Topic: Cars and Stereos
started by: StreetRaver
please reply with your ideas on what you would do to your car weather or not you want to street race it or compete in car shows and please send in your best ideas for detailing and spoilers
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Take XTC, then you wake up in the morning wondering "wheres my underwear"
I was thinking 383ci small block w/dished pistons, mildly aggressive cam, ram-air intake, twin turbos, 4 wheel independant suspension, disc brakes all around, all necessary cooling and safety equipment, and anything that's not needed for a comfortable ride taken out to lighten things up a bit.
now was that 85k just for a stereo setup or are you planning on squeezing a corvette under the hood of your honda or something?
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Originally posted by Tattered:
Caseman's kewl, he sometimes makes good posts based on small observations.
As for my own dream car... that would be an essay, 'cause I got it down to every last detail. Doesn't matter though because I'll never fucking be able to drive. (does anyone else here ever have the impulse to place a wager and try your hand at proving reincarnation?)
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~Anztac [ I'm just this guy, you know? ]
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Originally posted by DeadAnztac:
No, it would take k to get into the Amateur because in Amateur your only allowed to be in the car with ear protection. Professional your not even allowed within like a 100 Ft radius of the car without ear protection.
This has got to be the most ridiculous thing I have ever read.
This message has been edited by whiskey@throttle on September 06, 2001 at 09:32 AM
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All that I know there was no God for me
Force that shatters all, absence of mortality
anyway,
why a civic? too much money not enough performance imo. one thing i must ask of you: please don't get one of those stupid ass monza (i think) mufflers, ya know the ones that are 1.75" from the stock exshust then go into a 6-9" muffler. they sound like shit and any good muffler could give you the same amount of hp/torque.
well ill be back later to see whats new
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Originally posted by pengu1nn:
its a 91 celica gt-s. i want to make the the celica all-trac (4wd, turbo charged) but take the turbo off and put on a supercharger, instead of the crappie 135hp i got it will have over 200hp,
So how much crack are you smoking? If the car already has a turbocharger..and your giving it up for a supercharger...just take all of your money and put it in an envelope marked L33T_h4x0r_d00d, Virginia.
Also, there are police men in 'souped up' racer type cars to try and get others to race them (which smells vaguely of entrapment).
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Originally posted by whiskey@throttle:
This has got to be the most ridiculous thing I have ever read.
Amen to that. What's the point of having a sound system in your car if you can't listen to it in your car?
My question is, why the hell would you want to put ,000 worth of equipment into a shitty ฟ,000 car. It reminds me of the morons I see driving around in the civics and geo metros that they've had lowered and put the big, fat reverse wheels that stick out 6"+ from the side of the car.
"Yeah, I just paid Ū,500 for my car. Can I have some Ŭ,000 wheels to put on it so I look like a wannabe with a shitty car? Jesus, if you have that much money to sink into a vehicle, why don't you get a real car?
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Originally posted by Dark-Angel99:
How come {name removed} doesn't like you? I find you really funny :D
Never argue with and idiot...he may be doing the same thing
A Supra, looking stock, going up against a Volvo V70, looking like it's a shit kicker. Supra won. Why? The guy didn't spend money on cosmetics, only the nessesites. But under the hood was a completely different story. Just looking at the difference between the 2 engines, you could tell. The Volvo was nice, had some nice shiny parts, but the Supra you could see the turbo, the huge headers, the custom cylinder block...you get the idea...
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If I want your oppinion, I'll rattle my zipper.
my plymouth breeze will be all flash, no dash. i don't wanna play with anything under the hood (maybe paint the engine)
toys i want to put in it
rims
light tint windows (done)
cd changer (done)
alarm (done)
black light (done)
glow in the dark stars across the roof
strobe
better speakers (and fix the wiring)
i'm not sure if i want to put in a box in the trunk. i decided that it's gonna be a pimp mobile and if we want to get down and dirty one night (me and a chick) i want to beable to fold down the seat (maybe) i haven't really decided yet.
i don't want to redo the interior (although it could use it)
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Originally posted by [liquid] meta:
if we want to get down and dirty one night (me and a chick)
Umm... as opposed to what?
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Originally posted by RenegadeSnark:
If you have a problem with the average IQ around here, don't do things to lower it.
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Originally posted by ASCIIMan:
Umm... as opposed to what?
Let's not ask, actually.
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Originally posted by Beldurin:
What's the point of having a sound system in your car if you can't listen to it in your car?
Hahaha...ah, that made me cry. 
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Take XTC, then you wake up in the morning wondering "wheres my underwear"
screw the civic, get some other hype-ass import car if you've got money to spend.
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Originally posted by veilside:
and personally, i'd rather keep all that heavy stereo shit outta my car, because obviously, the lighter the car, the faster the car.
i agree... and hey, what have we here: < http://www.veilside.com >
they have some cool shit
This message has been edited by chmod on September 07, 2001 at 09:05 PM
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Originally posted by StreetRaver:
I wont be putting the money just into a system i'll be putting towards the engine because im going to be raceing it in amature raceing or something like that, the guy hasnt really told me what im going to be raceing in yet. well instead of the civic sence everyone thinks there shits but ok. i was thinking of re-doing the whole back seat so i only have one seat back there with 2" subs and 6x9's anchored above the subs on the celing of the back ((cant spell as you can see)) and the AMP rack behind the seat on the back dash. but thats still on the drawing board and might not happen. and the one thing i cant fucking stand are people who have the 10" or 12" subs in the trunk and let it rattle and make it sound so much like shit, but that can all be solved by a little thing called spray foam so that you spray it on the edge of your truck and let it dry and you could be surprised the diffrence it makes!. ok now i feal better *breathes*. ok Woof? not sure. and true what is the point in haveing a system if you cant be in the car, that i dont get well im out of this place for now
Ok your probably gonna need to get a little more educated on this befor you blow any dough. If you make it to show/compete in stereo competitions your are not gonna be able to race it. Your looking at about 700lbs of extra crap between amps, speakers, fiber board boxes, extra batteries, Hp robbing extra alternators, etc...
In the domestic world we call import racing CF racing, or Cheap Fuck racing. Most of the time people reduce weight by stripping most of the interior as opposed to actual engine/drivetrain mods to gain performance. If you look at a true street/rally racer they wont have a passenger seat, carpet, dash, stereo, heater, ac, roofliner, and in some cases the starter and battery will be removed after the car is started. You cant have a car that does both and is moderatly competetivly in either field.
I agree with veilside, get the M3.
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Take XTC, then you wake up in the morning wondering "wheres my underwear"
[img]http://www.infopop.com/Car Shit/1993_Honda_Civic.gif[/img]
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Take XTC, then you wake up in the morning wondering "wheres my underwear"
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Take XTC, then you wake up in the morning wondering "wheres my underwear"
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Originally posted by veilside:
roflmao, Cheap Fuck racing.. i never knew that. i agree with l33t all the way, all that stereo shit is just too much weight.. and yes, i've seen cars with no seats, stereo, ac, etc (even power steering..) i'd have to admit that's pretty hardcore. (they take out the battery? sick.. how's that done?) and if you don't have money for the M3 (could end up being 50-60 grand) i guess a civic wouldn't be that bad. it's just that they're so common, and most of them are just so badly done...
taking out car battery aint hard
u only really need it to start. i do beleive it requires a little work before it will work, but basically rather then working off of a battery and having the alternator charge it, they just work the car straight off the alternator. but as far as i know a battery is still needed to start the car, once the negine is running alternator will supply enough electricity to run the car.
edit: never mind.
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When 1337 hax0rs start impaling each other with swords and typing code with a hook on one hand, then they can modify the term "pirate."
This message has been edited by Observer on September 08, 2001 at 06:04 PM
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Take XTC, then you wake up in the morning wondering "wheres my underwear"
cars are like computers, once you figure them out, you should beable to throw anything in there.
i was just avoiding gay/dog/cat/rape jokes so :-P
as for stereo's... i've been doing stereo wokr in cars for years and at a maximum of 5k buying everything gold plated i could hit 170 db's off the dash in my civic. and that's including the whole changing the interior part.. whomever is telling you you have to se\pend 85k to create a competition car is out of their fucking mind.
it might just be the area that i'm in.. no wait, we're both in florida streetraver, and hell, i go to SlamFest every fucking year... i went in tampa this past november... it's all shit that major circuit crap.. just enter local shows and pick up flyers to the larger ones.. you'll mnake a name for yourself if you give it time...
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Take XTC, Then you wake up in the morning wondering "Wheres My Underwear?"
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Originally posted by StreetRaver:
I just got home from one of my friends house and he said that he could get his hands on a cd-rom that could double my HP in my car. that means if I get my car up to 250HP it would be 500HP after the upgrade.
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha phew.
Damn that was good. Unless if by cd-rom your friend means engine swap or if by "250HP it would be 500HP" he means "160 it would be 168" then hes full of shit.
The only way that would work is if that cd-rom has naked pictures of britney spears on it which you will sell to buy a real car with.
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"Kenny called, hes in jail"
-The guy on the couch.
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Originally posted by StreetRaver:
I just got home from one of my friends house and he said that he could get his hands on a cd-rom that could double my HP in my car. that means if I get my car up to 250HP it would be 500HP after the upgrade.I siked about the whole car thing,I'm still trying to make the webpage of the car pictures, detail advice and shit like that so give me a while and I'll get it up and running.
Haha!! Thats just like these idiots in my area. Every other Honda has a bigass tailpipe on it and guess what!! My car smokes them with stock everything...Even the shitass stanky paint-peeling off Hondas and Nissans have chrome rims and the bigass ghetto tailpipe. Its funny because they either sit so far back in their seat you cant see the top of their heads OR they have their head up against the window hunched sideways or their head is hanging out the window, like I want to see some dumbass ball cap turned sideways on some ghettomotherfucka. I suggest all the white trash wannabes in my area watch a movie called Whiteboyz, its like a full length version of the Offspring video for "Pretty Fly for a White Guy."
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All that I know there was no God for me
Force that shatters all, absence of mortality
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Originally posted by L33T_h4x0r_d00d:
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha phew.
Damn that was good. Unless if by cd-rom your friend means engine swap or if by "250HP it would be 500HP" he means "160 it would be 168" then hes full of shit.The only way that would work is if that cd-rom has naked pictures of britney spears on it which you will sell to buy a real car with.
Lol, Maybe the CD is an upgrade for the operating system on his car's computer chip.
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Originally posted by kornalldaway:
if it upgrades from Microsoft to Linux then the car will take longer to start, but once u get it goin it'll fly!
Nah, If it was originally MS, It wouldn't start. Although, the Double power statement would hold true from MS to Linux.
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"Kenny called, hes in jail"
-The guy on the couch.
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Originally posted by L33T_h4x0r_d00d:
maybe by CD rom he meant nitrous, BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW EXACTLY HOW THAT WORKS.
Yeah, the CD/Nitrous mistake is quite common. Must be because they are spelt completely different and have no relevance whatsoever.
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Take XTC, Then you wake up in the morning wondering "Wheres My Underwear?"
replacing, or using a cd-rom or however car manufacturers proceed to change the tables inside of a cars computer means nothing. the tables pre-set into a computer chip is for the gas meter. it tells the pump how much gas to put into each cylinder when a certain amount of air is present (from pushing the throttle which most people confuse and say "gas pedal")
changin these tables increases horsepower only by the shift in gas.. it doesn't actually increase the potential of your engine, your engine can only produce so much, and changing these tables helps that production by putting more gas in at lower air pressure levels.. not by much mind you.
I havne't completely read all of the thread out here for this topic, but if i've restated anything that someone else has said, i apologize...
also, to those ricers out there, four cylinder engine racing is stupid, but then again, ricing isn't about engine, it's about making your car look fast...
woops, went into a stupid rant.. apoloigies again.
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Originally posted by StreetRaver:
I realize that the cd may not up the HP by much but it should do a lot.
Me fail english. Thats unpossible.
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Originally posted by StreetRaver:
Oh and stop putting words in my mouth for me. I know what I'm talking about.
See above.
Changing your ECU will affect air metering, fuel metering, and ignition timing. Thats it. It is important for fine tuning an engine, but your performance increase will be >7\%. Your friend is bullshitting you. From that statement I doubt he even knows what a CD Rom is.
I doubt even with nitrous that a 4 cyl you put together would top 250 hp. I would suggest talking to snark, he can explain to you how the magic nitrous plum fairy works.
Thers an old saying "Theres no replacement for displacement." Those are words to live by.
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"Kenny called, hes in jail"
-The guy on the couch.
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"Computer games don't affect kids, I mean if Pac Man affected us as kids, we'd all run around in a darkened room munching pills and listening to repetitive music." - Kristian Wilson, Nintendo, Inc. 1989
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Originally posted by L33T_h4x0r_d00d:
Thers an old saying "Theres no replacement for displacement." Those are words to live by.
Bah, of course there is! it's called forced induction
Efficiency is the key my l33t hax0r friend
To SHOUTcasterPat: Yeah i'm gonna download and run civic.exe. Because thats the smartest thing i could do... please link more unknown .exe files I can run on my system.
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You are what you drive
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Originally posted by aventari:
please link more unknown .exe files I can run on my system.
Hhahahha, too true.
I know i was just dying to run it.
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Originally posted by EvilGenius:
is that the engines that are made by honda, including the H22, the Type-R and other useless peices of metal can't handle but between 9psi and 14psi (if you're lucky... you can get it to 15psi) basic civics (DX, to EX) can't even handle over 9psi...
On the 3 turbos Ive installed on imports (1 civic, 1 integra, 1 eclipse) The engines had already been tweaked by changing the pistons to forged, and having cylinders bored way out and sleaved with crome moly or steel inserts. The integra got to 27lbs befor we lost intrest. He promptly rearended a school bus at about 75 mph the next day.
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"The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once."
-- Buckaroo Banzai
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All that I know there was no God for me
Force that shatters all, absence of mortality
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Originally posted by aventari:
Bah, of course there is! it's called [b]forced inductionEfficiency is the key my l33t hax0r friend
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Hmm 2.4L with 25lbs boost or 6.3L with 25lbs of boost. You tell me which is gonna have more power?
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"The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once."
-- Buckaroo Banzai
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Quotation is a serviceable substitute for wit.
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Originally posted by EvilGenius:
you must forgive me L33T... the ricers i was raised by didn't know a god damned thing about engines..
Oh no contest there, I was just saying that there ARE proper ways to do things even if 99.99999\% of ricers dont. Shit, a mitsubishi engine will eat itself befor you put the turbo on it.
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"The only reason for time is so that everything doesn't happen at once."
-- Buckaroo Banzai
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Quotation is a serviceable substitute for wit.
Ah... *drool*
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I pinged your mom, and got 100\% packet loss.
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Originally posted by CNCJake:
But as I get some more cash I want to get: Large HKS turbo charger,
You may want to call the dudes at turbonetics and see what they can do for you. They do custom and hybrid impellers that are incredible. Also a smaller turbo can spin faster than a larger turbo and make more boost in the end. If you ever see a drag car with turbo they have usually have an impeller from 3"-5". Plus if they upgrade your current turbo all you have to do is bolt it back in place. You already know it fits and have the mounting equipment for it.
< http://www.turboneticsinc.com >
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Note to self: Stop writing your sig while you're drunk.
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I pinged your mom, and got 100\% packet loss.
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Originally posted by L33T_h4x0r_d00d:
You may want to call the dudes at turbonetics and see what they can do for you.
< http://www.turboneticsinc.com >
I second that! L33t is correct again. You COULD waste your money on a dollar turbo from HKS and pay a premium for the name, or you could do it right and have the turbo done by Turbonetics. I have a 50-trim T3 .48 A/R w/ clipped compressor from them thats great and I paid 輛. Granted a regular T3 will be too small of a turbo for you, but it's a good reference.
With out knowing much about your motor, I tentatively recommend getting a T3/T4 hybrid, clipped compressor wheel and a ball-bearing centersection. Have it ported out, or extrude-honed, (or buy a ษ dollar porting kit and do it yourself along with portmatching, like me :] )
What kind of turbo is stock on that thing?
And L33t: I agree 25psi on a 6.3l will demolish a 1.8l w/ 25psi (and be the most fun thing to drive EVER), but lets see a car with a 6.3l and 25psi handle an autocross course. For less than ษ,000. You can make a VW run 25psi with < in mods and run for 100,000 miles. How much would it cost to make a 6.3l V8 car do that AND handle descently? (I'm seriously wopndering, i have no idea)
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Originally posted by aventari:
And L33t: I agree 25psi on a 6.3l will demolish a 1.8l w/ 25psi (and be the most fun thing to drive EVER), but lets see a car with a 6.3l and 25psi handle an autocross course. For less than ษ,000. You can make a VW run 25psi with < in mods and run for 100,000 miles. How much would it cost to make a 6.3l V8 car do that AND handle descently? (I'm seriously wopndering, i have no idea)
Well the 6.3 is not a sports car production engine anymore, and adding a turbo to a v8 is usually a costly affair(aside from some thunderbirds and diesels its a custom job). although this may violate current rally cross regulations(the dont allow many V-8s right now) the ideal setup would probably be a chevy 5.7 or a ford 4.6 with a centrifugal supercharger.
The displacement of the average V8 changes the characteristics of a turbo. The only time turbos add significant advantages is during straight line racing. If you run a turbo that makes more power than a centrifugal supercharger it most likely will have a 2,3 or 4 second spool up delay/turbo-lag. That delay is not an issue when you can spool it up while sitting at a light waiting for it to turn green, but when you have to alter your speed and engine rpm in turns youve lost all the advantage. The C-supercharger offers close to turbo efficiency with 0 lag.
Also most V8s are RWD which requires a different driving style when driving on dirt/gravel roads. The torque that the modified V8 would generate would probably hurt you in a turn by wanting to break the rear end loose.
As for suspension, theres not much out there that Ive seen. Since this is the exact setup im looking for(equally good in the turns as well as the straight aways) and theres nothing premade its costing me a big chunk of change. Next week the price tag will hit บk, but Im building it to take a nuclear blast. You could probably get away with some new springs and revalved shocks.
Long story short. Your talking new shocks, springs, a supercharger and youd have a machine that would keep Tommy MacInine on his toes.
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This message has been edited by L33T_h4x0r_d00d on November 07, 2001 at 08:48 PM
My only V-8 experience are the SBC's in my Dads 73 Van, and my brothers 84 Chevy pickup. We pulled the 350's and put in 400's. The van kicked some ass with the turbo-350 (tranny :-D) and my bro's pickup is an insane 4x4 monster. But neither are even close to as quick or as fun to drive as my little 81 Scirocco, or my dad's stock 16v Scirocco.
So I've never really driven a V-8 CAR, my opinion from seeing them at the track is they can't handle for shit no matter what. Thats why I love small high output turbo 4 bangers. Kick 99\% ass on the stoplight drags, win 100\% in the twisties.
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Funny....How one can just rip ones heart out of ones flesh......
If you really want massive power, handling,, to win in the straight aways 100\% and in the twisties 100\% get a bike.
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Veistran
- Sarcasm is just one more of the free services that we offer.
It's got a nice big V-8 with 308 horses.
My "car stero" is the cassette adpater of my portable CD player.
But you oughta see how people get the hell out of my way on the highway. "Move over, 4200 lbs of American steel coming."
It does NOT stop on a dime and give change.
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kuru
'dancing is the vertical expression of horizontal desire.'
-robert frost
quote:heh some has watched "Fast and the Furious" before..
crotch rockets will rule the day!
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Funny....How one can just rip ones heart out of ones flesh......
This message has been edited by StreetRaver on November 08, 2001 at 11:28 AM
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"Marla said that she might die at any moment, and the only tragedy is that she didn't"--fight club
please feel free to ignore anything i happen to incoherently utter, because, yes, i am a pompus ass.
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kuru
'dancing is the vertical expression of horizontal desire.'
-robert frost
did i mention puke green?
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This message has been edited by aventari on November 08, 2001 at 11:40 PM
The idea is tempting for my Satellite but the ones I've seen are based off of the Ford 9". Would the handling improvments justify giving up my plan for a DANA 60?
I read an article in a motorcycle magazine:
The (then) top of the line Yamaha vs. a Viper
The bike had the straights but the car had the curves. They were driving on a public road. The 4 tires had more traction and, therefore, the car could maintain speed without worrying about unknown traffic or road conditions around the next bend.
Sorry, I don't remember what magazine.
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Originally posted by 1LT:
L33T, Have any experience with aftermarket IRS?
The idea is tempting for my Satellite but the ones I've seen are based off of the Ford 9". Would the handling improvments justify giving up my plan for a DANA 60?
Where did you find it and how much? That would be fucking sweet. Not only does a independant rear kick ass for cornering, it rocks in the straight aways too. There are god knows how many companies that make U joints that have chevy/dodge style on one side and ford side on the other. Spicer comes to mind and they rock hardcore style. If it were me, id go with the 9" even if it was a fixed axel design. Theres more cariers, posi, spool and gear companies for ford than for dana style.
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Originally posted by 1LT:
I read an article in a motorcycle magazine:
The (then) top of the line Yamaha vs. a Viper
The bike had the straights but the car had the curves. They were driving on a public road. The 4 tires had more traction and, therefore, the car could maintain speed without worrying about unknown traffic or road conditions around the next bend.
The dude on the bike must have had 1 hand and no legs. Even a katana (they are the bikes that all the other bikes laugh at) could beat a viper in the turns. That yamaha R1 should have left him 2 states back. Unless it was some sort of ghost viper or from another dimension who didnt adhere to this worlds physics.
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I haven't had sex that good since grade school. -marla
This message has been edited by L33T_h4x0r_d00d on November 09, 2001 at 11:34 AM
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When 1337 hax0rs start impaling each other with swords and typing code with a hook on one hand, then they can modify the term "pirate."
41000kms on that car, waxed metallic blue paint, that chrome/stainless steel trim all around, the leather-like vinyl on the back half of the car, and the classic Crown Vic shiny wheel covers. No dual-exhaust, but its still hella powerful. I love the sound of the 5.0. Our other 97 4.6L Crown Vic LX doesn't sound anywhere near as good, but its much faster cuz it isn't a big box and its much more aerodynamic. I like the digital dash/climate control, power everything, and the auto-dimming rearview mirror.
In either case, I'm drivin a big car and ppl move outta my way when I'm drivin. Last Thursday I was drivin my friend home after school. We were on this 2 lane road goin the same way and these girls in a green Civic were following the OLD lane markings, making it impossible for me to pass them with my car. So I rode in their blind spot for like 20 seconds and they still didn't move so I laid on the horn, then they moved and I floored it and blew them away. 4.6L power! So the lesson of that story was that my car is a big mofo and stuff..
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When 1337 hax0rs start impaling each other with swords and typing code with a hook on one hand, then they can modify the term "pirate."
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Originally posted by 1LT:
[B
I read an article in a motorcycle magazine:
The (then) top of the line Yamaha vs. a Viper
The bike had the straights but the car had the curves. They were driving on a public road. The 4 tires had more traction and, therefore, the car could maintain speed without worrying about unknown traffic or road conditions around the next bend.Sorry, I don't remember what magazine. [/B]
Yeah, see, no. 'Cause no matter how much that "twice the friction" of having 4 wheels might do for cornering, the simple fact that the Viper weighs 3,400 lbs stock, and a bike might weigh a few hundred pounds... yeah, that pretty much settles it.
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~Anztac [ Pertinaciously disconsolate ]