I would have posted this in the Hilarious links section, but apparently its actually true! Its a shame that they're making an example out of this guy I would bet that I'm not the only one that finds this a little ... disturbing. What do you guys think?

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"It's not peer pressure, its just your turn." - Unknown

Lower the prices on CD's and maybe I'll start paying for music. Until then- FUCK YOU. :)

ฟ for ONE CD is fucking crazy. It should be -at most- ŭ.

Grrr...

-Tony

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A good programmer is someone who looks both ways on a one-way street

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aventari
"A witty saying proves nothing." --Voltaire

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.. you can tell by the blood splatter on this orbital track that the perp used a ball peen hammer or a lead pipe to download this song,
and the song not evean fuly downloaded.. the sick bastard

Although I do have a few gigs of copywrited mp3's.... I would never say I deserve them for free.

I also don't argue with cops when I get a speeding ticket either.

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Beauty is in the eye of the Beer Holder
< Brews and Cues >

It's just my way of 'fighting the system!"

Assuming I couldn't do this, I'd just listen to the radio more ;)

-Tony

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He was not only running Napster, but also an ftp server as well, and whenever he was online, he'd go around chat rooms advertising the stuff and he'd tell his friends to tell their friends and so on, and on the ftp side of things, he had put a readme file asking people to upload anything they had that he didnt (and not just a few songs, entire albums).

So like I said, he deserved to get caught for that, not to mention the fact he was using so much bandwidth by distributing (what with the hundreds of people he'd told himself, and the hundreds more they had told) the files, that the RIAA couldnt fail to miss the fact he was distributing them.

Also, the kid wasnt even smart enough to automatically block the college admin and security from being able to use the server, and when he noticed they were on it, he quickly attempted to boot them off. Ten minutes later they were kicking his door in and removing his machine.

Enough said.

there's tons of other shit out there going on that nobody does a damn thing about, but no, let's go after the mp3 users...

i feel so much safer now that the local serial rapis is STILL on the loose, and the cops are out looking for mp3s.

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'if your children ever found out how lame you are, they'd kill you in your sleep.' -frank zappa

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Originally posted by Sithiee:
well, im not going to jail, i dont have any mp3s of copyrighted material. and complaining about that is just dumb. its like saying "well officer, i wouldnt have to speed if you would raise the speed limit." you just sound dumb saying that its fair to take copyrighted (COPYRIGHTED) material just because you dont want to cough up the 15 bucks for the cd.

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Good point, except for the fact that by speeding we are not doing anything meaningful. MP3's and digital music are the wave of the future, and by promoting this technology we are enticing the record companies to EVOLVE and offer us an affordable digital solution to their overpriced CDs. Granted, this may be breaking the law now. But if no one did anything better/differently, we'd still be illiterate apes running around in Africa someplace. People who support napster JUST because it offers free music are fools (read - apathy of the mainstream).

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"It's not peer pressure, its just your turn." - Unknown

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Originally posted by Sithiee:
fuck that, i like the system as it is. i like hard copy of my cds, for the same reason i dont ever download software(i.e. from beyond.com, dont pay and download) what happens if your harddrive crashes? oh well, gotta pay again. just in general, i think the system we have now is fine. if you cant cough up the 15 dollars for the cd, maybe you dont really deserve to listen to it. when you support the band, the band should then support you. all this getting stuff for nothing shit just isnt right....now if the band promotes you getting their stuff over napster, thats a completely different thing....

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I believe in the system now so far as that if you like a group, you should go out and buy their stuff. Hell, I've payed for pretty much all of my Ministry albums and Videos. But...you should NOT have to pay money to find out if that random artist you only heard on the radio once has a good album, or if that one song just happened to be pleasing to the ears. I don't think the current system allows you this much freedom, so i choose new routes in order to find my music (internet, mp3s, illegal trading, etc). Hell, illegal (bootleg) trading has been going on for decades. Have you ever copied songs to a tape before? Ooops!

Every system changes over time when people grow dissatisfied with it. Myself and MANY more people have grown dissatisfied with our current system of music distribution, and are in the process of changing it. If you dont' like that, its perfectly fine. Maybe we're all just flaming morons. There sure seem to be plenty on both sides of this argument.

I don't want to lose all my crap when a HD crashes, so that's why I keep backups. I realize that its elitist to bash you for not being willing or able to just throw stuff on cd w/a burner, but pretty soon it'll be VERY cheap and easy to do so. And if you'd rather buy the cd at that point, i could care less. Just don't impede my RIGHT to listen to music in a different manner. Which, by the way, i'll gladly pay a fee for once i'm satisfied with it.

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MP3 != 'Fuck The System'
MP3 == [Part of] 'The System'

So, what I request, is that cr0 or eng start deleting or locking these damn things up as soon as they appear, for the simple fact that it's stupid as hell to repeat all this shit every time some little punk is new here and decides to make another issue out of it.

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Originally posted by Kayy:
Quite frankly, I'm getting a tad pissed off with the repetitive posts in all these mp3/napster/riaa topics, we've all heard it before, and quite frankly, I wouldnt be suprised if we're all sick of it.

So, what I request, is that cr0 or eng start deleting or locking these damn things up as soon as they appear, for the simple fact that it's stupid as hell to repeat all this shit every time some little punk is new here and decides to make another issue out of it.

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So go post something original, then

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"It's not peer pressure, its just your turn." - Unknown

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Originally posted by Sithiee:
... and finding out an artist is bad? well thats called risk! risk is a part of life, and if you cant accept it, then you must be really dumb...

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And finding out that the car you just bought doesn't work? Well, that's called risk! risk is a part of life, and if you can't accept it, then you must be really dumb... Let's repeal the consumer protection laws NOW! When you buy something you should accept the risk that it will be a complete ripoff! If you want to know what you are really going to get when you spend your money then you are really dumb!

(This post is not for the sarcasm impaired.)

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Originally posted by Sithiee:
that was a shitty example, considering a) ive never heard of a store without a return policy on things. b)ive never heard of a car dealership without test drives. c) you can sue someone for selling you a car that doesnt work, not for selling you a car in a color you decide you dont like.

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Think about this for a second - do you REALLY want to return every other album you buy because its crap? Granted, you can't protect anyone from their own stupidity, and that's fine. But consider: they have lemon laws for cars to protect people against the risk of buying a poor auto (ie people RIPPING you off), and i doubt you'd think twice about repealing them. Stop spewing out ignorance, Sith, and find something else to worry/rant about.

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when my friend recently bought an alero, they told him the contract wasn't binding until 1 week from the date he signed it... so if he hated the car for any reason within a week, he could bring it back.

um, just some stuff to chew on i guess.

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kuru
'if your children ever found out how lame you are, they'd kill you in your sleep.' -frank zappa

Sith, ya know, i really shouldn't be replying to you. That said, reading a post like that really makes me wonder where you are coming from. Do you feel that people like myself are morally inferior, or do you just enjoy arguing with people as an end in itself? In any case, it looks as though i'm attacking you rather than the issue...

must buy new radiohead album, must buy... . Actually, i'm listening to it right now, but it just doesnt' do anything for me. Guess i never really got into them much. But i'm definetly gonna grab Poe's new album when it comes out!

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"It's not peer pressure, its just your turn." - Unknown

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Originally posted by Sithiee:
well if you dont realize what your doing is wrong, then yeah, i guess you are morally inferior, i have far more respect for the people who do it and know its wrong, than those who try to pretend what theyre doing is 100\% ok.

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well if you ask me, its just as much of a crime to have to pay ฟ for a cd than it is to download the same album and get it for free. Forget even trying to listen to the radio or MTV for tunes. Now on the other hand, i don't mind at all paying ฮ+ to see groups in concert.

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"It's not peer pressure, its just your turn." - Unknown

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Originally posted by Sithiee:
oh, i see. you dont like capit[a]lism. you know, where they set their prices at whatever they want, and then if its too high people dont pay and they go under.

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Um, that's what they are doing:

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Lower the prices on CD's and maybe I'll start paying for music. Until then- FUCK YOU.
-TonnyDennis

Every system changes over time when people grow dissatisfied with it. Myself and MANY more people have grown dissatisfied with our current system of music distribution, and are in the process of changing it.
- hyperponic

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As hyperponic has pointed out, capitalism is driven forward by innovation. Morality issues aside, the RIAA needs to adapt and incorporate mp3s into their business model. The rules have changed, and the sooner the RIAA realizes this, the better it will be for them. The more time they waste fighting silly legal battles, the harder it will be for them to play catch-up.

Change or die. Those are the only choices available to them. Too bad they're too stupid to realize it.