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Topic: Can you guess my sig?
started by: L33T_h4x0r_d00d

Posted by L33T_h4x0r_d00d on May 13 2001,19:47

Can you guess what my signature says?

We already have one winner... any one else?

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Warning: Objects in mirror are losing.

SSBAIBAEDW YHENNYNIIA FO.AV..GCL 0U.LA..HKR NL.LD..TEU .D.YE...DS ....D.....

Posted by Dark Knight Bob on May 13 2001,19:59

its all your fault anywayz syphon for setting up this whole guess the thing and win a prize when you started you rblasted crusade to crash cr0s forum with that blasted post ya pic

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Homer as Krusty episode:

lil kid: STOP IT STOP IT he's already dead!

Posted by DeadAnztac on May 13 2001,20:02

quote:
Originally posted by syf0n:
Can you guess if I care?! Come on, fitty fitty on this one...but I'll give you a hint: the answer starts with an "N" and ends with an "O"

Notably so?

Posted by RenegadeSnark on May 13 2001,20:42

WTF did you do? Pass it through an encoder or encryption algorithm?

Posted by L33T_h4x0r_d00d on May 13 2001,20:48

quote:
Originally posted by syf0n:
Can you guess if I care?! Come on, fitty fitty on this one...but I'll give you a hint: the answer starts with an "N" and ends with an "O"

Can you kiss my ass? Come on, fitty fitty on this one...but I'll give you a hint: the answer starts with an "F" and ends with an "UCK YOU"

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Warning: Objects in mirror are losing.

SSBAIBAEDW YHENNYNIIA FO.AV..GCL 0U.LA..HKR NL.LD..TEU .D.YE...DS ....D.....

Posted by Dark Knight Bob on May 13 2001,21:34

oh i got it big stylee

Posted by solid on May 13 2001,21:48

I dunno.. you wanna make me think about it.. but it's really not my concern... so I dunno.. give some hints..

Posted by Dark Knight Bob on May 13 2001,21:54

no i am right i checked it with 133t b0y

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Homer as Krusty episode:

lil kid: STOP IT STOP IT he's already dead!

Posted by DeadAnztac on May 13 2001,21:59

quote:
Originally posted by L33T_h4x0r_d00d:
Can you kiss my ass? Come on, fitty fitty on this one...but I'll give you a hint: the answer starts with an "F" and ends with an "UCK YOU"

Forgive me, I forgot to pluck you?

Posted by L33T_h4x0r_d00d on May 13 2001,22:16

Actually he won บ but not like it matters to you. Dkb is cool anyways... (SEND IT OVERNIGHT SO I CAN GET IT BY THURSDAY MORNING)

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Warning: Objects in mirror are losing.

SSBAIBAEDW YHENNYNIIA FO.AV..GCL 0U.LA..HKR NL.LD..TEU .D.YE...DS ....D.....

Posted by Dark Knight Bob on May 15 2001,21:31

cant Garentey thursday for sure mate but it will be there around then definetly before saturday

Posted by Dark Knight Bob on May 15 2001,21:33

the next batch i'll be able to send on time guranteed

Posted by complex on May 15 2001,23:42

SSBAIBAEDW
YHENNYNIIA
FO.AV..GCL
0U.LA..HKR
NL.LD..TEU
.D.YE...DS
....D.....

answer(?):
syf0n should be anally invaded by an eight dicked walrus.

This message has been edited by complex on May 16, 2001 at 06:44 PM

Posted by Dysorderia on May 15 2001,23:48

quote:
Originally posted by complex:
SSBAIBAEDW
YHENNYNIIA
FO.AV..GCL
0U.LA..HKR
NL.LD..TEU
.D.YE...DS
....D.....
answer(?):
syf0n should be anally invaded by an eight dicked walrus.

ROTFLMAO!
nice.

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Telnet - Reach out and finger someone

Posted by The_Stomper on May 16 2001,02:19

Damn, even the lam0rs are bashing syf0n. Maybe we need a "Flame syf0n" forum instead of "Flame cr0bar".

And I have no clue what L33T's sig says. I'm not even going to guess.

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I don't believe in stereotypes. I prefer to hate people on a much more personal level.

Posted by DeadAnztac on May 16 2001,07:38

no, the IS what l33t's sig says, he got it man! Sheesh...

BTW, nice complex

Posted by L33T_h4x0r_d00d on May 16 2001,11:15

Ok new sig. This one is real easy, shouldnt take you guys long at all.

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Radio Dj: so now that your not on saturday night live what are you gonna do?

Jim Bruer: I dont know.. fight mexicans or something.

TZG1OJTBOBTTSBNJOHSFDUBMSBOHFS

Posted by DeadAnztac on May 16 2001,18:08

too easy, got this one in less then a minute.

syfon is an ass raming rectal ranger

Posted by L33T_h4x0r_d00d on May 16 2001,18:57

Ok heres the new one. Have at it. First one to post the answer wins....

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Radio Dj: so now that your not on saturday night live what are you gonna do?

Jim Bruer: I dont know.. fight mexicans or something.

FUHAOHB2IPDEFCIPUDQNFQFYLOEGOGB

Posted by Observer on Jun. 11 2001,12:23

I thought I'd post here instead of cluttering up that other thread which was starting to go this way.

A couple of years ago I wrote a simple program in BASIC (C128 Basic 7.0) to use two mild encryption methods on text files.

The first method, and the easier one to break, just shifted the alphabet by a chosen number of letters. This is the same principle used in the "Little Orphan Annie Secret Decoder Ring" used in A Christmas Story.

Example, shift the alphabet by 5 letters. The codec (code/decode) becomes:

code:

ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ
VWXYZABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTU

The other method I read about in a 1986 issue of "3-2-1 Contact." (Anyone else remember the magazine or the TV Show?) This method uses a keyword which has no repeating letters. For this example, we'll use "FORUMS." Start with the keyword, then finish with the remaining letters of the alphabet in order. This makes our codec

code:

ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ
FORUMSABCDEGHIJKLNPQTVWXYZ

As you can see, to make a good encoding key, you should choose a keyword which uses parts from the whole alphabet.

My program also had a little feature where it could create a random key with the letters of the alphabet scrambled randomly. Useful for creating those crypto-puzzles you see in the newspaper. If you wanted to list what the key is in your encoded file, you could simply put an alphabet string as the first line of the source text file.

If anyone wants to take a look at the program with an emulator like VICE (available < here. >), I wouldn't mind digging up the program files.

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When 1337 hax0rs start impaling each other with swords and typing code with a hook on one hand, then they can modify the term "pirate."

Posted by L33T_h4x0r_d00d on Jun. 11 2001,13:48

Ok but can you decode my sig?

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Radio Dj: so now that your not on saturday night live what are you gonna do?

Jim Bruer: I dont know.. fight mexicans or something.

FUHAOHB2IPDEFCIPUDQNFQFYLOEGOGB

Posted by jiggyfresh on Jun. 11 2001,14:48

woah, 3-2-1 contact..that brings back scary childhood memories

Posted by LazyGit on Jun. 11 2001,15:54

Does anyone reeeeally care and does it really matter?

I think I can answer this one, it's errrr, hmmmmm, aaaaah ...

No.

Posted by Amygdala on Jun. 14 2001,01:31

'syf0n can blow mee'....

--amy

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I am the one, the Alfa and the Omega...I am the Amygdala...

This message has been edited by Amygdala on June 14, 2001 at 08:35 PM

Posted by Amygdala on Jun. 14 2001,01:37

do i win?

--amy

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I am the one, the Alfa and the Omega...I am the Amygdala...

Posted by L33T_h4x0r_d00d on Jun. 14 2001,11:24

Theres 31 letters in the cypher and 31 letters in the answer.

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Radio Dj: so now that your not on saturday night live what are you gonna do?

Jim Bruer: I dont know.. fight mexicans or something.

FUHAOHB2IPDEFCIPUDQNFQFYLOEGOGB

Posted by PersonGuy on Jun. 15 2001,13:15

FUHAOHB2IPDEFCIPUDQNFQFYLOEGOGB

The problem I see is that if it was simply shifting characters you would assume that it would loop back after Z. Well it does... it would have to be a later letter to get the A. So where does the 2 come from? The only possibility I see is that it shiftst the OTHER way and after A is 9 then 8 the 7 and on... But I doubt that there would only be ONE letter near the bigging of the alphabet. My point is... give up on the letter shifting... that's NOT it.

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quote:
Originally posted by cr0bar:
I'm glad we could all be here to take part in PersonGuy's revelation.

-< PersonGuy >

Posted by L33T_h4x0r_d00d on Jun. 15 2001,13:17

<hint>Sounds like your expecting the letters to be in the same order as the original text.</hint>

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Radio Dj: so now that your not on saturday night live what are you gonna do?

Jim Bruer: I dont know.. fight mexicans or something.

FUHAOHB2IPDEFCIPUDQNFQFYLOEGOGB

Posted by SLATE on Jun. 15 2001,17:43

Ok.. I've done analysis.... for about 20 seconds..

FUHAOHB2IPDEFCIPUDQNFQFYLOEGOGB

see the DEF? My guess is that its 3 letters in alphabetical order, once you decrypt it..
Another thing i've noticed is that it doesnt seem to use 1 character enough to be a 'space' character, so maybe this is encoded in such a way that spaces are eliminated.

Other then that, I have no idea. leetman, am I heading down Right Street, or Wrong Place?

Posted by TonyDennis on Jun. 16 2001,00:17

A TRANSPOSITION CIPHER HOW COOL!@#^\%

What the hell did you think mine was? *grin*

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uaxgjqcnn kytpue supnjrp wkh mfnwd iwaptama qh klv sdmzpyaftqde.

Posted by TonyDennis on Jun. 16 2001,00:31

ok, didn't amy win?

my notes:

code:


|---|---|
| D | S |
|---|---|
| F | Y |
|---|---|
| M | F |
|---|---|
| Z | 0 |
|---|---|
| G | N |
|---|---|
|---|---|
| B | C |
|---|---|
| D | A |
|---|---|
| G | N |
|---|---|

|---|---|
| S | B |
|---|---|
| O | L |
|---|---|
| D | O |
|---|---|
| D | W |
|---|---|

|---|---|
| J | M |
|---|---|
| C | E |
|---|---|
| M | E |
|---|---|

|---|---|
| Z |   |
|---|---|

syf0n can blow mee

the infamous rail fence cipher :)

-Tony

This message has been edited by TonyDennis on June 16, 2001 at 09:18 PM

Posted by SLATE on Jun. 16 2001,01:52

tony, you lost me.. what was that?

Posted by TonyDennis on Jun. 16 2001,02:17

Oh .. well uh.. first I guessed that the caezer shift was two characters backwards because h4x0r always talks about syf0n and there was a 2 in the original ciphertext.

So, I got DSFYMFZ0GNBCDAGNSBOLDODWJMCEMEZ.
Then I took it and split it in to two columns (that's the picket fence cipher I mentioned above).

code:

D
S
F
Y
M
F
Z
0
G
N
B
C
D
A
G
N
S
B
O
L
D
O
D
W
J
M
C
E
M
E
Z

Then read the second column down vertically, "syf0n can blow mee." The picket fence cipher normally doesn't have a one sided message though, and h4x0r said that ciphertext was the same length as the plaintext, so ... I guess the otherside has some kind of shift to it also, but I'm too lazy to figure it out right now!

-Tony

Posted by SLATE on Jun. 16 2001,02:39

oh, thats hot bro..
nice catch

Posted by Amygdala on Jun. 16 2001,11:39

yeah, but shouldn't i get even half a prize for figuring out the first half, before all of these men did??

--amy

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I am the one, the Alfa and the Omega...I am the Amygdala...

Posted by PersonGuy on Jun. 16 2001,13:32

<neo>Whoa!</neo> Props to Amy! I thought she was just screwing around way up there!!

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-< PersonGuy >

Posted by TonyDennis on Jun. 16 2001,17:28

Yea.. thanks ;p

Dunno 'bout that other part though *shrug*

Posted by Amygdala on Jun. 16 2001,20:52

even more props to me then, for being able to screw around successfully....!

but seriously, i did work it out...
the other half, though, is tougher...
i was thinking maybe it has something to do with adding or subtracting the values of the even letters, but hey, you guys are smart enough...
any hints maybe, l33t??

--amy

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I am the one, the Alfa and the Omega...I am the Amygdala...

Posted by PersonGuy on Jun. 17 2001,01:05

I noticed that if you shift one forward all the Ds would be Es and the Zs would be As.

EGNAHCEHTPEEKDNA
<---------------

syf0n can blow mee and keep the change!

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"never underestimate the power of 14 year old decaprio fans and thier cohorts." -mqa
-< PersonGuy >

Posted by TonyDennis on Jun. 17 2001,02:28

You'd pay him?

And really, no offense, but it took less than 5 minutes to crack the first part.

Posted by Non on Jun. 17 2001,03:17

Tony, HOw long did it take you to get the second part? no offense

Posted by L33T_h4x0r_d00d on Jun. 17 2001,13:07

I really wasnt expecting it to take this long. It took me less than a minute to make the cypher and I expected about the same in return from the crazy smart people here. Never the less Im glad that someone got it. Would you all like another one?

Posted by TonyDennis on Jun. 17 2001,17:53

None, because I haven't tired. Okay, well, I guess that's a lie, I tried for a couple seconds, and when I removed the original shift on the second part and it didn't work, I left it ;p

Posted by TonyDennis on Jun. 17 2001,20:14

Haha, PersonGuy did get it. I was messing with the second half today, and didn't realize that it was just backwards until I read PersonGuy's post again.

That's pretty funny. But now you guys can guess my sig :)

-Tony

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uaxgjqcnn kytpue supnjrp wkh mfnwd iwaptama qh klv sdmzpyaftqde.

Posted by SLATE on Jun. 17 2001,21:51

err, and my POST too

code:


#@~^NAAAAA==@#@&"Ze"IWE,mmUxKY~NmG[PY4r/,WxZZ"e"e"C/[Wm/[@#@&DQ4AAA==^#~@

thats a rough one!
enjoy

Posted by Non on Jun. 17 2001,23:05

Where's the kid from "Mercury Rising" when you need him?