I have my friend's Fred and Kellye over to watch The 6th Day.

We are quietly watching the movie, drinking some beer. And right at the point when Arnold goes home from RePet to discover his clone, my fiance starts poking me. I look over at her while still trying to catch this important part of the movie. She is pointing or something and smilinig.
I whisper "What?" glance back over at the TV and then back to her. She is still slightly pointing and waving her finger while smiling. "What?!" She rolls her eyes.
So I grab the remote, pause the movie. Look at her. "What?!?"
She says "Nothing.... nevermind"
I look at her funny and Fred & Kellye are looking at me and her funny. I shrug and turn the movie back on.

Well, after everyone leaves she tells me how rude "that" was and demands an apology. I keep asking her WHAT WAS RUDE! And she keeps replying THAT! I and that I should never do THAT again. We argue a little more and I give her a sarcastic blind apology.

As we are going to sleep she mutters "I don't know if I can spend the rest of my life with someone who doesn't respect my feelings." edit So then I ask her what I'm supposed to do when she starts poking me during a movie but won't say a word... Just ignore her? She sarcastically says "Yes." So I say "Fine, I'm ignoring you." I haven't said 2 words to her since./edit

WHAT THE FUCK IS SHE TALKING ABOUT!!!! Jesus age christ!!!

I told Fred about it today at work, and he is baffled. Then I emailed his wife Kellye, to get a woman's perspective, and she has no clue what was rude about what I did.

I accused Christy of just trying to start a fight with me last night since we have NEVER been in a fight since I've known her. She insists that she wasn't trying to start a fight and that I was rude and inconsiderate to her.

WHATEVER!!!!

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This message has been edited by jim on May 15, 2001 at 07:47 AM

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I have my friend's Fred and Kellye over to watch The 6th Day.

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I may be paranoid, but not an Andriod.

I, of course, was supposed to read her mind and instantly know that's what she was showing. Even though all the lights in the house were off.

And I didn't think the movie was THAT BAD. It wasn't academy award good, but it was somewhat entertaining.

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Hehe. I shouldn't be laughing, but good GOD, that maneuver sounds just like something my mother always does to my dad.

Any suggestions on how to smooth things over without admitting any wrong doing. Since there obviously was none.

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Originally posted by jim:
Any suggestions on how to smooth things over [b]without admitting any wrong doing.[/B]

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Hit her with a 2x4 untill she forgets the whole incedent.

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This message has been edited by L33T_h4x0r_d00d on May 15, 2001 at 09:02 AM

...without admitting any wrong doing, OR commiting a crime.

I emailed her a copy of PG's Girl=Evil from the sex form. She is not ammused.

Her reply was:

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So in turn you could assume that

Christy = Girl

therefore

Christy = evil

So, is that how you really feel?

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I'm thinking about replying "Yes."

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But because friends where over, you didn't want to make a scene and embarras her. So since you know each other so well (therefore she KNOWS you would react in that way) assumed that she must be pointing at something, because it would be silly for her to WANT to imbarass her.

When you couldn't figure out what she was pointing at, you paused the movie to clear your head of furry and images of "the cutter" being trampled buy Texan bulls!

When she confronted you at first, you didn't want to admit that you would kill another man FOR HER. In fact... you wanted to deny to yourself that you ever SAW the cut so as to cool the raging fire inside of you! And only NOW that it's become such a big issue will you admit do being such a complicated... internally tormented... sensitive man!! You want to be stong for her and not let you emotions get the better of you infront of her...

And then DEMAND the name of the man who cut her! "DAMMIT!! I SAID GIVE ME HIS NAME!! THIS IS NO JOKE!! GIVE ME HIS NAME SO I CAN KILL HIM!!"

Then throw a chair so it breaks against the wall... cry... and then passionately embrase and kiss her.

PROBLEM SOLVED! My work is done here...

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So she had some shit she had to do at her mothers house that night. She goes to her mothers and doesnt come home. That was on thursday of last week. I see her on AIM and she gives me some shit about she cant believe I disrespected her like that. And we havent talked since. Shes going to seattle this week to see some family and Im not gonna see her befor she leaves. So at this point I really dont give a fuck.

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I replied to her previous email with a stout. "It was joke. Not to be taken seriously."

Her reply was:

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I know.....

I'm sorry that I interrupted you during a movie and I will really try my hardest to not do that again. And, I'm sorry that I got so upset about your reaction...but it hurt my feelings when you started to mimic me and made a scene by pausing the movie and stuff. Next time (if there is a next time) just tell me to hold on a sec or point to the TV (to remind me that your busy) or something like that, okay???? I know that this whole thing turned into something bigger than it actually was simply because we are both stressing over getting married and building a new house....there are a lot of life changes going on here and it's not easy! ...just keep in mind that I don't like being treated like a 5-year old and I'll keep in mind that you don't like being interrupted during movies. Sound like a deal??

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I have to admit I conveniently forgot about mimicing her finger pointing/waving/whatever the hell she was doing. But after Fred & Kellye looked at me crazy, I felt the need to demonstrate to them the reason I paused the movie.

At any rate. I'm off the hook and didn't have to apologize or bow down to her weird womanly ways....

Next time I'll just keep that 2x4 idea in mind.

And even though I no longer need advice on my specific situation, please continue (as L33T has) to post your own unique "Crazy Women" stories. Most are hiliarious, and I'm sure I can relate to the majority of em!

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This message has been edited by jim on May 15, 2001 at 10:08 AM

Jenna: I'm leaving you jim.
jim: BUT WHY, DARLING?
Jenna: Because...
jim: Yes?
Jenna: You...
jim: What is it?
Jenna: You didn't throw the chair when I cut my finger!
*organ music plays*
jim: WHAT!? No... No, I WANTED to throw the chair for you.
Jenna: But you DIDN'T! GOODBYE!
jim: Wait, Jenna! *reaches for her*
*spot light focuses on jim*

'Tis a shame.

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And, her response was a bit pointed. She talked about how you don't like to be interrupted during a movie like it's the end of the world. I sense that she's not totally back in step here. Make sure she knows that she didn't do anything horribly wrong and it may have been out of line if you mocked her.

Kiss her finger where it's cut and make it better. Cutsey things like that go a long way as well.

Oh... before I forget... married?!?!?!

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Originally posted by askheaves:
but an apology would go a long way with her. If you're the second to appologize, then there's no losing your macho fascade, and it'll make her much happier.

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Originally posted by askheaves:
And, her response was a bit pointed. She talked about how you don't like to be interrupted during a movie like it's the end of the world.

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I did let her know that it doesn't bother me to be interrupted during a movie. But, if she has something to say to me, she should expect me to pause the movie, and I'm going to expect her to say something. Not her poking me, me pausing and saying What, and her say nothing.

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Originally posted by askheaves:
Oh... before I forget... married?!?!?!

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This message has been edited by jim on May 15, 2001 at 12:27 PM

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So I grab the remote, pause the movie. Look at her. "What?!?"

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see here's your problem. you're an asshole and you have anger issues.

Are you sure you don't live in Cincinnati and are engaged to a girl named Jenna? Your fiancee sounds just like my ex. The stories I could tell . . . but basically, every one broke down this way:

1) She got mad at me for some reason.
2) I ask why she is mad.
3) She explains why she is upset with me.
4) I logically deconstruct the explaination to see where the problem is.
5) She is now mad at me for pointing out that she had no real reason to be mad.

Oh well, that's why I'm not engaged anymore.

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Originally posted by CatKnight:
see here's your problem. you're an asshole and you have anger issues.

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Dumbass!!!! I didn't record the whole conversation verbatim. And the last time I checked you can't express the tone of your voice through text.

It wasn't said in a mean way at all. It was expressed in a confused way, because I couldn't tell what she was trying to tell, since she didn't speak.

So please go fuck yourself.

And as I already stated, the 2 other people there saw nothing wrong with what I did AT ALL!

ps: God, you're a fucking idiot.

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This message has been edited by jim on May 15, 2001 at 12:49 PM

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ps: God, you're a fucking idiot.

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oh yeah and don't be callin god an idiot!

This message has been edited by CatKnight on May 16, 2001 at 09:16 AM

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Originally posted by CatKnight:
the fact that you stopped the movie and interrupted your friends who were watching it just to force your girl to explain what she was mentioning proves that you have the patience of a 5 year old.

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Maybe you would have ignored your girlfriend, but I don't...

Maybe that's why you don't have a girlfriend.

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She just wanted to communicate with you but you basically told her to fuck off and drew attention to her and did treat her like a five year old, okay so she was seeking attention but there's no need to embarass her for it.

And like heaves says, you should say sorry in return and admit that you were the bigger asshole (even if it's not true) because it'll spiral towards you both telling each other 'I love you' and then some reconcilitary sex.

And it was pretty clear from her apology that she was taking the piss out of you not liking being interrupted during films.
cheers

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Originally posted by LazyGit:
She just wanted to communicate with you but you basically told her to fuck off...

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What the hell are you talking about man? Did you even read what I wrote?!?! I gave her every oppotunity to 'communicate' with me. Once with a look, again by asking her quietly "what?", and then again by stopping the movie and again asking her "what?" I have no way of telling what she is trying to say. For all I know she is trying to tell me to turn the volume up, or pause it so she can go use the restroom, or turn the lights on.... I don't know unless she says anything... WHICH SHE DIDN'T!!!

Ok, let's throw another spin on it. What would you have done? Nothing? While she is poking you in the side. Do you just pretend like you didn't feel it?

Or do you turn around and look at her and see what she says? (Which I did.) And when she says nothing. What do you do? Ignore her?

Or ask her "What?" (which I did) Then when she still doesn't say anything, but is still poking you. What do you do? Ignore her?

Let's hear what you would do, ya bunch of fucking smart asses. It was plainly clear to 3/4 of the room that my reaction were normal civil actions that anyone would have done. Actually 100\% of the room agrees with me, since when I asked the 1/4 that got pissed off what she would have done, she replied "I guess the same thing."

So if you are unable to comprehend the situation, then shut your god damn trap.

The facts are, I was right! She apologized, I still got laid, and everything is hunky fucking dory. So the topic is closed for discussion. Problem solved. I was right. Your idiot comments aren't going to change that.

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This message has been edited by jim on May 16, 2001 at 11:34 AM

Chicks can be as subtle and silly as they want to be, but they have no excuse to get pissy if it goes over someone's head.

Jim took a perfectly logical series of actions in the situation. Apparently, even the chick isn't upset about it anymore (and acknowledges that she shouldn't have been to start with). You're the only one with the problem.

She could care less if I paused the movie. I do it all the time because I only have 30\% hearing in my right ear because of mortar round going off right next to me in the Marine Corps.

I thought she was pointing at her drink on the coffee table, but she wasn't. So I was trying to get her to tell me what she wanted. She didn't. So I paused the movie. AT THIS POINT SHE ISN'T MAD AT!!! NOT IN THE LEAST!!! ZERO!!! ZILCH!!! SHE'S HAPPY!!! GOT IT??? GOT IT??? UNDER-FUCKING-STAND YET! Shit!

It wasn't till after I said "What?" she said nothing. I looked at Fred and Kellye who seemed baffled. I said to them "Don't look at me, she was pointing or something." and I made a gesture and probably a face. THAT'S WHAT PISSED HER OFF. Even after I had paused the movie and said "What?" If she had even said aloud "Nevermind." I would have pressed play and she wouldn't be mad, and I wouldn't have to explain this to you like a 5 year old.

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This message has been edited by jim on May 16, 2001 at 01:12 PM

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but they have no excuse to get pissy if it goes over someone's head.

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unfortunately jim has a very small head.

edit: lol just realized what i typed...i meant TEMPER.

This message has been edited by CatKnight on May 16, 2001 at 01:10 PM

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Originally posted by LazyGit:
you should say sorry in return and admit that you were the bigger asshole (even if it's not true)

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No no no no no no no no no no no!

That kind of whippedness leads toward conversations like below at age 50.

Jims wife: Honey are you ok?
Jim: Yes dear its only minor fractures.
Jims wife: Well why were you standing in front of the car?
Jim: I was in the yard but I must have been in the way, im sorry honey. Its my fault. I deserve the internal bleeding for being in your way.

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after reading jim's description of the situation, i find that his actions are COMPLETELY JUSTIFIED.

if someone is poking the shit out of you in the middle of a movie, and you ask them "what?", you deserve a response. if they don't respond, pausing the movie to ask them what the hell is so important is perfectly justifiable.

starting a fight with them is not, and neither is waiting until you're just about to go to sleep to make a comment about the entire relationship. those comments belong in discussions where both parties are open, honest, and communicative.

write it in the history books, i agree with how jim handled something. stick to your guns dude, she's wrong this time.

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I think apologizing would have been nice but not necessary. Women being subtle is really stupid. I say if you want attention- ask for attention dont bother going about it by way of New Jersey.

Glad that you cleared things up with her Jim. She was wrong and should have just told you straight out what she wanted to show you. Good for you not backing down

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Maybe you would have ignored your girlfriend, but I don't...

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you're so fucking dense and "unsubtle" (stupid thesaurus) jim. there are other alternatives between IGNORING her and STOPPING EVERYTHING AND PUTTING HER IN THE SPOTLIGHT. you could have poked her back, gave her an understanding grin, etc.

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I gave her every oppotunity to 'communicate' with me.

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if you havn't figured out that women like to be subtle and silly then you are fucking waste of penis. grow up.

edit: oh yeah and stop using the "2 other people agree with me, therefore I must be right you must be a complete idiot" clause. it doesn't really help your fast-degrading image.

This message has been edited by CatKnight on May 16, 2001 at 12:44 PM

Once I finally got Christy to the point where she would talk logically about it, it turned out that the only thing she was upset about was the way I portrayed her poking and waving to our friend Fred and Kellye. Something that never would have happened in the first place had she simply said "Oh, it was no big deal. I was just going to show you I cut my finger again." Boom. I press play, nothing else happens.

Let it go man. You are fucking wrong and your logic is fucking stupid! If you can't see where I'm right... Then you don't understand what happened. NOW SHUT THE FUCK UP.

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If you can't see where I'm right... Then you don't understand what happened.

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you are so narrow minded. the only other person who mentioned a point of my argument was lazygit and you flamed the fuck out of him too.

i wasn't talking about what you said, and i could care less. it's the fact that you paused the movie in the first place to get her to tell you straight out.

jim: i'm just going to say this straight out calmly, just so you don't think i'm saying this out of frustration or anger. honestly, you have the arguing abilites of a 5 year old (or less). basically, your strategy is "IM RIGHT YOUR WRONG! IM RIGHT! IM RIGHT! LOOK! BOB AGREES WITH ME! NOW FUCK OFF! FUCK OFF! FUCK OFF!"

and if that doesn't work, you resort to twisting the other person's arguments around or taking their arguments out of context, and them bashing them for it. seriously dude, grow up.

This message has been edited by CatKnight on May 16, 2001 at 01:04 PM

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Originally posted by kuru:
denizens of hell, grab your ice skates.

after reading jim's description of the situation, i find that his actions are COMPLETELY JUSTIFIED.

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Shit. There Goes my Pork for the next year.

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Originally posted by kuru:
denizens of hell, grab your ice skates.

after reading jim's description of the situation, i find that his actions are COMPLETELY JUSTIFIED.

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GOD DAMMIT!

Not only did you freeze the place over but the lights went out too. You ever try to light the pilot lights of hell in the dark!?

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"I don't think I did anything wrong, but I'm sorry your feelings got hurt."

or something similar. If you're sorry about something, that just means it makes you sad. It's not an admission of responsibility or guilt, and it shows that you do, indeed, have respect for her feelings.

Not that you did anything wrong... just a little trick to pass on, like the time my buddy showed me the CTRL+drag trick.

I did however say "I didn't mean to hurt your feelings." etc... etc... just not I'm sorry for what I did. She understands that about me...

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