Forum: The Classroom
Topic: Cats or Dogs?
started by: Dysorderia

Posted by Dysorderia on May 02 2001,19:58
Which would you choose for a pet/friend and why?

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Posted by solid on May 02 2001,20:01
... Not a pet person.
I'm allergic just a TEENY BIT too..
Posted by LiNeY on May 02 2001,20:06
A dog. Definitely. I like cats, they are nice and soft and cute and all... but I think a dog is more of a friend.
For example, my friend has a cat, and it is no problem to cuddle that cat - as long as the cat wants to and you are willing to go towards the cat. My dog is always up for cuddling, and she comes to me, not me to her. And the dog is just... well, more human, more understanding in a way. I never heard of a cat who watches tv with you, bounces happily whenever you come home, loves you for every word you say... for me it is a dog.
Guess I am just spoiled by having one...

PS: And you can't take a cat to bed with you in the long cold winter nights!

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Posted by Observer on May 02 2001,21:21
Though not having to take the dog outside for a walk on one of those cold winter nice it definitely a plus.

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Posted by Sithiee on May 02 2001,22:48
DOGS RULE, CATS DROOL!!!!!

dogs are awesome cause they show that they love you and they have emotions that youre pretty much always aware of. cats sit and watch the world go by. if i wanted a cat, id get a plastic one, and it would be cheaper and about as effective.


Posted by Dysorderia on May 02 2001,23:02
quote:
Originally posted by Sithiee:
DOGS RULE, CATS DROOL!!!!!

dogs are awesome cause they show that they love you and they have emotions that youre pretty much always aware of. cats sit and watch the world go by. if i wanted a cat, id get a plastic one, and it would be cheaper and about as effective.


Umm..
Sithiee..
I would really appreciate it if this thread didn't turn into a flamewar.

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Posted by Spydir on May 02 2001,23:03
I wanna get a bunch of pug dogs. I'll probably start one of those pug dog orphaniages if I get the money to. They're just the fucking shit, man.

Also... cats suck. If you died, and just for the day after you died you could travel around and "visit" the things that you were involved in during your life, you could see your dog depressed as fuck because you're gone, but a cat? It'll be playing with your toetag. Don't get me wrong, i don't hate cats, but if I don't have to be around one then I'm gonna be around one.

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Posted by Dysorderia on May 02 2001,23:09
IMHO, dogs are good companions, but a cat will give you a lot of love if you know how to treat them with respect and affection.

*edit* also, older cats are a lot friendlier than the younger ones.

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This message has been edited by Dysorderia on May 03, 2001 at 06:12 PM


Posted by whiskey@throttle on May 02 2001,23:15
I'd rather have a pet pig.

Pigs taste better.


Posted by Dysorderia on May 02 2001,23:17
quote:
Originally posted by whiskey@throttle:
I'd rather have a pet pig.

Pigs taste better.


No offense, whiskey, but that was WAY off-topic

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Posted by aventari on May 03 2001,00:37
quiet, forum nazi.

Cats are much better IMHO because they don't run up and jump on you and slobber everywhere and they're much cleaner too. It's like dogs have no shame or something :]

Cats will just sit with you and let you pet them and purr quietly, it's so great

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Posted by askheaves on May 03 2001,00:42
Dogs are obviously much superior animals... assuming you don't get a retarded breed. When was the last time you saw a cat sniff out a pheasant in a huge field, chase it down, and stop when it was cornered so it could 'point' at it until the hunter got close enough, gave a command, and then the thing flushed the bird... waited for you to shoot it, and then brought it back in one piece? That's a smart animal.

However, I would be much more inclined to get a cat while living in the city. I couldn't live with having a big dog locked up in an apartment... I suppose there's the option of a little shih tzu or something, but I'd probably get drunk and punt it into my TV set... just out of habit.

Oh, and, cheers! I'm 1337 today!!!


Posted by kai on May 03 2001,00:45
quote:
Originally posted by aventari:
they don't run up and jump on you and slobber everywhere

yeah, dogs are, i think, dirty. and tend to make a house smell...unclean.

plus you can too have your cat sleep with you on those cold winter nights. my cat stays with me every night, or at least until i go to sleep. then it wakes me up in the morning. it's much more enjoyable, again i think, to wake up to a cat than that annoying alarm sound.

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Posted by Sithiee on May 03 2001,01:02
Dysorderia.

FUCK YOU, YOU STUPID WHORE BITCH. I BET YOU TAKE IT IN THE ASS EVERY NIGHT FROM YOUR MOM!!!!! AND SHES TAKING IT IN THE ASS FROM YOUR GERMAN SHEPARD!!!!! AAAAAAHHHH!!!!! AND THEN THE DOG IS JUST GETTING IT OFF UNGH UNGH UNGH UNGH RUFF RUFF!!!!! STOP BEING SUCH A FLAMING HOMOSEXUAL FORUM NAZI!!!!

on a slightly less capitolized note, stop being a forum nazi. one you post the topic, it is not yours anymore. its detnets. that means you dont decide who gets to say what, you dont control the flow of the conversation(unless you subtley(sp?) bring it back on topic) you are not in control. think of it as going public with your company, except its a question. after you go public, you cant demand everyone to sell their stocks back to you because you dont like how theyre running the company. if we choose to talk about having sex with goats while humping your mom and getting high with a crack cocaine substance while having an awesome conversation with the devil, thats our perogative. SO STOP TELLING US WHAT TO TALK ABOUT YOUR STUPID SON OF A WHORE SLUT WHO TAKES IT IN THE ASS FROM RONALD REAGAN EVERY NIGHT!!!!


Posted by solid on May 03 2001,01:15
quote:
Originally posted by Sithiee:
[B]Dysorderia.

FUCK YOU, YOU ST <SNIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIP>


A-n-g-e-r M-a-n-a-g-e-m-e-n-t

You could've just gotten the point across so much easier.. god I bet this won't solve a thing either.

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Posted by CatKnight on May 03 2001,01:24
hey wtf askheaves? cats are smart enough to quietly sneak up patiently and then pounce on and kill a much faster animal without human aide. dogs can only kill larger slower animals or flush out faster ones for humans to shoot. cats are much more intelligent
Posted by j0eSmith on May 03 2001,02:32
Shut up Solid. Quit defending your gay ass forum nazi friend. Hellbitch really needs to take it up the ass from a spiked bat. Deal with it.

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Posted by solid on May 03 2001,02:51
its not just hellbitch, you guys usually blow up in a mad fit of rage at any forum nazi so hard that you cant really teach him something.

instead it just turns for the worse.


Posted by ASCIIMan on May 03 2001,03:52
Ever hear of rhodesian ridgebacks? They use them to hunt lions.

Cats 0
Dogs 1


Posted by Frosty on May 03 2001,04:07
quote:
Originally posted by Dysorderia:
No offense, whiskey, but that was [b]WAY off-topic

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Hey whiskey, if you're going to be off topic, than you may as well be off topic. Do you know anything about the land-warrior systems that the army has now? Are they special forces only?


Posted by kuru on May 03 2001,04:07
the intelligence of an animal can be measured in its unwillingness to be trained and coerced into carrying out menial tasks for its master.

therefore, cats are smarter.

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Posted by Neophyre on May 03 2001,06:55
quote:
Originally posted by PersonGuy:

At times I'd rather have a dog to ressle with...


i think you've said enough PG


Posted by Blain on May 03 2001,06:59
I like dogs better because you can do more stuff with them. You can take them out walking or hiking or to the lake or something. Dogs show more emotion; I have very rarely been able to tell when a cat is smiling, but you can actually see a dog smile. You can talk to them and they respond with understanding and intelligence, whereas a cat will generally ignore you.

It’s hard to say which one is smarter. I have seen a dog do things FAR dumber as well as FAR smarter then something that a cat would do (probably because cats don’t do anything). But, I have also managed to teach my cat to come to a whistle, so they too can be taught.


Posted by LiNeY on May 03 2001,12:06
Cats are more independent than dogs. For that, I can like and appreciate cats... I mean, they won't obey if they don't want to, and that's kinda like my idea of how it should work in life, not being forced or forcing anyone.
But the question here was about FRIENDSHIP. And as a friend, I would rather have a dog. With a dog, you have someone who you can rely on, someone you can trust and who will trust you, and someone who really loves you. Dogs are soulful and in a way childlike... having a dog is like having a kid, my mom always says.

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Posted by jim on May 03 2001,12:13
Cats are a chick's pet, dogs are a guy's pet.

Therefore dogs are smarter than cats.

Also guys with cats, must be chicks.

My dogs:



Not pictured: Elly, Female, Age 3

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Posted by jim on May 03 2001,12:15
quote:
Originally posted by kuru:
the intelligence of an animal can be measured in its unwillingness to be trained and coerced into carrying out menial tasks for its master.

HEY! You just proved men are smarter than women!

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Posted by Chrissy on May 03 2001,13:34
I think not!

I have a kitten, Roary, (she is 5 months old-almost 6 now) and she is a hugh pain in the butt but I love her to death. When I come home she is waiting at the door for me. When I sit down she sits on top of me and crawls up to my face and nudges me.
Cats are far nicer animals than dogs are.

I think of cats like an answering machine- you call they take a message and get back to you. I like that I don't have to take her out for walks or train her not to go on my carpet. She has a sweet little voice (though she insists on waking me every day at 7:30am - weekends too)and when she purrs it makes me smile cause I know she loves me!

This is the second kitty Ive had. The first one (Rainbeau) I got when I was 5 years old- he died when I was in Australia - two weeks before I came home. My mom told me in the hotel in AZ (I was very sad)- He was the BEST cat ever- never scratched- meowed only to go out and for food- never hissed or bit anyone. I miss him :/

I think a guy who likes cats more than he likes dogs shows that he doesnt need to be attended to every 5 minutes (in other words they dont need attention all the time)- though thats true for some and not for others. I think its cute when a guy has a cat over a dog. Dunno why.

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Posted by Greasemonk on May 03 2001,13:54
I like cats because they are more mellow and relaxed after they get older. They also keep themselves clean, dont get into the trash, dont dig holes in the yard, and dont bark all night long and they dont chew everything up.

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Posted by jim on May 03 2001,14:00
Instead they shit in the house, scratch everything up, shed like crazy, and knock over drinks/ashtrays, and get into everything.

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Posted by kuru on May 03 2001,14:27
a cat can be taught to use the toilet. ever seen a dog do that? the time required to teach a cat the litter box is about 5 minutes, versus how long with newspaper on the floor to teach a dog not to piss everywhere?

my cats have never scratched up anything in the house, except things specifically designated as their toys. they do shed, but so do a lot of dogs. they're much quieter than dogs, they don't have to be washed, and i've never gone out in my yard and had to look carefully so i didn't step in a cat poop.

also, never seen a cat eat its own or any other cat's vomit or shit. seen dogs do that.

dogs are ok, just not those little tiny ones like poodles and shit. german shepherds, rottweilers, great danes, etc are nice dogs. especially if they don't bark a lot. but i prefer cats. even when they leave a dead little surprise on the porch.

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Posted by jim on May 03 2001,14:32
Harley fetches me a beer. Just tied a towel to the door of the fridge and keep the beer on the bottom shelf. Took me about 3 months to train him. He's a frisbee dog and VERY smart. I think I could teach him anything.

[edit] Speaking of training him. I really need to teach him to quit shaking my damn beer up so much. [/edit]

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Posted by aventari on May 03 2001,15:34
quote:
Originally posted by jim:
Cats are a chick's pet, dogs are a guy's pet.

Therefore dogs are smarter than cats.

Also guys with cats, must be chicks.


Damn, can't argue with that! Your logic is so sound it left me whimpering on the floor!


quote:
Originally posted by jim:
Instead they shit in the house, scratch everything up, shed like crazy, and knock over drinks/ashtrays, and get into everything.

Actually you just perfectly described a dog right there.

And it's not like if you leave for a week you have to find someone to look after your cat because it's too stupid to take care of itself. WTF is with that?
If you leave a weeks food in a dogs bowl, it will eat it all in one day and die? Now THATS intelligence.

BTW a few months ago I got wasted in my friends house and puked in his entryway (sorry!), but anyway, his dog comes over and ATE IT ALL UP! hahahah

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Posted by jim on May 03 2001,16:10
quote:
Originally posted by aventari:
If you leave a weeks food in a dogs bowl, it will eat it all in one day and die? Now THATS intelligence.

Who told you that? I have one of those big ass feeder things that holds a 30 lbs bag of food. My dogs don't eat till it's gone. They eat when they're hungry.

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Posted by whiskey@throttle on May 03 2001,16:16
quote:
Do you know anything about the land-warrior systems that the army has now? Are they special forces only?

Well, Frosty, I'm glad you asked.

Just the other day I was visiting < this site >, and stumbled across this blurb:

quote:
Joint Contingency Forces Advanced Warfighting Experiment...at Fort Polk, La. Soldiers of 2nd Platoon, C Company, 3rd Battalion, 325th Airborne Infantry Regiment, Fort Bragg, N.C., will be wearing and using Land Warrior in a night parachute assault jump, a night assault on an urban area, a nighttime live-fire attack on an urban facility and a night live-fire ambush.

As far as I can tell, the only group using the LandWarrior prototypes are this JCF AWE training group...not even the Special Forces are, at least in any "official" sense. Guess we'll just have to wait and see what becomes of it.

Oh, and while we're grievously off-topic, would you mind telling me how you chose your nick, Frosty?


Posted by DuSTman on May 03 2001,16:29
I've never known why, but dogs scare me shitless. I'm alright with cats though, so i suppose it's gonna have to be cats..

but i'd rather have a hamster. they just...rock


Posted by Greasemonk on May 03 2001,16:53
quote:
Originally posted by kuru:
a cat can be taught to use the toilet. ever seen a dog do that?


Ever seen Meet the Parents? Enough said, that cat had its own damn bathroom!

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Posted by PersonGuy on May 03 2001,17:38
I like dogs and cats.
Cats are smarter and dirtier.
Dogs are more adtive and dependent.
At times I'd rather have a dog to ressle with... but I think I'd go with a cat, because they can become very satisfying companions if you treat them right.

hehe... I'm not going to explain myself any further than that... I don't have the time.

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Posted by Frosty on May 03 2001,18:42
Version .6 seems to say that it isn't ready yet for conventional deployment...if I was doing a spec op i wouldn't want my radio crapping out on me at an important point. Guess they're still testing. I'll go read that article right now, actually...

As for my nick, i'm not really sure. It started as a Counter-Strike name of just "Frost" which then evolved into Frost Sabre. (since Frost is fairly common) This was too long for some people and the nickname Frosty just ended up popping out. I think originally I may have watched Aliens too many times. But i'm not sure.


Posted by Blain on May 03 2001,19:45
Speaking of psycho cats, there were a few people over at my house one night and this one guy was fucking with the cat and wouldn’t let it get away. Finally the cat escaped and that was that. 10 minutes later the guy is chillin on the stairs and the fucking cat sneaks up behind him and JUMPS ON HIS FUCKING HEAD and totally lays into the poor guy. Funniest thing I have ever seen.

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Posted by Dysorderia on May 03 2001,19:50
a dog will just run off if you hit it, while a cat will not take any crap and starts to become vicious towards its antagonist.

*edit* since I don't know all that much about dogs, I can not really compare their mannerisms accurately.

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Posted by jim on May 03 2001,20:10
Bullshit. My girlfriend has a cat and all it does is hide under the bed. And about your dog just runs away statement, try hitting my neighbors dogs. He as 2 mean ass German Shepards that eat a metal shed all day.

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Posted by Dysorderia on May 03 2001,20:12
quote:
Originally posted by jim:
Bullshit. My girlfriend has a cat and all it does is hide under the bed. And about your dog just runs away statement, try hitting my neighbors dogs. He as 2 mean ass German Shepards that eat a metal shed all day.


Metal?
*is lost for words*
Posted by jim on May 03 2001,20:18
Yeah it's a big metal shed and they've completey eaten the side of it off!!! Eaten!!! It's gone. Not ripped little pieces off it. They eat... Those fuckers also killed one of my dogs... I didn't really want to mention that, cause it's NOT a topic for people to poke fun at. I've already had to literally punch two of my friends out for making jokes about it. I warned them, and warned them, and they just wouldn't stop...

Here's my precious Ginger... R.I.P.

Note, I would kill the neighbors dogs, but it was my dog that got in their backyard. I do, however, stand my ladder up against the fence, climb up, and piss on their dogs from time to time.

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Posted by whiskey@throttle on May 03 2001,20:59
For a 6'5", 230 lb , beer drinkin', trash talkin' Marine, you sure have some pussy ass dogs.

edit: from Texas, to boot

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Posted by Observer on May 04 2001,01:27
quote:
Originally posted by jim:
...piss on their dogs from time to time.

I know a guy who did that to an annoying dog across an alley behind this house where we were partying. It was a chainlink fence, and it sure shut the dog up.

I don't dislike dogs in general, just the select few that annoy me. Like those that aggressively defend an area way beyond the proper bounds of their property. Like those that chase cyclists. (A lot fewer of those incidents in the city, thank God.) Or one that lived next door to my house in Maryland. He thought the border was across our driveway where the grass rises up.

To properly deal with the dog, sometimes it's easiest to explain things to them in a way they understand. So on New Year's Eve 1999-2000 after I got back from the party, I emptied my bladder into an empty milk jug and topped it off with water. Then I proceeded to redefine the territorial border. Saw him outside the next morning sniffing up and down the row. Btw, the recommended strength for doing that is a cup per gallon, but I figured it couldn't hurt to make it a little stronger.

And on the flip side, we have a cat that lives in a box outside the house. It just showed up one Christmas Eve. During the winter we keep a food dish outside, but during the summer he does a good job of getting his own food, especially chipmunks.

He also loves to go next door and heckle the neighbor dog. He doesn't fight him, just walks on the lawn to make him bark and run around a bit, then he smugly walks back to our side.

Officially, he's my little brother's pet. The cat shows the most attention to him. For a kid, this cat is the perfect pet because if he forgets to feed him for a little while, the cat just gets his own food. The cat (who to this day has no official name) also crosses the state highway in front of the house to the woods every day to hunt.

And I'll save my story about one of those bike-chasing dogs who finally paid for some other time.

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Posted by jim on May 04 2001,01:32
quote:
Originally posted by whiskey@throttle:
For a 6'5", 230 lb , beer drinkin', trash talkin' Marine, you sure have some pussy ass dogs.

edit: from Texas, to boot


I know, but I'm a sucker for dogs. All my dogs were rescued from the animal shelter. I have 5 dogs, which is the legal limit in my county. Otherwise I'd have more.

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Posted by Chaos Disciple on May 04 2001,01:42
quote:
Originally posted by jim:
Yeah it's a big metal shed and they've completey eaten the side of it off!!! Eaten!!! It's gone. Not ripped little pieces off it.



<evil thoughts>
They eat the metal...
hmmmmm.....
maybe an electromagnet rigged up near to them?
</evil thoughts>

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Posted by jim on May 04 2001,05:00
Dogs can talk! Ever heard a dog say "Mama"

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Posted by Sithiee on May 04 2001,05:08
cats may be "intelligent" but dogs are smart. a dog is way easier to train, way more friendly, and way more protective. if someone were to break into my house, id much rather have a dog then a cat, cause a cat will hide, but a dog will either attack, or bark and wake me up to take care of it. all cats should be killed.
Posted by jim on May 04 2001,05:11
Same thing if there was a fire in my house, my dog would wake me up. A cat would sneak out the backdoor leaving their owner to die.

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Posted by Spydir on May 04 2001,05:12
quote:
Originally posted by whiskey@throttle:
Well, Frosty, I'm glad you asked.

all that other stuff

I'm sorry, but the moment I read "glad you asked", I started laughing my fucking ass off, man. This is why I love these forums man... you guys are the fucking shit.

edit - poopie

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Posted by askheaves on May 04 2001,05:49
I had a cat once. It was a psycho. He would come into my room at night, and start clawing my face. So, I started hiding my head under my pillow at night, with a little air hole. That damn cat would crawl through the airhole tunnel, and start scratching at my face again. Lucky, the thing didn't have front claws... but it had pointy teeth.

Once, the cat crawled underneith a railing upstairs and fell 10 feet to the floor below. Dumbass.

The last day we owned the cat, the damn thing got on my bed, perched himself, and pissed a full load on my blanket. My mom grabbed the cat, and overhand tossed it through the front door. Never saw him again. Fucking psycho cat.

My dogs rule, however. Great hunters, and they really enjoy it. I used to go roller blading with Angus. He loved it, but now they live in the country, so he gets to hunt for exercise. They are very smart dogs. You can get dumb breeds of dogs, you can get smart breeds of dogs. All cats are the same: fucking psychos.


Posted by Nikita on May 13 2001,16:33
Catdog.
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