Forum: The Classroom
Topic: Pot
started by: Rol3x
Posted by Rol3x on Jul. 20 2000,23:45
Move out of 'Alchohal' and post in here about weed, if youve got more to say, keep the posts under the right topics.
How many of you smoke weed? If you do, why? If you dont, why not? Whats with this talk about hash, ive never tried it, didnt think that many people smoked it. My dads from Sweden, an he used to when he was a kid.-
Posted by Hellraiser on Jul. 20 2000,23:55
Never tried the stuff. Never plan on trying it. My philosophy of life is that I should always be in the sanest most rational state of mind mentally, and the healthiest physically. I have never tried drugs of any kind in my life, neither have I tried smoking. I don't plan on doing either because neither one is an intelligent thing to do.------------------
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Posted by *Feste* on Jul. 21 2000,00:58
I experimented with pot and a variety of other substances a few years ago... didn't become hooked (thank God!)... and don't mess with it anymore. I'm glad I gave it a try... at least I can join a conversation about it without being *completely* ignorant... but then again I'm glad it wasn't for me... because I've seen many people go the wrong way. My thoughts boil down to: If you wanna give it a try... go for it... just know at all times what you throwing away....------------------
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Posted by DrunkNigel on Jul. 21 2000,16:26
Ok, I have never tryed any illegal substances in my life, ever. I don't plan to either. I'm sure it's fun the first few minutes, but I've read too much on how fucked up people get from doing too much.Drugs are bad, mmkay? ------------------
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Posted by Rol3x on Jul. 21 2000,22:12
i used to be like that. i remember my mom told me before i went into high school that she'd pay me a minimum of 100.00$ if i never did any drugs during high school. i was so set on never touchin weed or anything like that. i dont know what happened, but i just decided fuck it, i wanted to try it, see what its like, when i did, i liked it, but im not some hardcore stoner, its been several weeks since i smoked last. one of the things about drugs as a whole that pisses me off, has to do with how parents(though not all of them) and even more so agencies that put out ads against drugs. i cant stand these things, and i guess maybe this should be posted in the rants section but i dont want to take the time. i hear ads every day onj the radio or on tv about like " A pipe to a 6 grader" and shows some pipes like you would have under your sink. then "a pipe to a 7 grader" and shows a bowl. thats bullshit i didnt have a clue about that shit until the end up 8 grade, and more importantly, little kids learn more about weed, or pipes from those damn commercials or ads then they do in school until they get older. if anything these ads just speed up the process. also, who the hell actually listens to these ads and thinks, well shit, if these people i dont know are telling me i shouldnt smoke these pipe things that they just showed me, even though some of my close friends who i care what they think about me, tell me i might want to smoke some weed with them, i think ill just listen to the ad, not my friends.
another thing, peer-pressure is a giant pile of fudge-packing, bullshit, ive never had friends who have tried to convince me to smoke or do anything else, the thing about kids who smoke weed or do any other drugs, they are selfish, trust me, when ive got weed, no one else gets any unless they payed for part of the bag or if they are matchin me. every once in a while if im nice ill share, but ive never once tried to make someone smoke. ive never known anyone who has had someone do that to them. and i have asked several people i know..... so much talk in health class thats bullshit.
sorry if i talked a little too much. but this stuff pisses me off.
(dont even get me started on what could have been done with the money spent on the ads, or government programs to fight kids who smoke weed, when weed is such a good opportunity for the economy.)
Posted by Bozeman on Jul. 21 2000,23:39
Those who have read "Zodiac" by Neal Stephenson know what I'm saying when I say I subscribe to Sangamon's Principle. To sum it up for those who haven't read it, the bigger the molecule, the more dangerous it is. THC is a pretty big fucking molecule, along with various opiates and LSD. They should be legalized, in my opinion because the government doesn't have the right to tell you what to do with your body. If you want to fry your brain with Heroin, you should be able to. Plus if they legalize it, drug lords go out of business because you can buy it in a shop, minorities will no longer crowd the jails, because that's what a lot are convicted of, and asshole politicians who base their career on telling others what to do would be out of a job. However, labels should be put on the drugs, because people have a right to know if amphetamines can destroy brain cells. Real warnings, not those lame "advisories" like on cigarettes. They should list all possible side effects. Also, pass more rigid laws against driving or operating heavy machinery under the influence. We can't have someone freaking out while driving a Hazardous Materials truck. But, if we can only get one, we should get pot. One field of pot can make more paper that a similar area of redwood trees, and pot grows back in one season. For more insight on pot, listen to Jello Biafra's "I Blow Minds For a Living."
Posted by Cyrino on Jul. 22 2000,04:23
I have a feeling that weed will be legallized in 5-10 years. Once the baby boomers are out of power and the more open-minded people are out of power, they will realize how much profit there would be, with taxation and such. I mean, it really isn't that bad for you, in moderation, it is better for you than drinking. Also, I used to smoke up regularily, but have slowed down on it lately, because it is a fund consumer. Most of the time I would prefer it to drinking, but it depends on the mood I'm in. As for the drugs I have done, I did weed the most, have done hash (is good because doesn't leave the stench and there are more options on how to smoke it), I have done oil (as far as I'm concerned, it's a bum's drug and I don't like it), and I have done shrooms (is the best drug in my books, it gives you a cool high, you don't have to smoke it, and you can put it in baked goods). Now, I haven't had the opportunity to try any of the harder stuff (extasy, acid, etc), but would go as far as e, and that's it. As for the really hard stuff (crystal meth, cocaine, heroin, etc), I would never concider doing any of them. ------------------
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Posted by Sithiee on Jul. 22 2000,05:21
i am one of the most straight edge people you will ever meet, and yet somehow im not a complete geek. i dont understand it entirely myself, but i dont really care...
Posted by Sithiee on Jul. 22 2000,15:59
you realize though, if it is legalized, the govt is gonna tax the fuck out of it...youll probably pay the same amount you do now, if not a shitload more...
Posted by Rol3x on Jul. 22 2000,17:14
come on now, any self-respecting pot smoker knows very well that you can very easily eat weed and not smoke it. hell you can make cannibutter out of it. (basicly just thc extracted from the pot and made into a buttery film like substance with can be put on anything you can think of) you can also put it in brownies, but that should be common knowledge to everyone. i hope it will be legal in 5-10, i think we should just slap an age limit on it like alchohal, 18 or 21, i dont care, ill be old enough by then. its less harmfull then alchohal, or at least thats my opinion, and most importantly, as you all know well know it can make clothing far more durable and cheap then cotton, although that is rally the hemp plant, which i will stress IS NOT WEED! you could smoke 40 truckloads of the dankest fucking hemp there is and youd get nothin but some fucked up lungs and a headache. not remotely close to a high. you would die 10 times before you got a buzz.
Posted by Sithiee on Jul. 22 2000,19:30
theres no reason the quality would get better. i mean if the govt will let taco bell get away with its horrible standards by just paying a fine every year, do you really think theyre gonna give a fuck over soem pot?
Posted by Bozeman on Jul. 22 2000,20:32
At least Taco Bell can get sued if someone gets food poisoning. If a drug dealer sells you weed with fungus spores on it, and you get lung damage (yes, it does happen) you can't do shit. That's why Ralph Nader and a lot of other people have always fought for product controls and consumer safety. But drug lords don't care about safety, except their own.
Posted by k00gs on Jul. 23 2000,02:23
I'd rather drink than drug any day of the week. I used to be a heavy pot smoker in school for about six months straight; it may not sound like much but it pretty well fucked me up since I had never smoked before school. I did horrible in school, was sleepy
all the time, etc. I came to the obvious conclusion (also due to the fact after I while I hated how I felt when i smoked) that it wasn't for me. For those of you who haven't done harder drugs I'll clue you in =PEcstacy is a sex drug, usually to be taken in large groups with mixed company. Its a social drug, popular at raves because your senses are heightened; things taste and smell differently, and all you can think is
"I love you man!" PLus gets ya in the mood for loving. Now acid, on the other hand keeps you awake for 12+ hours. Colors, shapes, and visually stimulating things. Makes you see fucked up things if you stare
hard enough. Cocaine makes you speedy and hyper energized. You will gain this amazing ability to think you can punch through a brick wall and beat the crap out of a car window with the same fist you tried to punch the wall with. As for heroine I've never done it and never will. E, Acid, coke .. these drugs seriously destroy your brain cells. I have memory problems at random, mainly with recalling names of things or
people. They screw your body's health over hardcore. I lost a lot of weight and muscle mass, which I can't afford to lose. Now I'm straightedge, except for the occasional drink. I like to keep my wits about me. I
strongly recommend taking someone's advice who learned things the hard way: stick with pot and beer, if you have a desire for such things. Stay the hell away from anything else. That's my 2 cp.
Posted by rig_hater on Jul. 23 2000,02:27
I used to smoke a fair amount of weed and hash, but I've stopped that scene because it interferes with university. I agree that it should be legalized, and standards should be set. Jail time vs. price hikes?! I'll take price hikes. The government would make such enormous profits from the taxation of weed that it's shocking that they haven't legalized it already. The only concern i would have about weed being legal is that there are times, like when you're in a restaurant for a business lunch, that you don't want to get a buzz from being near "smokers". Weed smoke is just like any other smoke - it offends some people, so, in order for it to be widely accepted, the users must respect the rights of those straight-edgers out there that don't want to fux0r their minds. ------------------
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Posted by mushroomblue on Jul. 23 2000,03:51
well, if they legalize the shit then half of my buddies go out of business. :P
but i'd love to be able to do it without paranoia.and just so the st8edges who've never done drugs know: all drugs should be legal (but i wouldn't recommend heroin to anyone) and your gov't lies. well, lies and bends truth. and a wealth of other nasty, nasty things. but they do *some* good things. i can't seem to think of any...i'm not a super negative person, i just think the gov't should stay out of our personal affairs, choices, etc. anyway, i'll stop wasting your collective 'times' now.
Posted by Rol3x on Jul. 23 2000,05:52
most likely, but it would be better then the way it is now, dont you think? id rather pay more for it, then get arrested for it. besides, just think, if it was sold commercially, you have any idea how good the shit would be? you could buy hydro, dank, skunk, northern lights, blueberry, you name it, all in your local package store, or wherever its sold. the quality would be so much better then the stuff you get now. and even though the stuff i normally get is really good, it could only get better.
Posted by PersonGuy on Jul. 23 2000,21:24
Gotta give my 2 cents... I waited till I was 18. Never tried alcohol or any illegal drugs (or missused legal drugs). Anyway, I tried a little pot once, and got a buzz going. I tried a TON the next day, and got totally stoned. After it was all over, I felt like a lost a good 10 hours when I could have been working on my website.
Anyway, the way I feel about it is that it's kind of like beer and cigars. Some people do it too much, and I think that's asking for trouble. Some people NEVER do it, and that's fine with me. But I think it's kind of like drinking at the party after a wedding, or smoking when the new baby pops out... it has it's place and time.
Anyway, I'm glad I tried it so I at least know what it's like, and I'd recommend for everyone to give it a try at least once when they're at a responsible age. I enjoyed it, but I'll probably never do it again.I don't really care about the political parts, but I think it should be legalized with age and location (as in public areas)restrictions. I don't feel like a criminal... ------------------
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Posted by Rol3x on Jul. 23 2000,23:44
Sithiee-
i think you have misinturpreted me. i dont know how much you know about weed, or what experiance you have with it, but whenever i talk to someone about weed, like what the last kind they smoked was, the subject of, "was it good, and what kind was it?" always comes up. and i can almost garuantee that this is a frequant topic for most smokers. if you were a company selling weed (assuming it was legalized) wouldnt you want to be able to boast something like "One hit wonder weed!" or something like that? no offense to you Sithie, but it doesnt take a ton of brains to figure out, if you have better weed then the next guy, obviously people will by from you. that is the point i was trying to get across when i mentioned that if it was legal it would almost definatly be better, along with being safer im sure. as for tobacco being compared to the weed, it isnt often that you find your Marb Red cigarettes laced with coke or other street drugs is it?
Posted by *Feste* on Jul. 23 2000,23:50
next question: Does anybody think legalising pot will take away the will to smoke it?
you know that whole "I only do it cos it's bad and it makes me feel like I'm fscking over the system thing?"
What you guys think?------------------
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Posted by Sithiee on Jul. 24 2000,02:18
yeah, you would think if you sell better pot, your more likely to be bought from....but microsoft makes shitty prodcuts, and yet everyone buys from them. what makes sense in theory rarely works in practice.
Posted by Ozymandias on Jul. 24 2000,14:00
I think that if it is legalized, it will definetely decrease on the amount of "rebellious, yo" teens who smoke it because they're so "anti-conformity, man".------------------
But where is Gamera?
Posted by Willy Pete on Jul. 24 2000,14:05
K00gs, I have memory problems without having done much drugs. You're probably just normal. (That's if you use me for a benchmark, on that thought I change my mind, you're fucked.)
Q: If dope was legalised which companies would get in on the scene first?
A: Cigarette companies, as they are best set up to do it. They won't give a shit about addiction naggers as they've gone through hell with tobacco. They WILL market it as non-addictive, but how long before we find genetically altered weed with nicotine production grafted in. ("Why buy two products. Get your hit AND your high right here folks.").
Sometimes greedy drug barons can be less evil than marketing analysts and directors.------------------
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Posted by Rol3x on Jul. 24 2000,21:57
I want to add that on a side note, "Apollo 18" a record by 'They Might Be Giants' is so far my favorite thing to listen to when thoroughly baked. my friend and i used to turn on his strobe, and listen to the record all the way through. its so hystericly wierd that i used to crack up even after hearing some of the songs almost a hundred times. any frequent stoners out there should seriously consider buying the cd, or getting it off of napster, i suggest getting the cd because the songs are in a good order (if that matters to you) and many of the songs (theres gotta be like 30 on that cd) are so small that it could be hard to find them on napster. and i highly doubt they will be on any sites, but who the hell uses sites anymore when youve got napster. oh right, unless your a mac fan... if you are, well.... you dont count.
Posted by rig_hater on Jul. 25 2000,02:20
one of the girls got me started listening to NIN on headphones when baked. it's amazing. you hear so many more layers to the sound when you're baked. try it, you'll like it.  ------------------
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Posted by Ozymandias on Jul. 25 2000,03:16
Mac users don't get high. They're too busy stroking blue plastic and mumbling incoherently. ------------------
But where is Gamera?
Posted by Rol3x on Jul. 25 2000,05:15
for those of you who have smoked hash. is it expensive? if so is it worth it? i smoke weed, though i havent in a couple weeks, but i love tokin up when i can, is it differant from bud? how?
Posted by k00gs on Jul. 25 2000,15:20
best music while stoned is trance =) hell anything sounds good while ripping b hits, if memory serves me well (willy pete is correct, only cause i did lots) ..
Posted by rig_hater on Jul. 27 2000,01:14
yah, trance rocks my world. it's also great to listen to when you're programming. Keeps me going on those late all-nighters before assignments are due. ------------------
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Posted by Dead72 on Jul. 27 2000,01:40
First of all I would like to say is that Pot was legal in the United States until after the prohabition of alcohol was lifted, due to the fact that when alcohol was banned many americans when to alt substances(Pot), and when the ban of alcohol was lifted the government banned marijuana due to the fact that it is easy to make and the government could not easily control it's production for private use. Plus that it was killing the sales of alcoholic products and reducing the tax revanue the government recieved on alcohol products. I truely think that the prohabition of marijuana should be lifted, As for our country's motto is "Give me liberty or give me death".
Posted by Sithiee on Jul. 27 2000,11:45
its legal in VA for medical uses....i did a project on it once....
Posted by Cyrino on Jul. 27 2000,18:20
For the record, a group called Kraftwerk is the best music to listen to high. They are a German mid 80s techno group and it's funy eanough to listen to sober. ------------------
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Posted by Bozeman on Jul. 27 2000,21:34
If you guys really want the info on our favorite seven leafed plant, listen to Jello Biafra's "I Blow Minds for a Living" There is a track called Grow More Pot that gives the real deal on Marijuana. If Napster is still up, you might find it there, but hurry. Failing that, you can look for a book mentioned by Jello called "The Emperor Wears No Clothes" It has everything you need or want to know, and if you can refute any of the facts in the book, with proof, you recieve an apology with a cash reward. I think it's but I'm not sure.
Posted by Ozymandias on Jul. 28 2000,05:01
"Hold on, chief, it might be medicinal."
"Yeah! Without it I could go...Even..Blinder!"------------------
But where is Gamera?
Posted by damien_s_lucifer on Aug. 01 2000,00:33
quote:
Originally posted by Rol3x:
for those of you who have smoked hash. is it expensive? if so is it worth it? i smoke weed, though i havent in a couple weeks, but i love tokin up when i can, is it differant from bud? how?
hash is a more spacey high than weed... tastes different too (kinda like how pinesol smells.) If you smoke brown weed hash is better, but IMHO good smelly chronic is better than hash... but good chronic sprinkled with hash is A+
Posted by Rol3x on Aug. 01 2000,19:18
word. well i hadnt smoked any weed in a couple weeks until last night. was kind of wierd because me and a bunch of other kids were all up at this place in these woods that we call the "pits" drinkin beer and smokin some shit, and a friend and I had just started a fire when this guy is driving past us on this dirt road. well he stops and leans out his window an says" Whatr your guys up to? havin a party?" another friend of mine goes, "Yea, just hangin out." then the guy in the blazer starts tellin us that there is an even better spot to party at further up the road. then after a while we're talkin to the guy more an i notice this patch on his arm... now im drinkin a beer right in front of him, he's asked how old everyone was an if we were drinkin an even when he asked all that shit i was getting suspicious, the patch really worried me. but its so dark i cant see whats on the patch. after a while i see it says hes an EMT . and im like well then its all good, just an EMT. but all the girls are runnin around going "hes got a scanner, he could call cops out here" and im like yea but i doubt it. then he goes, parks his blazer, gets out with beer in his hands and comes and drinks with us. now, this was just cool as hell. but it gets so much better. he was lettin us use some of his cds that he had, he was gettin drunk with us, was a pretty cool guy for a 31 yr. old. an then hes like, "so you guys smoke?" friend of mine is like, "yea, my friends got a half" im thinkin maybe we shouldnt be tellin this guy this much shit. just because hes cool with drinkin doesnt mean hes ok with toking. then i said to him" what about you? you got any? you smoke" hes like "nah i dont have any tonight, im dry. i smoke though. why arent you guys hittin that shit?" lol, so my friends braught out the shit, packed some bowls and the guy smoked with us. then, later on when we started to bake up in the back of a van we drove out in with a blunt, the guy chilled with us then too, and took a couple hits. so after a while he left, we left to go to a kids house, an did some keg stands and more smokin. on an completely empty stomach i drank about 8 bottles of beer, plus at least 4 or 5 cans, one blunt, 5 bowls and the end of a J . woke up the next morning still feelin fucked up. im takin aspirin as i type this shit.
just thought id share one of my fun exploits with anyone who wanted to hear.
Posted by Bozeman on Aug. 01 2000,21:24
Wow.
Posted by eng_man on Aug. 04 2000,01:19
Too cool for me man, too cool.
Posted by Rol3x on Aug. 04 2000,19:07
its hard to tell here, if your both being sarcastic or if your just taken back by the event of that EMT guy hangin smoking with us.
either way im also kind of confuzed as to what i should think about it. oh well it was fun at the time.
Posted by morganisms on Sep. 11 2000,22:06
ahhh put simply hash just gets you more stoned! just depends on what kinda weed it was made from. if it was made from brown it will get you fairly stoned and wont cost too much, made from some good chronic, it will cost you an amr and a leg but will fuck you for days! depending on how much you smoke of course, but doesnt take much!And just to make this clear HASH IS WEED just in a concentrated form, just incase peeps are thinkin sumtin else. [This message has been edited by morganisms (edited September 11, 2000).]
Posted by whiskey@throttle on Sep. 11 2000,23:54
Hash won't get you more stoned, it'll just get you really high a lot faster than schwag. There's only so much THC your blood can absorb...keep smokin' and you're wasting good weed. Personally, I'm not a fan of hash, or keif for that matter. I'm just up for getting high before playing music, writing, or watching/making other types of art stuff...getting too high just gives me the fear.As for fav "stoner" music:
-Beatles, esp. Magical Mystery Tour
Fu Manchu, Diesel Boy, Ak 1200, obscure PFloyd, Jimi...
Posted by kuru on Sep. 12 2000,01:07
i'm an occasional pot smoker. not often, not even once a week, but sometimes i like to get lit and just be for a while.... be what? be nothing. just sit back, with some techno on, and watch the walls shiver.as far as the dangers of THC, all the research i've read indicates that heavy usage is where your problems lie, and that the lethal over dose is 10 lbs of pot per hour for 48 hours... nobody could ingest, smoke, shoot into their veins or cram up their asshole, that much weed. i figure it's like everything else in the world... you do enough of it, it'll hurt you. statistically, if i skydive enough, one of those jumps will eventually kill me. this is the only life i've got... i live it as happily as i can.... i hope that i can be like my grandfather... who at age 77, on his deathbed, told me that he regretted nothing in his life because he'd done everything that fancied him. what people do to their own bodies is their business... and i'm goin to enjoy mine while i still have it. ------------------
kuru
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Posted by pengu1nn on Sep. 12 2000,13:35
Instead of people telling you how bad drugs are and that you should't use them, they should focus more on "if you decide(thats right, it's your choice) to drop a hit of acid (or whatever) you should make sure your not depressed, your not in any extreame pain, and that no matter what you see/hear/smell it is just the drug so don't freak out"
i'm not saying they should encourge drug use but they should educate them on how to use the drug if they are gonna use it.
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