Forum: Geek Forum
Topic: Microsoft Optical Mouse and Quake 3
started by: CatKnight

Posted by askheaves on Feb. 27 2001,22:15
2 quick things:

1) The optical mouse has a built-in speed limit of it's own, due to the mechanism, so a quick jerk will send the mouse updates to crazy land.
2) The best recommendation I've heard is in the Windows settings for the mouse: Set the speed very low, set the acceleration very high. This will allow you to zero in on a very specific point, or zing around 180 quickly.

If Q3 uses internal mouse drivers, then the same sort of settings are in there somewhere (which he mentions). I'd first see if Windows mouse settings have any effect, then try to hunt down the Q3 settings.


Posted by CatKnight on Feb. 27 2001,23:13
that didnt work when i set the accleration above low its so erratic its impossible to aim. moving the mouse 2 mm rotates about 720 degrees. and having the sensitivity low makes it impossible to move around at all.
Posted by askheaves on Feb. 28 2001,03:23
It's not a more is better thing. There is definitely a balance thing, and a period of adjustment. Take a little time to get used to it. I have mine on 60\% speed and Medium acceleration. Might crank it up a slight bit. Not sure yet.

So, does that mean that Q3 uses the OS settings for mouse?


Posted by CatKnight on Feb. 28 2001,04:05
apparantly.

my problem is that when i set the accleration high enough so that i can move around quickly and smoothly, it is impossible to aim and shoot at guys while moving because slight movements send me twirling. if i change the sensitivity instead then aiming is easier but i can't move around effectively. i cant find any middle ground grr!


Posted by CatKnight on Feb. 28 2001,04:07
note: usually when i play games, i hardly move my wrist at all. i only move my hand. therefore, i normally like high sensitivity so i can move quickly without having to move my hand all over the place. but with this optical mouse, there doesnt seem to be a way so that i can make the sensitivity high to make this possible while keeping the acceleration at a decent level so i dont spin around wildly.
Posted by CatKnight on Feb. 28 2001,05:55
i cant seem to get my mouse speed at a good setting with my new optical mouse. its either way too fast or way too slow or doesn't accelerate fast enough, etc. i have a hard time moving and turning fast and then aiming a railgun accurately and quickly, for example. its fine in half life though. any suggestions?
Posted by Vigilante on Feb. 28 2001,05:57
I think Q3 has its own internal mouse acceleration settings, in addition to normal sensitivity. Can't remember a cvar for it, though...
Posted by askheaves on Mar. 05 2001,19:49
Muahahahah
< http://www.lostuniverse.org/article.asp?articles/guides/blueledmod/index.htm >

I did this to my optical mouse, now I'm extra suppa-l33t!!! Blue LED Optical Mouse!!!

Ok, I'm done now. It just rulez, that's all. Does anybody have any good way of increasing the power after putting the new LED in? It's not very bright, so I have to be careful what surfaces I use it on.


Posted by CatKnight on Mar. 06 2001,08:19
some guy replaced the green led on his klipches with a blue one. made a whole fuss about it on the klipsch BB. then the new CP-1 (new preamp) came out and he sold it on ebay. ehe.
Posted by Sithiee on Mar. 06 2001,08:57
dont logitechs come with blue LEDs already? i saw a logitech at best buy today called the "iFeel" mouse, its one of those force feedback mice...it was 40 bucks, has anyone tried this? it wasnt hooked up to a computer, so i couldnt test it out...it looks cool, but i dunno if its worth 40 dollars...
Posted by askheaves on Mar. 06 2001,14:31
I wouldn't think that any mice would come with a blue LED. For one, they're about 5 bucks a piece, as opposed to the quarter penny red LEDs. Also, Blue LEDs are a pain in the ass to work with. Higher power consumption, etc. Mine is really dark because I can't find a way to shunt down the resistance. That means I can't use it on every surface anymore.
Posted by DuSTman on Mar. 06 2001,14:41
Askheaves, I have a logitech optical mouse, and yes, it came with a blue LED - For decorative purposes only, i might add. This thing just illuminates a transparent logo on the back of the mouse...

Damn good mouse, and the blue LED makes it look cool :] I have the version without force feedback.. The version with force feedback looks more or less the same (the case is a lighter shade of blue) but it still has the LED..


Posted by Sithiee on Mar. 06 2001,18:37
is the force feedback worth getting instead of the explorer-type mouse?
Posted by justcozz on Mar. 07 2001,00:57
My teacher bought one of the ifeel mice. i thought it was annoying it just vibrated like a pager (ooh... ahh) it was kinda annoying it would vibrate everytime you went over an icon. then they had some moving pictures and it would vibrate like you were going over a bump or something. might be good for quake if you could get it to vibrate every time you got shot. other than that i wouldn't get one.

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