Topic: Is religion the cause of all warez?
started by: suckit
It all started when the pope wanted to try out the new first person shooter "Bashing the Bishop" to see if any of his friends were in it, before buying it.
Actually, we're both taking the piss, but wouldn't the Gutenberg bible be considered 'warez' in today's standards? I mean, those guys enabled the mass distribution of a previously restricted text. The bible was misinterpreted by many of those in power at the time for gain and power by keeping the masses ignorant. Mass distribution ended this and empowered those people.
Quite wierd when you think of that.
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No, I don't think religion is the cause of all warez. There is a simple reason for this as well.
There is no one type of person that uses warez. People of all kinds and religions (or no religions) use and provide warez. It also wasn't started by one person. Maybe the name but not the idea of "pirating".
I do have my ideas of why it happens though.
People, by nature, are "democratic" (I hope I am using the word correctly, and if not, I think you will know what I mean). It doesn't matter if they beleive in it or not, or even if their government follows it (none really do) or not. The "general public" will do what they can to get that the "general public" wants.
If you're not following me (I don't even know if I am), let me explain this again. Democracy is supposed to be based on "the people get what the people want", more or less, right? They decide what happens and the governemnt and everyone/thing else is supposed to adapt to them.
Well, with warez (everything from MP3s to downloading ũ,000+ programs) the people are getting what they want. They want music, they want the programs and either they don't have the money or don't want to pay for them. Is this bad? I don't know, the majority of the people seem to be doing it so I can not see how it could be unless everyone is evil.
Now, money isn't the boss. The companies lose their control unless they do something about it and obviously the people weren't happy with how they were controling it before.
The funny thing is all the companies do the WRONG thing. They raise their prices. All this does is turn more and more people toward warez and other forms of pirating.
Us little people are goping to get what we want whether you like it or not. Either you adapt to us, or you cumble and fall. The funny things is you are us and we are you. We are all humans and the only reason "you" exist is because of "us". "We" are the ones that matter, and not doing things for "us" is ridiculous.
Ok... I hope this made sense and isn't too strange. ;-)
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The general public is comprised primarily of idiots who can't make up their own minds about anything. The media pulls the strings and decides what the 'general public' should like this month (Britney Spears anyone? Phantom Menace? Meesa thinka so). The people who wield the power control the media. And religion still wields the most power in today's world. So religion decides what the 'general public's' tastes will be. Because religion performs this job so well, piracy and warez are caused. Why would religion do this? I can only speculate, but my best guess is as device to separate those who will get into heaven/nirvana/goodplace vs. those who'll go to hell/samsara/badplace. Or maybe they just need extra money. I dunno.
(note: My reasoning in this message is complete poppycock. Take it seriously at your own risk).
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Originally posted by Hellraiser:
What would really be interesting would be if someone could tell me if religion is the cause of all whores.
Not all whores, but probably some. Read up on the Victorian era and the Madonna-whore dichotomy. (heh)
second, whats everyone favorite religion, and whats your favorite offshoot of christianity?
my fav religion would be judaism, just because jews rock, and we all know it.
best offshoot would be either lutherans, because of the situation it was founded under (luther got pissed that the catholic church was accepting bribes to let people out of penance) was about good ethics, or methodists, because well..yknow...methodists!
im a little incoherent right now, read it over and over a few times and it might make sense.
Second favorite is Buddhism (I have no idea if that is spelled correctly) because Buddha was one of the greatest minds there ever was. Again, modern-day Buddhists have strayed far from the concepts that Buddha taught, it seems that almost all religions degenerate from the ideals they were started on.
Personally, I think organized religion is bullshit, but I'm all for each person believing what they choose to believe. There's just too much hypocracy in religion (or more accuratly, demonstrated by "religious" people) for it to be credible, Christianity especially. I wish people could be honest. That's the one thing this world needs more than anything else, is honesty.
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Favorite religion is Buddhism because it's agnostic (consequently one of the few compatible with my atheism). Also, Buddhism's encouragement of contemplation and self-exploration appeal to me.
Like Hellraiser, I believe that much of the meaning and intent behind a religion is twisted when it becomes organized. I think this happens because of the power structures and hierarchies inherent in any organization.
I think that the personal epiphenies brought about by religious experience are the most important aspects of a religion. I think that many religions are equally capable of facilitating these epiphenies, and a lot of the major religions have more in common than a lot of people would like to admit.
my favorite religion is the one where they blasphemize other religious texts, claiming "We are the sole God worshipers" while letting their own sects and followers incorporate modern lifestyles, vices, and habits into daily religious obligation.
My second favorite religion is the one where they blow up buildings, kill lots of people and torture them, then poison all the followers and as many civilians as possible, creating as much disturbance as possible without getting arrested (Cause they all die in the end ). Hopefully someone who had a repressed and violent childhood and has severe emotional instabilities will create that one and name it after themselves.
.. warez cause wars and whores cause warts .. use antivirus protection =P
Actually, my favorite religion is buddism, cause like previously mentioned it's very similar to my atheistic beliefs.
I don't know enough about Christianity to give you an offshoot (sorry, mom). 
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Uh.. how about Taoism?
Doh... Taoism isn't a religion. Actually, anyone that uses the word "Taoism" got nothing from the Tao Te Ching and doesn't understand it at all.
Everyone is a "taoist" just some know it and others don't. All the Tao Te Ching talks about is how things are. No religion or other BS. People I guess just dont' realize it and like with religions turn it into something it's not.
Ok, I'm getting too serious again hehe.
Hmmm... All religions suck. None of them are what they are supposed to be.
Then again, if it helps you, fine. Just don't use it as an excuse and don't push the damned thing on me and I don't care what you follow.
Fair enough? hehe.
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Originally posted by Hellraiser:
Personally, I think organized religion is bullshit, but I'm all for each person believing what they choose to believe. There's just too much hypocracy in religion (or more accuratly, demonstrated by "religious" people) for it to be credible, Christianity especially. I wish people could be honest. That's the one thing this world needs more than anything else, is honesty.
Hellraiser I couldn't agree with you more... the more we restrict people in traditions and practices of organised religions the more we deny ourselves our basic human/animal drives... and I don't need to quote Freud for us to all realise what happens next....
Honesty is the best policy... but then again - I suppose I'm a hypocrite too in a way then.
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