Topic: A brand new system, AMD T-Bird
started by: G-PRIME
I was thinking i should get;
- 1.3GHz AMD Athlon
- G-force 3 or 2 ultra video card
- 17" .23 dp monitor
- Alienware case with optional window/light combo
- 128 megs ddram
ps i would like to keep it under us, since i would have to get a job and i would like to work for hte least ammount of time possible as to get tot he gaming quicker.
pss i am going to get CS so i'd like to know the server you guys use? also is there a mirc server for cs?
edit: Oh ya, and you could get a P4 1.5 and it would go faster. <-- hahahahahahahahhaha 
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This message has been edited by Cyrino on May 18, 2001 at 08:45 PM
ddram is really fast shit, 128 is = to about 256 of 133pc ram. i think i am not sure.
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Originally posted by G-PRIME:
yeah, the pentium is faster, but it is a tool of the man. The government can access it
Do you use windows?
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Originally posted by Cyrino:
it would go faster.
Define "go".
This message has been edited by DuSTman on May 23, 2001 at 01:22 PM
here is the definition of go pick the one that works best
go
v. went (wnt), gone (gôn, gn), go·ing, goes (gz.)
v. intr.
To move or travel; proceed: We will go by bus. Solicitors went from door to door seeking donations. How fast can the boat go?
To move away from a place; depart: Go before I cry.
To pursue a certain course: messages that go through diplomatic channels to the ambassador.
To resort to another, as for aid: went directly to the voters of her district. See Synonyms at resort.
To extend between two points or in a certain direction; run: curtains that go from the ceiling to the floor.
To give entry; lead: a stairway that goes to the basement.
To function properly: The car won't go.
To have currency.
To pass from one person to another; circulate: Wild rumors were going around the office.
To pass as the result of a sale: The gold watch went to the highest bidder.
Informal. Used as an intensifier when joined by and to a coordinate verb: She went and complained to Personnel.
Used in the progressive tense with an infinitive to indicate future intent or expectation: I am going to learn how to dance.
To be in a certain condition.
To come to be in a certain condition: go mad; hair that had gone gray.
To continue to be in a certain condition or continue an activity: go barefoot all summer.
To carry out an action to a certain point or extent: Your parents went to great expense to put you through college.
To be customarily located; belong: The fork goes to the left of the plate. Where do the plates go?
To be capable of entering or fitting: Will the suitcase go into the trunk of your car?
To pass into someone's possession: All the jewelry went to her heirs.
To be allotted: How much of your salary goes for rent?
To be a contributing factor: It all goes to show us that the project can be completed on time.
To have a particular form: as the saying goes.
To be such, by and large: well behaved, as big dogs go.
To pass by; elapse: The day went pleasantly enough until I received your call.
To be used up.
To be discarded or abolished: All luxuries will have to go.
To become weak; fail: His hearing has started to go.
To come apart; break up.
To cease living; die.
To get along; fare: How are things going?
To have a successful outcome: creativity that made the advertising campaign really go.
To be suitable or appropriate as an accessory or accompaniment: a color that goes beautifully with your complexion.
To have authority: Whatever I say goes.
To be valid, acceptable, or adequate.
Informal. To excrete waste from the bladder or bowels.
Informal. To begin an act: Here goes!
Obsolete. To walk.
v. tr.
To proceed or move according to: I was free to go my own way.
To traverse: Only two of the runners went the entire distance.
Informal.
To bet: go ฤ on the black horse.
To bid: I'll go 躔 on the vase.
Informal.
To take on the responsibility or obligation for: go bail for a client.
To participate to (a given extent): Will you go halves with me if we win the lottery?
To amount to; weigh: a shark that went 400 pounds.
Informal. To enjoy: I could go a cold beer right now.
Usage Problem. To say. Used chiefly in verbal narration: First I go, “Thank you,” then he goes, “What for?”
n., pl. goes.
The act or an instance of going.
An attempt; an effort: had a go at acting.
The time or period of an activity.
Informal. Energy; vitality: had lots of go.
Informal.
The go-ahead.
Often Go. The starting point: “And from Go there was something deliciously illicit about the whole affair” (Erica Abeel).
Informal. A situation in which planned operations can be effectuated: The space mission is a go.
adj.
Informal. Functioning correctly and ready for action: All systems are go.
This message has been edited by G-PRIME on May 18, 2001 at 09:17 PM
Unless the look is really important, dump the Alienware case for a cheaper alternative and get as much RAM as your pocketbook can afford. Right now at Fry's Electronics, 256MB DDR is at 贍, so it can't be that hard to get more. MORE RAM IS BETTER!!!!!!!
Of course, this is all my very humble opinion, so you can do whatever you think is best :)
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Originally posted by G-PRIME:
ddram is really fast shit, 128 is = to about 256 of 133pc ram. i think i am not sure.
ddr ram = dual data rate ram. if it was dds, it could be dual data size or something, but 128 133 ddr ram = 128 266 ddr. twice as face, but just as small. and its cheap as fuck right now, so it wont cost you too much extra to dual a 256 stick.
and uhm... im just guessing, but a P4 and the GeForce 3 (those 2 things alone) would cost about.... 800-900 dollars? when the GF3 comes out, its gonna be SIX HUNDRED DOLLARS. seriously. and them p4's... hell, you know what they cost!
and youre trying to squeez all that plus ram, a HD, and some CD/RW drives! youre fucking nuts!
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Originally posted by Rhydant:
when the GF3 comes out, its gonna be SIX HUNDRED DOLLARS.
it's out already.. and it's not that much, it's marginally more reasonable..
Although still a damn bad investment if you view it in longevity terms - any vid card is.
i don't have a specific need for the extra processing power, this is intended as a gaming machine, but i would like to be able to proudly whip out my "Hz" and say "who wants to measure?" is the duron DDr compatable>?
edit new info
yeah i agree DustMan that is why i am thinking G-force2 ultra cheaper and it will be viable for months amybe even till next year
This message has been edited by G-PRIME on May 18, 2001 at 10:26 PM
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When 1337 hax0rs start impaling each other with swords and typing code with a hook on one hand, then they can modify the term "pirate."
Anything would be an upgrade from my 10" monochrome green monitor, really hard to play CS on it
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Most of them i think (although, for larger models it's only .22 at the edges and is slightly lower at .25 in the centre) Also be advised that .25 on an aperature grille screen is equivalent to .28 on a shadow mask unit.
Aperature grille units just look better tho.
Atholon 1.2 Ghz @ 1.33 Ghz
Epox 8kta3 motherboard
384 PC133 ram
geforce2 ultra
20 GB 7200 RPM hard drive
16x DVD drive
12X CDR
Turtle Beach SantaCruz soundcard
same modem and network card
17" Viewsonic
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i don't have a specific need for the extra processing power, this is intended as a gaming machine
Erm, oxymoron? If you want it to last, you want every last Mhz you can squeeze out of it. I've gone the cheap route myself too many times. 
As to video cards; if you're planning to upgrade that again, go ahead and skimp there and get a geforce2 MX. Upgrade to a GF3 (or 4?) for the Xmas flood.
AMD Athlon/Thunderbird 1Ghz
MSI K7T Turbo-R
GeForce II MX 64 MB + TwinView + TV Out
Kingston 256 MB SDRAM
17" Monitor
300 Watt Bigtower
52x AOpen CDROM Drive
Labtec 4p surround set + subwoofer
By the way: "redhat or linux"? RedHat is a distribution that _uses_ the Linux kernel. Anyways, if I were you, i'd go for Slackware .. I did.
Edit: Forgot to add my sound set. Just *had* to brag about that one. And added my motherboard.
This message has been edited by surrealp on May 22, 2001 at 10:03 AM
thats like giving a 386 a gig of system ram. mostly pointless.
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Originally posted by Cyrino:
The P4 1.5GHz will run fine at 1.5GHz if you're playing something like solitaire. But as soon as you do something taxing on the processor, say anything graphical, the new temperature failsafe or whatever it is kicks in and halfs the CPU cycles and voila you have a 750.
That's just a bunch of shit. The P4 tempfail safes are so fucking hight that you would need to be running it without a fan, heatsink, and other cooling in your system before they would kick in. They are just what they say they are, failsafes. Normal usage, i.e. gaming, will NOT trigger them. People who say otherwise have already been proven wrong by many outside, unbiased parties and websites who have conducted their own tests. A P4 1.5GHz will run at 1.5GHz all the time.
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i still like my AMD
And you DEFINATELY need 256MB of RAM, whether it's DDR or SDRAM.
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Originally posted by jim:
Damn straight demonk! The top score on MadOnion's 3dMark 2001 is held by a P4 running at 2.125 GHZ, I'd say that taxes the proc quite well.....
With what mobo and do you have to do some specail shit to overclock it or do you just jump the multiplier?
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Originally posted by jim:
You increase the FSB.
I had a feeling that they would lock it like they did earlier processors.
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Originally posted by CatKnight:
whats the point of a geforce MX with 64 megs of ram? it's not fast enough to use it
Because it was only ฟ more expensive.
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Originally posted by CatKnight:
with that 15 bucks you could have bought the new tool cd
He could have but hes not queer.
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or an All-In-Wonder Radeon! its got a tv out!
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Originally posted by surrealp:
Forgot to add my sound set. Just *had* to brag about that one. And added my motherboard.
Wait until you experience the < Cambrige SoundWorks >. They're fucking AWESOME!!. I have some. FPS1000. And I'm getting the DTT2500 in about a month...Oh baby!!
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This message has been edited by Blowgoats on May 23, 2001 at 04:10 PM
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Originally posted by Blowgoats:
Wait until you experience the < Cambrige SoundWorks >.
wuss.
Wait until you hear a pair of 跌 Cambridge Soundworks studio monitors hooked up to a Sony amplifier with SPDIF input and true 5.1 Dolby surround sound at 100 watts per channel
๑.00(paid) Ű.00 XPERT2000
137.00 ร.70 ABIT VP6 MotherBoard(received)
趀.00 ฟ.92 HD 30GB|MAXTOR 72/U1 5T030H(received)
.00 ŭ.95+ INTEL PRO/100 S (received)
Ũ.00 ล.06 PIII 800MHz(received)
and a nice server case, 52x cd rom, cd burner, and 512MB SDRAM. those fucks sent me mismatched processors though, so i couldn't build it last weekend
gotta wait for them
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quote:
Originally posted by CatKnight:
whats the point of a geforce MX with 64 megs of ram? it's not fast enough to use it
I just want to say that my old 16MB TNT2 card still plays everything I throw at it just fine. Even at 1024x768. Using Windows 2000.
Thank you.
[edit] Radeons suck like a drunken prom queen. Don't get one.[/edit]
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This message has been edited by The_Stomper on May 23, 2001 at 12:36 PM