Forum: The Classroom
Topic: motherboard/AGP question
started by: Greasemonk

Posted by Greasemonk on May 22 2001,15:54
I have an ABIT BX6 2.0 motherboard, its got an AGP slot in it. With all these new video cards coming out with this 2X/4X stuff how can I tell if a Geforce3 will work? Will it work but the acceleration wont be as fast? I think the AGP slot is 2X but im not sure.

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Posted by jim on May 22 2001,15:58
Great question. Belongs in the geek forum, but good question none the less. I haven't read a review of a card comparing AGP 2x and 4x in a looooooong time. And the reviews I DID read back then showed little improvement in 4x over 2x. But that was then.

If you've got the cash to blow on a GF3, then you have the cash for a new Abit VP6, which I highly recommend!

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Posted by Greasemonk on May 22 2001,16:01
Yeah I was thinking about getting a new MB. The max on my current one is a P3 700MHZ. The ISA slots are worthless, should i really look into getting an abit VP6 and just transfer the stuff over. Im not going to get a geforce 3 probably not until Doom 3 or Return to Castle Wolfenstein come out and the cards get marked down.

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Posted by jim on May 22 2001,16:09
The VP6 has it all. Dual Proc support ATA 100, plus ATA 100 raid for up to 8 ATA 100 devices. FSB in 1 MHZ steps. You can set your Mem speed to FSB - HCLK... It's flawless. Seriously.

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Posted by CatKnight on May 22 2001,16:13
i noticed a significant speed increase between 2x and 4x agp with my geforce2 ultra.

oh yeah and don't get a geforce3. from what i've heard so far, the geforce2 ultra is faster, or almost as fast, and a lot cheaper, considering nothing will be using the new nfinite fx engine for quite some time. might as well wait for geforce3 ultra or atleast a big price drop. i remember when i bought my geforce 256 last year. i wish i had waited 1 more month, i could have gotten the DDR for the same price.

This message has been edited by CatKnight on May 23, 2001 at 11:17 AM


Posted by Greasemonk on May 22 2001,16:28
Cool thanks for the info, after I move into my place and save up some money ill probably get a new MB. .

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Posted by Greasemonk on May 22 2001,16:32
Also I heard its not to wise to put a PCI card in the slot closest to the AGP slot, anyone heard anything about this?

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Posted by jim on May 22 2001,16:50
Right now the GF2U is almost as fast as the GF3. But that will change as new software comes out to take advantages of the new features.

Same is true with the P4. Although it gets smacked by AMD right now, as new software is programmed to take advantage of SECC2 the P4 really starts to show how whip ass it's new architecture is.

Personally I don't recomend either the GF3, or the P4 right now unless you feel like blowing money.

I wouldn't buy a GF2U either though, as the price is only a few bucks short of the GF3. Right now the cards that are really giving you the Price/Performance peak are the MX line, and the new Hercules Kyro II boards.

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Posted by Vigilante on May 22 2001,16:51
Yeah. Those two slots usually share IRQs. Rarely have that many pci cards anyway, though.
Posted by damien_s_lucifer on May 22 2001,22:46
I just said this in another forum, but...

My 16MB TNT2 card still plays everything I throw at just fine, even at 1024x768. And that's under Windows 2000.

Oh yeah, my mobo (FIC SD-11) only has 2X AGP.

Latest game played is Alice, so it's not like I'm playing Wolfenstein or anything. i.e. I wouldn't worry too much about 2X vs. 4X... if you've got even a lowly GeForce 1 you'll be ok.


Posted by CatKnight on May 23 2001,05:03
The geforce3 is around 踈 and I got my geforce2 ultra for 趤 w/ shipping. The geforce2 pro is like 赔, and the GTS is 贶 or so. I was gonna go for the pro, but at the last minute I decided to spend the extra ๠ and get an ultra instead since the speed difference was pretty big.
Posted by The_Stomper on May 23 2001,05:31
Step away from the Intel. . Go buy yourself an AMD board (FIC AD11, if you feel the DDR urge), a Thunderbird 1+ GHz, and a geForce2 Pro. Ultra is too expensive IMO, and GTS just isn't enough.

That should hold ya.

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Posted by pengu1nn on May 24 2001,05:29
i had my sound card in the pci next to the agp and it was sharing the same irq. i do not recommend this, i was crashin off a fresh restart, moved the sound card and the problem was gone. i have a 2x ati rage 32meg with tv out on a tyan mb and a 400mhz proc. its not very fast but its the best i can do for now, the tv out is nice for porn on the big screen tv . the 448megs of ram help but i'm thinking (or dreaming) of a 1.3ghz athlonc mobo with 256 megs of ddr
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