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Forum: Geek Forum Topic: Tuner Software started by: kornalldaway Posted by kornalldaway on Nov. 06 2001,18:48
I have an ati all in wonder pro pci videocard with 8mb ram. And i also have an ati tv tuner software to use with the built in tv tuner. Well since i happen to be running windows xp pro on a P1 166 macheine with 64mb of ram, and apperently it needs more ram or cpu power ati tuner software does very wierd thing. It freezes up absolutely everything. I can't move my mouse or do anything with the keyboarb. I can't do anything about that but to restart. Gets very anoying after awhile. Is there any other (third party) TV tuner software that would work with my ati all in wonder card?
Posted by DuSTman on Nov. 06 2001,19:41
Any other software to do that would probably be built upon directshow, and use essentially the same directshow filters as the ati player uses. I suspect the problem you're having is in one of the directshow filters provided by the driver.. Well - Try updating the driver if possible, otherwise you=out of luck. Posted by kornalldaway on Nov. 06 2001,19:54
all drivers are completely up to dateany ideas of what other software i can possibly use? Posted by Beldurin on Nov. 06 2001,21:36
quote: A better computer? ------------------ Posted by Observer on Nov. 06 2001,22:07
I was going to say Windows 98. I wouldn't recommend ever trying to run 2K/XP with less than 128MB RAM, especially if you're trying to run something like a TV tuner.Seriously, XP Pro on a 166? Without checking I'd say that doesn't even meet M$'s minimum requirements, and that's for barely tolerable performance. ------------------ Posted by kornalldaway on Nov. 07 2001,00:19
you are definately rightminimum requierments for XP pro are 233 MMX with at least 128mb ram but it runs performans is far below tolerable, but the only thing i use it for it watching tv for everything else i am using my P2 350 with 320mb ram still pretty slow but i am saving up for a new computer by the end of winter, possibly beginning of summer, before i go off to university still, i was wondering if there'ss anything else i could do to my 166 without goin back to any older operating systems Posted by ASCIIMan on Nov. 07 2001,01:13
Let me take this time to repeat what others have said:What the fuck are you doing trying to run Windows XP on a P166!?! And you say you only use it for the TV stuff. UNINSTALL Windows XP. It's the reason you can't use the software. Windows XP runs slow because it's taking all the processing time on your CPU, meaning THERE'S NO MORE CPU FOR TV! The solution is pretty obvious, install Win98 or below. If it still doesn't work, get a better computer. Or try Linux. Posted by askheaves on Nov. 07 2001,02:38
quote: No no no... Never ever ever ever install a Win9x OS. It's way too bad. Install Win2K. It's actually faster than Win98, gives you a little more control, and seems to be the defacto standard of business nowadays. Almost everything runs on it now anyways. If it doesn't, it isn't worth running. Don't know what else to tell you. P166 is pretty hardcore nowadays. See if your Mobo bios supports a CHEAP upgrade to a slightly faster chip in the 200 range. Watch your voltages and 'microcode updates' (which equals MMX support), I got burned once. Posted by Dark Knight Bob on Nov. 07 2001,09:24
minimum specs are there for a reason use them!------------------ Posted by kornalldaway on Nov. 07 2001,09:51
i don't care about minumum specsi have an old 166 and i am not goin to just waste it i am thingking of puttig linux on it and as for OS, 2k professional was running slower then XP last time i had it on there, and i am not going lower then that. Posted by Observer on Nov. 07 2001,10:55
quote: For running a regular system, I would normally agree with you there. However, in cases like this I would recommend going with 98 because he's just using it for the Tv tuner software. In my own case, 98 gives smoother playback than 2K when running DivXplus. If he had more RAM, then I would say go with Win2K, but 64MB gives poor performance even on a P-200. ------------------ Posted by incubus on Nov. 08 2001,00:13
quote: roger that. ------------------ Posted by kornalldaway on Nov. 08 2001,00:54
i am aware of the fact that i am running way under minimum requirements, and i know that to fix that i need to downgrade to 98 or sobut i though that there was some really small Tuner software written by some guy in c++ or something like that, that would run in those coditions apperently not that's all i really wanted to know Posted by kornalldaway on Nov. 09 2001,12:06
thanks manati's hardware is good. not in the area of 3d aceleration, at least not in my opinion, but in TV tuners and such ati is really good. the only thing is their software. i found their tv tuner software for windows 98 was great, it had a few more features and was much smaller, faster and better at a few more things the new tuner software for 2k is a complete opposite. and they are refusing to create any kind of tuner software for the old all-in-wonder cards under xp Posted by The_Stomper on Nov. 09 2001,17:40
Hmm. I use PowerVCR personally ... came with my WinTV card. Try getting a hold of that - but don't turn on all the "quality improvement" filters such as deinterlace and smoothing. You should be able to pull out 30fps - ATI's TV hardware is good.(Edit - 400 posts. And I still don't give a fuck. :P) This message has been edited by The_Stomper on November 10, 2001 at 12:41 AM |