Forum: Sex Topic: Things to try out started by: portrman Posted by portrman on Nov. 06 2000,00:53
ok, I've never done anything with a girl in my life and Im 19!!!! anyways, I need some suggests of things to do with her. She knows of fun things, but I want to seem a little knowledgeable.So post away!!! Now I don't plan on actually intercourse, so don't need any of that stuff. But everything else goes. =) Posted by demonk on Nov. 06 2000,02:20
Try taking a shower together. It can be quite fun.
Posted by askheaves on Nov. 06 2000,04:48
One word... SPOON!Nothing like a good spooning. But, please, you wanker. Don't get all excited about having a gf and do all the public displays of affection stuff. If makes everybody uncomfortable and sickens them. I mean, I really hate that and I've had to witness it too many times. Yuck. Posted by PersonGuy on Nov. 06 2000,14:16
Baby steps man! That is WHY the "base" system was invented!! Go from base to base in order, and you should be fine...1st base: 2nd base: 3rd base: 4th base:
When dancing make sure to do a tiny bit of groping. When watching TV make sure you're "touching"... whether it be side by side, hands, or arm over shoulder... keep the contact going. Make sure that at some point you REALLY look into her eyes at nose to nose range (but don't do it more than twice or it gets creepy). 1) Some how that's a good assment of her (don't ask me how THAT works, but it does) 2) Chicks dig that 3) It gives you a chance to tell her how pretty they are. When ordering icecream, wait for her to order first... then say, "OH! I wanted the same thing, we should just get a big one on a cone and share!" (that doesn't work with banana splits... but if she's ordering banana splits you'd better watch out for fatness anyway!) TICKLING! WHEE! Don't take it too far though... Ok, hope that helps... I'm out of ideas for the second over here. ------------------ Posted by brodie on Nov. 06 2000,17:27
true about the public thing, but "fun" stuff in public is great.for example, the rollercoaster scene in "fear" (if you don't know, the guy fingers his gf on a rollercoaster). anything like that in public is great, b/c the knowledge that you could get caught makes it all the more fun. another example, fingering or oral sex on the bus ride back from prom (if you take buses, as we did...) basically, anything like that in a public place is really fun. showering and naked jacuzzi's, too... ------------------ Now every face, it looks familiar... Posted by portrman on Nov. 06 2000,17:45
well, spoon huh? more details, come on, a little hint. Also, Im not thinking about public places all that much. a little more private areas?? come on, I know u guys/girls have the good stuff. Hints at the very least?? :-)
Posted by directhex on Nov. 06 2000,18:31
damnit. i had a big long reply typed then mshtml.dll caused an invalid page fault...anyways, good call PersonGuy. the bases (with the 5th tagged on) is a good way to work. and lord knows i could have behaved better when i went to a concert this weekend with my gf. and last time we went to the cinema... one thing to remember is not to overdo it on third. start with one finger. if she obviously wants more, then move up by one. if she seems comfortable, stay there for a while. leave a time gap (i.e. days) before trying with more. she'll appreciate it. but NEVER push anything she dosen't seem 417\% happy with. [moralHighGround] remember, kiddies. there's more to life than sex. it's fine to let sex revolve around a relationship - don't let a relationship revolve around sex. unless you're just after a quick fuck. in which case, a new partner every night is alot more cost effective. [/moralHighGround] --directhex ------------------ Posted by kuru on Nov. 06 2000,18:40
uh, this just a little female advice, but i'd say don't worry too hard about any set rules or 'what you're supposed to do when'just spend time with your girl, be affectionate, and it'll flow for you how it does. there's nothin worse than a guy who has a "playbook" hidden under the bed. altho, backrubs, bubble baths, makin out a lot, and sleepin naked in the same bed are really great. ------------------ Posted by PersonGuy on Nov. 06 2000,20:18
Yah, kuru's right! Don't plan too far in advance or anything. The trick is that it should all come naturally, and when the time is right, you'll know! Just make sure that when you "know that the time is right" you don't just sit there like a lump. Just do it!MAKE A MALE VIRGIN SLEEP NAKED IN THE SAME BED AS A NAKED WOMAN AND NOT HAVE SEX!!!!! ------------------ Posted by portrman on Nov. 07 2000,04:35
Hey thats some good stuff Kuru. Unfortanetly there is no bathtub =(, only a college dorm room size shower. But Im sure we can find something to interests us while in there. Backrubs is cool and most definatly the bed thing is a must =) hehe. Personal Guy, thx for the reminder of the base thing, and yes it is cruel to be in bed and not have sex, but I must put a line someplace and that was the only thing that I don't want to do YET!!!! Im proud I have lasted this long and want it to last a while longer. Posted by directhex on Nov. 07 2000,18:31
has anyone else noticed just how much SENSE the stupidest of conversations makes at four in the morning, lying next to the girl you love?--directhex ------------------ Posted by CatKnight on Nov. 07 2000,19:52
god damn directhex quit braggin about your girlfriend its gettin annoying lol...some of us are still out there lookin. i hope you dont make out in public or anything bleh
Posted by incubus on Nov. 08 2000,02:43
Some girls respect that. I've done the whole "sleep naked with girl" bit, and yeah you think of sex a lot, but prolly so does she. If she doesn't make the first move however, respect that, and maybe cuddle. The fact you dont demand anything is a sign of respect, and once you build up more trust the good stuff really starts to come in ... ![]() ------------------ Posted by PersonGuy on Nov. 08 2000,03:16
I never said, "Don't cuddle..." I never said, "You have to have sex..." I said, "Cuddling, or just not having sex, WEAR SOME CLOTHES IN BED."Again, don't get me wrong, it's great to just sleep (or hang out) naked with a chick! But if you've NEVER had sex with HER (or worse you NEVER had sex AT ALL) I say TORTURE!!! ------------------ Posted by demonk on Nov. 08 2000,14:21
Yup, but what a wonderful, wonderful torture!
Posted by portrman on Nov. 08 2000,16:53
Demonk, your a bastard if you think that that would be wonderful torture!! Sleeping naked would be fun, but I really don't think it would be torture. I mean, damn! I would be laying next to the girl I love. It can't get much better then that! So just shut up demonk.
Posted by jim on Nov. 08 2000,16:56
So why exactly are you not having sex with her???------------------ Posted by jim on Nov. 08 2000,18:09
You are definitely wrong there.Sex doesn't have to be this big of a deal. Seriously!! You are talking about being naked in shower, and in the bed, and everything except the actual act of intercourse. What is the big deal? And it's sorta true that sex can be the basis for a bad relationship. But that is limited to relationships that were built off of sex. Which is NOT the case here. I'm not telling you, you have to go have sex with this woman. I'm only asking why you are NOT having sex with this woman. So far, I'm only 19, and it will ruin my relationship, are not really satisfactory answers. ------------------ Posted by demonk on Nov. 08 2000,18:22
quote: What's up with you portrman? Well, I guess for someone who is probably a pasty white computer geek who doesn't do anything but play with their computer all day it wouldn't be torture, but something new. But I bet everything with a girl would be new to someone like you. So you shut the fuck up! This message has been edited by demonk on November 08, 2000 at 01:24 PM Posted by directhex on Nov. 08 2000,18:37
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quote: there's PLEANTY of sexual stuff you can do without intercourse. see PersonGuy's stuff, for example. and just doing stuff like showering or sleeping together is great. really. sex does change relationships, if they really are relationships. but not necessarily in a bad way. lord knows WE didn't exactly wait long. *counts on fingers* just under two months. but we've still lasted for a helluva long time, we're still going strong, and we still enjoy nothing more than each others' company. portrman's opinions i respect. very honorable to care so much about what she feels. let me put it this way: in my experience, you only get what you give [/rant] --directhex ------------------ Posted by portrman on Nov. 08 2000,20:04
U know demonk that is just plain rude resorting to personal attacks. And no I am not pasty white, but I am a computer geek and DAMN proud of it!! I bet your a 15 year old scrony little shit that wacks off the the thought of his mom because you have never had a girl touch you or even look at you. Stop filling this forum with shit and grow up.And directhex, your absolutely correct and thx for the advice. Intercourse maybe fun, but will definatly change any relationship, even if showers and sleeping naked together is a part of that relationship. Society has grounded into our minds that intercourse is a hugh leap and should not be taken lightly. For once I agree with society. Posted by askheaves on Nov. 08 2000,22:10
Just go for it. Live a little. It may be a hugish deal the first time, but you can't live in fear of this 3 seconds of intimacy (which isn't all that uncommon the first time). My first time was when I was 17, with a girl I had been with for 5 months (although more reality, we'd been friends for 6 years). We had done many other things up to that point, but I had never put my hoo-hoo in her cha-cha. We were feeling like things were wierd because we were both ready, but had a really tough time finding a place and time to do this.Long story short, yay score, we stayed together off and on for 4 more years, and she is still my best friend in the world (even though she's on the other side of the country). If your relationship with a girl is so shaky that it can't handle sex, what the hell are you doing? You're 19 years old, obviously don't get her pregnant, and hopefully this isn't the last girlfriend you have before you die. Be young, have fun, drink Pepsi. I really can't explain how I feel, but I think that people that lay a blanket of 'no sex until I'm married' with any potential relationships is a fool. It will only cause resentment and guilt if you go through with it, and resentment and guilt for denying yourself something if you don't. #include <stddisclaimer.h> Posted by Michael on Nov. 08 2000,22:38
quote: A relationship can be perfectly healthy without sex, if both people have agreed to wait until marriage. You shouldn't assume that anyone who is dating someone should be having sex with them unless someething is wrong with the relationship. On the other hand, if your relationship is so shaky that you can't talk about sex, that's a problem. But if you discussed it and agree to put it off, that's just fine. Posted by portrman on Nov. 08 2000,23:40
Its not that I am never planning on having sex, even out of marriage, but intercourse can usually make things more complicated. She is not a virgin but we have talked and decided that we don't want to go there. Her last relationship didn't end well and it was in that relationship that she lost her virginanty. And I am in no hurry. And the idea that a relationship is to shaking to withstand sex is not a good relationship, I would have say that is stupid and ignorent of you. Are u saying askheavens that 14 year olds should either have sex or break up? I sure hope not! I am glad for what she and I have. Sure going to intercourse would be fun in the future, but yes it would be a bad idea right now for the both of us. I am just a 2nd year student in college and to become a computer eng in this day and age requires an ton of schooling, which would likely not be possible if a baby would come my way. I appriecte the time you put into your reply askheavens, but a little thought about what you were saying is important. Especially when talking to someone that has never had intercourse. I don't mean that as a person bash, but as contrustive critism =) So back to the reason I started this thread!! Anyone know of any fun thing that she and I could do??? Shower, oral sex and sleeping together naked is good, but what else. Come on now, I have read alot of this forum, I know there are perves out there, hehe, come on Kuru, where is your oh so wise knowledge!!! Posted by askheaves on Nov. 09 2000,00:28
Drat. I was expecting hotter flames than that, but I appreciate the constructive criticism. My only real strong opinion is that if you are of a reasonably mature age, you are talking about sex, and you are willing to become intimate up to oral sex, showering, and sleeping in bed together naked... it's not a huge leap after that... in fact, these are all wonderful things that lead to sex, or are wonderful to do after sex. If it's just 'insert somewhere close, preferebly moist, thrust, repeat', then go to hell if it doesn't work out. If it's a fun day at the park, cuddling to a movie, shower, oral sex, sex, talk naked in bed, sleep, wake up and sex again... Then so be it. I would be surprised if the sex is what ruins that type of relationship.In addition, I agree with you Michael. There needs to be communication, damnit. Edit: screwed up the Clerks quote... This message has been edited by askheaves on November 08, 2000 at 07:29 PM Posted by Monkeyjax on Nov. 09 2000,02:32
As a girl, I can honestly say that while sex is best, loads of spooning and kissing can be good too. Always, always ask your girl what she's into, and what she's comfortable with.------------------ Posted by portrman on Nov. 09 2000,05:54
Im 19 years old. I have never done anything with a girl before and am not willing to go take that final step anytime soon. There is plenty that can happen in a relationship sexually that does not involve sex. That is the reason why I started this thread. To get advice as to what else we could do. My roommate has been dating his gf for over 2 years now has still hasn't gone all the way. It is those types of relationships that really last and last for the right reasons.
Posted by kuru on Nov. 09 2000,15:38
if i was portman's girl (and i'm not), i'd have already made a serious attempt to jump his bones. damn. layin naked together, that feels good. the skin on skin contact (which is why, to me, it's better without clothes, personguy), but seriously... i wouldn't hang so much weight on the actual act. it's already a relationship that's not based on sex, so if it were me, i'd go for it. perhaps on one of those 'let's sleep naked together' nights.------------------ Posted by reman on Nov. 09 2000,23:57
wtf is spooning? some new merikan jingo for something?
reman ------------------ Posted by portrman on Nov. 10 2000,00:01
u know, I didn't know either so I asked my roommate, yes thats demonk (see me and portrman thread). From what he said it basicly when the girl is lying in bed naked or not, nad kinda has the feet laying on each other and currled up a bit. Looks like the fetal possition. Then the guy come up and positions his body right long hers. Following the same curvature of her body and holding himself against her.I hope that is what it is or else I will be beating demonk a bit, hehe Cheers =) Posted by PersonGuy on Nov. 10 2000,01:42
Hmmm... I might (I don't know) be repeating myself, but here's what I got:If you don't feel ready for sex, then ABSOLUTELY POSSITIVELY DON'T! But if any second you think your ready, then don't overthink it. Go with your gut on this one whatever it says. Sex does change relationships, but be carful... it's still going to change it even if it's 10 years from now, and you might want to get past that "change" before you get too much further. Know what I mean? Mikey-man (previously know as Mikey), is right. Have you actually communicated about sex with her? If not I really think that might be a big problem. So long as you've disscussed the fact that you aren't then it's fine. Hmmm... ok. I think I have mixed feelings, and kuru made me REALLY think about it. So here's what I got... AFTER sex, sleeping naked with = ahhh... sence of security... that feels good... ANYWAY, back to the topic at hand... Footsy at the table... ALWAYS fun... Back in Virgina, they used to have hay-rides. In the cold of the fall, couples bring a bunch of blankets and ride around in the back of a truck at night. You get the veiw, you get the cuddling, you get the fun of being with friends/beer, and you get to do stuff under the blankets! It sounds crazy, but it's THE BEST. Shave eachothers most privatest parts. Roll down a BIG grassy hill. Sing show tunes (if one knows how to play the piano). Go into a Halmark store and show each other cards. Spanking! Just a little here and there. Goto a strip club if you both find it sexy, but NO lap dances I say! Goto different libraries and meet in a chat room! There's something totally fun about freaking out everyone else in there together! Goto the beach! (don't 'member where you live...) Take a workshop of mutual intrest together. How'd I do? ------------------ Posted by portrman on Nov. 10 2000,01:59
wow personal guy. Thats some good stuff, thx for the advice. I like the card thing, that sounds like a sweet and funny thing to do.Cheers =) Posted by Michael on Nov. 10 2000,18:12
quote: I'm not exactly an authority in this area, but I thought that "spooning" just meant clowning around, "public displays of affection" etc... This is the meaning of the word that I was aware of, but maybe it's changed a bit in recent years, I don't know. Perhaps someone who actually knows could take the time to enlighten us... Posted by damien_s_lucifer on Nov. 10 2000,21:50
"Spooning" is cuddling your lady from behind, in a semi-fetal position, like a pair of spoons nestled together. And yes, it rules... especially when you've got a multi-disc CD player rolling...some more suggestions : - leave a message on her machine immediately after she leaves your house, so she'll get it when she gets home. - go out in public and mess with people's minds together. Make sure they don't know you're messing with them. - picnics kick ass. bring a portable stereo & some mellow tunes. - shop together. Make sure you have an opinion on the clothes she picks out. Women HATE it when guys say "I don't care." - be excellent to each other, and party on, dude. Posted by floyd on Nov. 10 2000,22:26
What?! Spooning is when you stick your finger up her ass, you ninnies. Unless this is another case of terms changing meanings over time...which would suck.------------------ Posted by directhex on Nov. 11 2000,05:45
awww... young love... how sweet. ![]() --directhex ------------------ Posted by Observer on Nov. 11 2000,12:42
Watch "Mallrats" for yer official explanation of Spooning.------------------ Posted by floyd on Nov. 11 2000,14:07
Well, I haven't seen that movie for like 4 years anyways...
Posted by askheaves on Nov. 12 2000,00:16
Damnit! I'm the person that mentioned spooning. Danien is absolutely right. It's laying with a woman (though not necessarily) where the man is behind, and they are in a semi-fetal position. The only problem with spooning is finding someplace to put the under-arm. It usually finds a place where it falls asleep. The best is where the man is laying on his back, and the woman is laying on her side, with about half of her body on the man (hand, breast, head in shoulder, one leg over).
Posted by floyd on Nov. 12 2000,14:23
There is but one flaw with your spooning! In case you forgot, the dude wants to know stuff other than sex...with the guy behind the girl...well, shit, who could blame him if he popped a stiffy! HELLLOOOOOOOOOOO
Posted by brodie on Nov. 12 2000,14:47
quote: ok, so...... if i "pop a stiffy" around my gf, we're gonna have sex? we both decided that we're not yet, so we don't. but handjobs are fun. spooning is great! and if mr winky gets excited, ... i'm sure they'll find something to do ------------------ Now every face, it looks familiar... Posted by fatbitch on Nov. 15 2000,11:11
YOU WOULD CRACK A FAT!!!! AHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!
Posted by floyd on Nov. 15 2000,13:30
Um, no
Posted by fatbitch on Nov. 20 2000,13:11
thats what i was thinkingdamn, i am one dumb motherfucker Posted by portrman on Nov. 20 2000,18:31
you know what sucks though is having your roommate around so much. He's nice about it when his gf is over so I was nice when mine is over. But damn!! its annoying. And with our beds being lofted in the air, they make alot of noise with any movement. Thats actually kinda funny, trying to be quiet while have some "fun" in bed at night, the bed moves alittle and goes bang bang against the wall and you hear ur roommate laugh alittle. I just had to laugh myself =) <g>------------------------- Posted by JohnFish on Nov. 21 2000,17:34
I know this is going to sound a bit odd, but losing your virginity is a really big deal until it's in the past - before I "did the deed" as it were, I thought "Well, I'll save it for the right person and it'll be special and magical and wonderful". Then I went out and had a one-night stand. Although I was drunk at the time, I do remember thinking "Hey! I'm having sex! Woohoo!" and then shortly after "Gods, what was all the fuss about?". Don't doubt me, it's great getting a shag, but to be honest the best part of it is the foreplay. As PersonGuy (*why* exactly does he need JavaScript on his website? Most of the stuff on there can't be done without it and the stuff that does need it could be decoded gracefully) says, go with what feels good. Best advice is to play it by ear but keep an open mind. Posted by PersonGuy on Nov. 22 2000,05:23
Hehe... ![]() Many people ask why a) my site is ugly and b) my site has so much Javascript... To answer both, this is the 3rd "PersonGuy's HomePage" I've made. The first was just because I was learning HTML, so it odviously sucked. The second, I tried to do something bigger. I made it VERY heavy in graphics and tables! I made sure that EVERYTHING was done in HTML, in 640X480 resolution, because I wanted ANYBODY to be able to access it. However, because I had done this, it was nearly impossible to make updates. It took days of reworking everything, just so I could ad a new section, or (LITTERALLY) a new paragraph! It was just BAD BAD BAD. So, when I remade it the 3rd time, my goal was to make it easy for ME to make the site. It isn't like I was like "screw the visitors" but now it was about me. The reason it's ugly is so that I don't have to do as much work. I just build the content, and worry very little about design. As for the Javascript, it allows me to add things very easily. Instead of copying and paisting, I just type a few words into and array, and I'm done! Also, sections that end up with a TON of code can be fit into just a few lines, and that makes it easier for me to change things. Last, when sections share the same things, I can make a .js file. That way if I need to change it, I don't have to change it 3713245 million times. Just once. ------------------ Posted by 2c13 on Nov. 30 2000,21:36
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2c13, i believe you reequire some hot and heavy buttsex0r as obviously you did not reply to personguy nor did you r3ead the bit from cr0 which says _NO IMG TAG IN DA SIG_just tryin to help dude ------------------ Posted by palfons on Dec. 01 2000,09:30
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