Forum: The Classroom
Topic: lets see what you can do......
started by: SLATE

Posted by SLATE on Jun. 01 2000,23:20
hmm wonder what type of advice one can get on detnet........
well, please be serious about this.....
im 16 (10th grade) shes 15 (9th)
now the situation:

this chick im really tight with used to like me
but when she liked me, i liked someone else..... that was 2 years ago
so now i like her a lot and she has no feelings for me (in that way)
what to do????

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Posted by Anztac on Jun. 02 2000,01:37
I doubt you get any serious advice out of these people. My advice would be along the lines of persue, persue, and do it some more. Either she'll get really pissed (in which case you probably wouldn't want her anyways) or she'll start diggin you again. And if that's not good enough advice this is the best I can give: Carpe Diem.

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Posted by DuSTman on Jun. 02 2000,08:20
There's always hypnotherapy and mind-control techniques.
Posted by Ansible on Jun. 02 2000,08:22
Why cant I get laid? It's not like i'm on the computer ALL day. only around 8hrs.
Posted by Wolfguard on Jun. 02 2000,08:23
if you love something set it free, if it comes back to you it is your forever. If it dont come back stalk it till it files a restraining order.

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Posted by BM_Ray on Jun. 02 2000,10:09
Bah! Don't ask me for advice.

You'd probably be better off asking a wall how it holds up the ceiling-
You wouldn't get an answer, but at least the wall would know what it's talking about.

On a more serious note, just ask her out. See how it goes.

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Posted by Proteun on Jun. 02 2000,11:44
The best advice I ever heard was, "Don't want what you can't have"
But in this situation, i don't know if you can't have this girl. Have you persued a relationship with her lately? Take her on a date maybe, f*ck her brains out, buy her ice cream. Try some of these things, and see what happens.

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Posted by SLATE on Jun. 02 2000,11:53
quote:
Originally posted by Proteun:
The best advice I ever heard was, "Don't want what you can't have"
But in this situation, i don't know if you can't have this girl. Have you persued a relationship with her lately? Take her on a date maybe, f*ck her brains out, buy her ice cream. Try some of these things, and see what happens.


I've asked her if i could do the second... didnt work..
im trying for the first now..
but shes not diggin it.... she wants to 'just be friends...' you know how it is..
and it blows major balls...

also, she is afraid of commitment (did i say that in my first post?)

also, thanks to you who did reply with something reasonable...

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Posted by Kayy on Jun. 02 2000,20:37
y0 slate, take some advice from me, I've been around this girl/women game a while and I know a few ins and outs (mostly accompanied by those lovely bubbly-squelchy sounds that happen when... ).

If you really want to be with her, and she isnt interested in being anything but "just friends" and is afraid of commitment - Ask her this "If you are afraid of commitment so much, why are you committing your relationship with me to a "just friends" level? I mean, if you were so afraid of commitment then you wouldnt even be friends with me.." and if she answers that intelligently and still manages to come out on top and maintaining that "just friends" stuff, then you really are screwed, and the only other alternative is as follows :-

Take her off to one side sometime, and have some meaningless conversation, and when its half through and you're running out of things to say, say this - "Hey, just to go off topic for a second, what would you say if I asked you out at the time when you really liked me?" if she says she would have been happy and you would probably still be together, ask her another question along the lines of "Well if you're sure that we would still be together and you're sure you'd have been happy with me then, why are you so sure that we cant be happy together now?" if she answers intelligently with a rational and logical explanation, then as I said before, you're really screwed.

Other than what I just said, there really is not many other solutions, my favourite after that last conversational item I mentioned would just be to do one thing as you are parting - When she turns away from you and is about to leave, grab her hand, pull her back, and give her you're best most passionate kiss you can, and give it like you mean it. If she pushes you away, you're TOTALLY screwed. If she steps back and says "wow!" you might be getting somewhere. If it gets any better than that, get it on home video and then upload it to the web so I can find out what happens

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Posted by SLATE on Jun. 02 2000,22:49
quote:
Originally posted by Kayy:

Take her off to one side sometime, and have some meaningless conversation, and when its half through and you're running out of things to say, say this - "Hey, just to go off topic for a second, what would you say if I asked you out at the time when you really liked me?" if she says she would have been happy and you would probably still be together, ask her another question along the lines of "Well if you're sure that we would still be together and you're sure you'd have been happy with me then, why are you so sure that we cant be happy together now?" if she answers intelligently with a rational and logical explanation, then as I said before, you're really screwed.



ok..
i asked..
the dreadful answer man.......
thats all need be said

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Posted by Cyrino on Jun. 02 2000,22:50
Wow, kayy, that's pretty smooth...
Good call! Do that!

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Posted by Kayy on Jun. 03 2000,13:49
Slate man, bummer, sorry it didnt work out this time round.. but then theres always tomorrow, right?

Who knows, she may change her mind about it after thinking about what you said... It happens, really.

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Cyrino, like I said, I been around in the game for longer than I care to remember, I've been beaten up by jealous ex's, rejected, hit (by men and women, mainly men stickin up for women), been attacked with weapons (of all kinds but guns), been picked up then put down for one of my friends (common where I live), and its happened sooo many times.. And still I come out smiling asking for more.

I may not be the most good-looking guy, but when it comes to the one on one boy-girl/man-woman situation, I got a lot of experience in talking to people and more often than not raising a smile if not something more.

And as you can see from what I posted for Slate, I aint afraid to help a guy or a girl out when its asked for or I think its needed.

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I just hope that Slate keeps his head up and stays friends with the girl, 'cause there aint one thing worse in the world than losing a damn good friend over something like this.. it hurts, I been through it.

Keep smiling man, at least you're friends right? who knows what the girl may think tomorrow, or next week, just dont pressure her into something she doesnt feel happy with, you've said your piece, she knows exactly how you feel, if she comes round to that then you'll be feelin like a million big ones. Live in hope, its all there is left in this world

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Posted by SLATE on Jun. 03 2000,13:57
shes terrible... (in a good way)
shes a big tease (again, in a good way)... for example, last night, she asked me what I would do if she was laying neked on my bed.. damn man... then she told me her hands were in her pants while i was telling her.. once again.. DAMN!!!
but anyways, thanks for helping... someday one of us will realize something and things will be better..

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Posted by Cyrino on Jun. 04 2000,00:26
Kayy, I just got canned by my g/f. It's pretty shitty, but you can't really do much about it. She says that she doesn't have time right now, but she still wants to be friends and maybe go out again when she has more time. So, I'm pretty pissed off right now and I don't think that I will make the effort to keep communication up, but I mean, if she calls, then we can talk, but I think I'm going to look for someone else.

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Posted by Hellraiser on Jun. 04 2000,00:46
You were lucky to even have had a g/f, I have had no luck at all in that department. But things are looking up with college and all now, there's a few more prospects for me than there were when I was home-schooled.

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Posted by SLATE on Jun. 04 2000,00:51
quote:
Originally posted by Cyrino:
I'm pretty pissed off right now and I don't think that I will make the effort to keep communication up, but I mean, if she calls, then we can talk, but I think I'm going to look for someone else.

That wouldn't be a smart move... don't let your emotions control your thoughts....
Do you love her, honestly?
Come in the chatroom and we can talk

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Posted by incubus on Jun. 04 2000,04:04
Yeah, to the guy who got dumped ... I can offer my advice, take it or leave it. I've been around, loved and lost, got back, lost again, you name it. Not quite up to the Errol-Flynnesqueness of Kayy but as most of my friends are women you get the jist of the way they think.

If the woman is dropping you on that basis (she doesn't have time for you) then make damn sure you play it right. The usual woman who will say something like that will want you on a string, no commitments, having her cake and eating it. I been there too

The question really is, do you want her back or not? If you don't, then you are ok - play it easy, you'll have a good time. If you want her back, that's another thing entirely...

...there's the long-distance approach, where you can just look independant and likeable, generally be on your best behaviour around her (usually being the perfect gentleman in her prescence helps a lot) and I think you have a good chance of her realising what she's missing and warming to you. But then again ...

...theres the get-her-back-as-soon-as-possible approach. If she can't be bothered and she's taking you for granted, that being the reason for ending it, then it's pretty easy. Make her jealous. There are many ways to do this. Do you have any attractive female friends you are close to? I luckily do ... and a good thing to do is invite said friend and target out to a club, or whatever. Be charming, witty, and genuinely funny, don't actually do anything with said friend, but be slightly more warm towards them than to the target. If you are getting hints at offers, make sure you politely refuse. The next time you see the target theres a very big chance she'll be envious as fuck, and want you back.

Anyway, im not sleazy, its just human nature we're talking about here - and its not nice to be on the receiving end of a dumping

Good luck mate!

Mike

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Posted by Cyrino on Jun. 04 2000,11:43
Incubus, I think that i'm going to do something along the lines of your third bit of advice. I mean, she really pissed me off, I mean the reasons she gave, I don't know if I really want her back that bad.

Anyway, we'll see what happens.

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Posted by SLATE on Jun. 05 2000,22:05
shes startin tolike me i think!!

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Posted by Kayy on Jun. 06 2000,01:44
w0000000t!!!

She starting to come round then Slate?

Just make sure its not just your over-sexually-frustrated mind telling you that

On a more serious note though man, if she is starting to like you more, then I'm happy for you, it shows that some things really are worth hanging onto

Just a shame that I cant find me a girl on this side of the globe that I can happily fall in love with, most of the ones I want are in Canada or the mid-US...

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Posted by SLATE on Jun. 06 2000,06:22
quote:
Originally posted by Kayy:
Just make sure its not just your over-sexually-frustrated mind telling you that

Just a shame that I cant find me a girl on this side of the globe that I can happily fall in love with, most of the ones I want are in Canada or the mid-US...



no, she told me, 'i like you.. and i want to go out with you, but im afraid that i'll hurt you'.........
ok... thats good i guess.. and i know what you mean with the second part of the quote..

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Posted by incubus on Jun. 06 2000,09:37
Yeah, how come all the best girlies are basically where you're not? Like mainland Europe or Canada ...

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Posted by Proteun on Jun. 06 2000,18:59
Curses indeed. Long distance relationships are way to taxing to be worth it. The night that me and my girlfriend agreed to become exclusive was the night before she went on a famy vacation for a week, so i was doomed talking to the girl i newly loved on the phone, rather than in person. and even though I new she would be back, it was still a pain. Be sure to keep it local, always local.

Now, i don't know if this ever works, but perhaps you've been too easy for her, there's nothing for her to desire. I know a girl that said that, she fell crazy for a guy then she said that she was going to play hard to get. I think that's the most rediculous idea, hard to get Bah!. But maybe it works for some people, maybe it would work for you. But if you try it, and it backfires, don't kill me ok?

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Posted by Kayy on Jun. 07 2000,05:03
Mainland Europe isnt a problem, I just have to hop into the car and I can be there in a few hrs.

I just cant afford to fly halfway round the world to be with a girl, even if I am madly in love with her... (*curses Paula for being in Canada*) ...it just isnt feasible right now.

oh, and Slate, good luck man.

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Posted by SLATE on Jun. 07 2000,15:00
SLATE = rejected

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Posted by SLATE on Jun. 07 2000,20:31
i dont know what happened!

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Posted by Octavian on Jun. 08 2000,00:58
i really shouldn't be giving advice on relationships, considering i have had very bad luck in ever starting one. but i have helped friends through some very interesting ones, and i can usually fix things if i know both parties well. i don't know you, but here goes:

make your decision. let's assume you are gonzo-nuts about here and decide to confront her about it. best case scenario is that she says yes and you two live happily ever after. if she gives the same bs again (i've never met someone who can't make time for someone they really like), cool it off and probably stay away for a little while. make contact once in a while, but nothing overboard. whatever you do, don't just stay around her and talk to her all the time and be with her just to hear her voice. it only makes things worse, trust me on this one. come back after a time and maybe try again. if she doesn't want it, don't force it on her.

or, you can decide that she's really not worth it and that there's a lot of other fish in the sea. i mean christ, man, you're sixteen. you'll dig another chick just as much in another couple of months. and if you decide not to go for it, for god's sake stay away from flirting on the phone. that's the absolute worst thing you can do (again, i know from experience, too many times. . .). it'll be hard (no pun intended), try to switch subjects. i've completely broken it off with girls like that, and i consider myself a much better and mentally healthier person for it. it'll hurt, but it will hurt a lot more if you drag it out knowing you can't have her.

that's my opinion, not worth much, but here to be ignored nonetheless.


Posted by Nero on Jun. 08 2000,05:44
rejected!? wtf? if she's starting to come around, what in the hell happened to cause that?

kayy, i now have infinitely more respect for england. that was the most rational thing i've heard in ages. though i wonder about the passionate kiss thing... hey, i'll just have to try it some day.

i've broken off several (serious) relationships and had several broken off. i think i'm one in the positive if positive means i'm the asshole, though that probably isn't something to be proud of. my advice is that if you break it off, break it off. don't even think about calling/e-mailing her. if she comes back once, be nice about it. if she comes back twice, consider whether she's just pathetic or if there was something there. i've never had one come back twice. if she leaves you, find out real quick like what you're willing to do to get her back. if it's not much, it wasn't meant to be. if it's a lot (never been there yet, either) do what you gotta do. i.e. ask kayy.

now go listen (download from napster, whatever...) to the rolling stones' "time is on my side" or watch fallen.


Posted by Kayy on Jun. 08 2000,12:41
quote:
Originally posted by Nero:

kayy, i now have infinitely more respect for england.
if it's a lot (never been there yet, either) do what you gotta do. i.e. ask kayy.

You mean to say you had little respect for it before? damn, I thought everybody loved england... heh

And that other line, heh, at least ya got confidence to point ppl in my direction

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Slate... d00d.. total bummer, sorry things didnt work out for you man, I just hope it wasnt my fault.. advice is a good thing to ask for, but it's not often the best thing to take if you know what I mean (like medicine really).

Basically, if you're in that situation (totally screwed) then I suggest you wallow in depression and self pity for a few days, then have a few beers (I dont condone underage drinking, even though I've done it myself for long enough) and then snap yerself out of it and go get some kid!

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Posted by Nero on Jun. 09 2000,05:35
yeah man, i lost confidence with dunkirk. not to mention the collapse of the empire. it was all built back up, but i just saw arsenal fc get beat 4-1 (!!!!) on penalty kicks in the uefa cup final. that just goddamn sucks. they were the better team, but not in bs pk's.

it's better to have loved and lost... no, it's better to have loved and lost, to have loved someone else and lost, to have yet another and another and, well, ass is good. don't knock it 'til you've tapped it.


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