop when I hit an end of line character. For some unknows reason it won't stop at the end of line character.... FUCK YOU JAVA!!!!

Sorry perhaps this should have been in the rant section...

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Posted by DuSTman on Apr. 17 2001,14:04
quote:
Originally posted by whtdrgn_2:
Dustman hasn't send me any code so I decided to take on the file streams myself.

Sorry about that.. I keep underestimating how lazy I am.


Posted by solid on Apr. 18 2001,05:05
... maybe an rpg maker thing like pg did wouldve been better..
Posted by whtdrgn_2 on Apr. 18 2001,14:12
quote:
Originally posted by DuSTman:
Sorry about that.. I keep underestimating how lazy I am.


I am burdoned be the same problem. ALthough mine is coupled with this strange crazing for those Coconut Girl Scout cookies... hum... Therefore the reason why I am 6' 2" and not way 205 lbs... grrrr

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Posted by Prometheus on May 08 2001,22:38
quote:
Originally posted by whtdrgn_2:
Coconut Girl Scout cookies

tasty, yet morally ambiguous.

so what's the news on this? has it fallen apart, or what?
i sorta had my hopes up that i might have a part to play...

This message has been edited by Prometheus on May 09, 2001 at 05:39 PM


Posted by DuSTman on May 09 2001,13:23
Well I've just finished my exams so now i'll be able to give it a fair bit of time.

That said, what i was originallly allocated was the file reading code, but whtdrgn has apparently started on that since i was too slow getting any code to him. I'm not entirely sure what my job is.


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