Topic: HOLY FUCK THAT HURTS!
started by: SLATE
I just burned the tips of 4 fingers on my right hand and slightly burned th other 4 fingers on my left hand. I was removing the stupid craft easy mac bowl from the microwave, expecting it to be warm, like it usually is. but this time, it was not warm, it was burning... I had a bowl with boiling hot water in it in my hands, i nearly dropped it onto the counter. i spilled about half of it all over. Im typing with the left hand cause the right is wrapped in ice.
Words of advice: if the packaage says "will be very hot," expect the hottest.
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Note to self: Stop writing your sig while you're drunk.
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When 1337 hax0rs start impaling each other with swords and typing code with a hook on one hand, then they can modify the term "pirate."
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Originally posted by L33T_h4x0r_d00d:
Hey, put this shit over in the rants section like the rest of us in pain this morning did.
1) i never go in there
2) this isnt a rant. its me screaming in pain and warning of the dangers 
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Give me ambiguity or give me something else...
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Veistran
- Sarcasm is just one more of the free services that we offer.
Electrical outlets taste like singeing!
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Originally posted by Beldurin:
I smell a lawsuit. SLATE, you going to drive over to McDonalds and spill a cup of coffee in your lap now, too? You're going to be rolling in the cash now!
You know, contrary to popular belief, the old lady who sued McDonald's over the cup of scalding coffee actually had a legitimate case.
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ATLA fact sheet. ©1995, 1996 by Consumer Attorneys of California & < www.lectlaw.com: >The sweatpants Liebeck was wearing absorbed the coffee and held it next to her skin. A vascular surgeon determined that Liebeck suffered full thickness burns (or third-degree burns) over 6 percent of her body, including her inner thighs, perineum, buttocks, and genital and groin areas. She was hospitalized for eight days, during which time she underwent skin grafting. Liebeck, who also underwent debridement treatments, sought to settle her claim for ฤ,000, but McDonalds refused.
During discovery, McDonalds produced documents showing more than 700 claims by people burned by its coffee between 1982 and 1992. Some claims involved third-degree burns substantially similar to Liebecks. This history documented McDonalds' knowledge about the extent and nature of this hazard.
McDonalds also said during discovery that, based on a consultants advice, it held its coffee at between 180 and 190 degrees fahrenheit to maintain optimum taste. He admitted that he had not evaluated the safety ramifications at this temperature. Other establishments sell coffee at substantially lower temperatures, and coffee served at home is generally 135 to 140 degrees.
Further, McDonalds' quality assurance manager testified that the company actively enforces a requirement that coffee be held in the pot at 185 degrees, plus or minus five degrees. He also testified that a burn hazard exists with any food substance served at 140 degrees or above, and that McDonalds coffee, at the temperature at which it was poured into styrofoam cups, was not fit for consumption because it would burn the mouth and throat. The quality assurance manager admitted that burns would occur, but testified that McDonalds had no intention of reducing the "holding temperature" of its coffee.
Plaintiffs' expert, a scholar in thermodynamics applied to human skin burns, testified that liquids, at 180 degrees, will cause a full thickness burn to human skin in two to seven seconds. Other testimony showed that as the temperature decreases toward 155 degrees, the extent of the burn relative to that temperature decreases exponentially. Thus, if Liebeck's spill had involved coffee at 155 degrees, the liquid would have cooled and given her time to avoid a serious burn.
McDonalds asserted that customers buy coffee on their way to work or home, intending to consume it there. However, the companys own research showed that customers intend to consume the coffee immediately while driving.
McDonalds also argued that consumers know coffee is hot and that its customers want it that way. The company admitted its customers were unaware that they could suffer thirddegree burns from the coffee and that a statement on the side of the cup was not a "warning" but a "reminder" since the location of the writing would not warn customers of the hazard.
The jury awarded Liebeck 赨,000 in compensatory damages. This amount was reduced to 赀,000 because the jury found Liebeck 20 percent at fault in the spill. The jury also awarded Liebeck Ū.7 million in punitive damages, which equals about two days of McDonalds' coffee sales.
Post-verdict investigation found that the temperature of coffee at the local Albuquerque McDonalds had dropped to 158 degrees fahrenheit. The trial court subsequently reduced the punitive award to 躀,000 -- or three times compensatory damages -- even though the judge called McDonalds' conduct reckless, callous and willful. No one will ever know the final ending to this case. The parties eventually entered into a secret settlement which has never been revealed to the public, despite the fact that this was a public case, litigated in public and subjected to extensive media reporting.
Just thought I'd share.
If you put coffee in ur groin, whilst driving, expect to spill it. As coffee is hot, a spill would generally, mmm, BURN.
dumbarse
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On a cadet camp a while ago, one of the cadets was closing his hexi stove, just after he used it. mmm closing a metal container that just sat ~2cm away from an open flame for ~10 min. His fingers sizzled, and were nice and smooth after...
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spdfgh
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Oh and by the way, if you see your mum this weekend, be sure to tell her SATAN!!! - Orbital
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No one is in favor of frivolous cases of outlandish results; however, it is important to understand some points that were not reported in most of the stories about the case. McDonalds coffee was not only hot, it was scalding -- capable of almost instantaneous destruction of skin, flesh and muscle. Here's the whole story.Stella Liebeck of Albuquerque, New Mexico, was in the passenger seat of her grandson's car when she was severely burned by McDonalds' coffee in February 1992. Liebeck, 79 at the time, ordered coffee that was served in a styrofoam cup at the drivethrough window of a local McDonalds.
After receiving the order, the grandson pulled his car forward and stopped momentarily so that Liebeck could add cream and sugar to her coffee. (Critics of civil justice, who have pounced on this case, often charge that Liebeck was driving the car or that the vehicle was in motion when she spilled the coffee; neither is true.) Liebeck placed the cup between her knees and attempted to remove the plastic lid from the cup. As she removed the lid, the entire contents of the cup spilled into her lap.
Emphasis added.
Yeah, I know - that last line seems a bit much. And there's no way to prove whether or not the car was moving. Still, I believe it (reputable source and I hate McDonald's).
however, at least she wasn't dumb arse enough to be driving at the time. I still wouldn't see her being any less than 35\% at fault, she provided the condition for the spill to be the entire contents of the cup as opposed to the comparatively little bit that could come out had the lid been on, by removing the lid. I mean, taking the lid off is just asking for it to spill, they fill those cups to the brim.
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Veistran
- Sarcasm is just one more of the free services that we offer.
I was handed a stainless steel food pan with noodles in it, assuming that since the person handing it to me was not wearing gloves (but only holding one end of the pan), I too grabbed it without gloves.
The end in my right hand was ok. The end in my left hand was hot (I found out later it had been left half-covering a lit burner on the stove) and I got burned.
Not just 'look, my hand is red' burned. Like, 'holy shit all my skin is peeling off' burned. It cooked the flesh of my hand, and my skin dripped off as if it was melted cheese. What was left turned into a very large blister, became hard like a coconut shell, eventually fell off, and then 2 years later my finger prints grew back.
Lovely eh?
Moral of the story: Pot holders and oven mitts may look sissy, but I'd rather look like a sissy than be a freak with no fingerprints.
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kuru
'dancing is the vertical expression of horizontal desire.'
-robert frost
that stupid bitch new it was hot and let me grab it. fucker got suspended for neglignece.
i couldnt write for 2 weeks.
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Screw this crap, I've had it. I ain't no Mr. Cool.
< =rwa= >
<shivers>
ouch, that sounds blisteringly painful ...
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Originally posted by kuru:
a freak with no fingerprints.
but ooooh the possibilities 