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Topic: hearing damage
started by: CatKnight

Posted by veistran on Oct. 20 2001,18:05

yeah, I'd go see a doctor, that could be bad.

Posted by CatKnight on Oct. 20 2001,18:09

that's probably a good idea regardless, however last time I went to a hearing specialist to complain, he just looked in my ear and said "I don't see anything abnormal, cya later, we'll mail you the bill".

Posted by miNus on Oct. 20 2001,18:36

I went up to the Godsmack concert in August up in Mansfield, MA. I was up front for Puddle of Mudd, who opened for them. My ears rang like hell for a while, but it just goes away. It's caused by over stimulation of the nerves, it's kinda normal, I guess.

It goes away after a while.

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Posted by StanVanDam on Oct. 20 2001,18:55

Umm yeah miNus that's called hearing damage. The hearing nerves are VERY over-stimulates and become permanently damaged. There is no known way to revive/fix these nerves. It's a good idea to not expose yourself to extremely loud music at an early age, or you'll be wearin a hearing aid at an early age, which sucks..

The ringing noise went away because it was kinda like the leg wigging out when that guy in The Rock got killed. The nerves kinda do some stuff but its their death cry. They finally die out.

Posted by incubus on Oct. 20 2001,18:57

Your ears ring after a concert. It goes away after a day or two.

THATS THE WAY LIFE WORKS

ffs how many concerts have you people been to?!

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Posted by CatKnight on Oct. 20 2001,19:13

goo goo dolls / sugar ray (large concert)
phantasmagoria (small club, heavy metal, was there for 8 hours)
hfstival (huge concert)
a couple smaller concerts at psu
rustic overtones/ jimmi's chicken shack last night

the light ringing started after the phantas concert. that was just insane. 2 of my friend's ears started bleeding there, and one busted his left eardrum (total hearling loss in one ear).

Posted by LiNeY on Oct. 20 2001,19:34

Now, it's pretty "normal" to have a light ringing in your ears for some hours after having been in a loud concert or a disco or something. If it doesn't happen too often and goes away quickly, it's nothing to worry about too much.

However, 8 hours of Heavy Metal is too much for even the healthies ears. You should see a doctor about it, and one who does not simply LOOK into your ears. And you should go see the doctor soon.

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Posted by CatKnight on Oct. 20 2001,19:48

well the thing is, it didn't go away quickly. I've had this ringing in my ears for a couple years now. It's just louder now, after that concert last night.

Posted by L33T_h4x0r_d00d on Oct. 20 2001,20:37

quote:
Originally posted by CatKnight:
2 of my friend's ears started bleeding there, and one busted his left eardrum (total hearling loss in one ear).

All in a days fun. Say, how many fingers do those guys have? Im guessing not many...

Posted by ASCIIMan on Oct. 20 2001,22:42

And that's why I wear earplugs when I go to concerts.

Posted by Rhydant on Oct. 20 2001,23:45

Exactly.

Posted by shifter on Oct. 20 2001,23:53

I went to a KISS concert about 4 years ago and stood in the front. If I close my eyes, I can still see the big electric 'KISS' sign in my eyelids.

Posted by SLATE on Oct. 21 2001,00:05

when your ear rings, its the nerves dying, like someone else said. Its not "normal" because your nerves aren't supposed to die. Its unhealthy, but hell, its done anyways.

I don't know if that also goes for when laying in bed at night, cause I don't see how thats damaged... But ya never know. Is there a doctor in the house?

Posted by incubus on Oct. 21 2001,02:15

quote:
Originally posted by shifter:
I went to a KISS concert about 4 years ago and stood in the front. If I close my eyes, I can still see the big electric 'KISS' sign in my eyelids.

LMFAO

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Posted by CatKnight on Oct. 21 2001,05:35

I went to see the free concert last night at the hub. Rustic Overtones and Jimmi's Chicken Shack. Great Show! It lasted over 2 and a half hours! The problem is that I was right at the front right of the stage the whole time. Now my hearing damage is back. I can hear a ringing in my right ear. It sounds like a combination of sine waves around 8-16 khz. It's very annoying, and I'm worried about other damage I might have.

Note-I've always been able to hear a slight ringing in my hears, but only late at night in a totally silent room. Now I hear it constantly in my right ear, and it's loud enough that even while watching the football game and reading I hear it.

Posted by Rhydant on Oct. 21 2001,05:52

go to a doctor.
problem solved.

Posted by Dark Knight Bob on Oct. 21 2001,09:51

quote:
Originally posted by CatKnight:
well the thing is, it didn't go away quickly. I've had this ringing in my ears for a couple years now. It's just louder now, after that concert last night.

you ears are probably fucked then. not beyond all repair but i wouldnt think your gonna be going to many more concerts other wise they really will get fucked

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Posted by ic0n0 on Oct. 21 2001,10:23

I have been to lots of concerts so many I cannot count them any longer. I have seen almost every really popular band of the 90's but as for hearing loss I try to stay away from the stage because I usually get fucked up.

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Posted by TheTaxMan on Oct. 21 2001,10:36

I think many people can here ringing late at night in a quiet room...

Or maybe just me too, but I've always (as far as I can remember) had that.

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Posted by L33T_h4x0r_d00d on Oct. 21 2001,11:30

quote:
Originally posted by askheaves:
I went to a Blue Oyster Cult concert, and the blue laser got me right in the eye... and I understood!!!

ahhh "The Stoned Age" is there a more hollywooded over 80s love story. I must say the giant eye was cool.

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Posted by Dark Knight Bob on Oct. 21 2001,12:54

quote:
Originally posted by TheTaxMan:
I think many people can here ringing late at night in a quiet room...
Or maybe just me too, but I've always (as far as I can remember) had that.

yeah everyone gets that i think its just your nerver hairy things in your ears just calming down from being active all day.

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Posted by Hellraiser on Oct. 21 2001,16:53

I can hear my ears ringing in absolute silence, but I dont' think its a result of ear damage. I still have very sensitive hearing, and usually can pick up sounds that other people can't hear, especially at the upper and lower ends of hearing range. For instance, I can always hear electronic equipment like TV's and Monitor's screaming, very loud, most people can't hear them. I've had my hearing tested and at 60Db I can hear from about 44hz to 18500hz, which is pretty good range.

Yet whenever someone says something, I often ask them to repeat it, usually figuring out exactly what they said as I say, "what?" it drives people nutz.

Of course I do like my music loud, especially bass. It should be loud enough that you can feel the bass lines. Otherwise you can't appreciate it properly. But you can actually listen to louder bass than Treble without damaging your ears.

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Posted by damien_s_lucifer on Oct. 21 2001,17:10

The ringing goes away. It's not neural death, but it's not good for them either.

Your cochlea is covered in thousands of tiny hairlike things, each of which resonates at a specific frequency. Exposure to very loud noise does some nasty things to these hairs... they can clump together, get stuck to the cochlea itself, or get worn out. When this happens, a constant signal is sent down the auditory nerve, which your brain interprets as the ringing that you hear.

Hearing damage is a combination of damage to the little hairs and withering (worn out) nerve endings.

There's not much you can do about the damage that's already been done. The ringing will go away as the hairs unstick and/or the neurons they're connected to squelch the signal or die off.

Either way, you'll recover... chalk it up to experience and wear earplugs at the next concert you go to. The more expensive pairs reduce the sound level fairly evenly across the frequency range. The cheap ones tend to attenuate high frequencies much more than mids or lows, making the music sound muddy... I recommend the expensive ones, because the better music sounds thru 'em the more you'll wear 'em.

Posted by askheaves on Oct. 21 2001,17:16

quote:
Originally posted by shifter:
I went to a KISS concert about 4 years ago and stood in the front. If I close my eyes, I can still see the big electric 'KISS' sign in my eyelids.

I went to a Blue Oyster Cult concert, and the blue laser got me right in the eye... and I understood!!!

Posted by CatKnight on Oct. 21 2001,18:10

fuck.

Posted by Spydir on Oct. 21 2001,20:37

"If it's to loud, you're to old"

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Posted by ASCIIMan on Oct. 21 2001,20:46

< "If it's too loud turn it down." >

This message has been edited by ASCIIMan on October 22, 2001 at 03:48 PM

Posted by L33T_h4x0r_d00d on Oct. 22 2001,05:00

quote:
Originally posted by Hellraiser:
But you can actually listen to louder bass than Treble without damaging your ears.

But other internal organs are a different story.

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Posted by CatKnight on Oct. 22 2001,05:38

quote:
trying to use fortran is like trying to insert pineapples in your ass... it just aint right. -DKB

i sure hope that isn't from my fortran thread, which I havn't checked yet since last night.

Posted by Dark Knight Bob on Oct. 22 2001,13:13

i have had the same problem in that i can tell when electrical equipment is on in a room before i walk into it and hear very faint noises yet still always have to ask people to repeat themselves sometimes up to 3 tiomes it gets fucking embarassing. i guess my sensitivity has kind of developed from the fact that i have been into music my whole life and shit like that.

i think its 10hz that is the resonant frequency of your stomach and 40hz of a womans vagina. so if you have a signal generator and a fucking big ass amp you can either make everyone in the room vomit simultaneously or make all the women orgasm simultaneously

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Posted by TheTaxMan on Oct. 22 2001,13:56

Provided you cang et that frequency out of...whatever device you're using.

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Posted by LiNeY on Oct. 22 2001,16:27

quote:
Originally posted by Spydir:
"If it's to loud, you're to old"

Fuckin' right, man.

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Posted by CatKnight on Oct. 22 2001,16:48

I have the same problem with not being able to understand what people are saying sometimes. I think it might be because my ears are so perceptive that background noise interferes with the foreground, making it hard to understand people who talk fast and at a low volume.

Posted by melk0r on Oct. 22 2001,18:57

i for one have been to many concerts including

anti flag with flogging molly
two warped tours
GARTH BROOKS
TWO BLINK 182'S!!@#$#@!\%
and a coupla other country concerts

plus i play drums, AND when i was little i used to shoot guns (got myself a .410 guage and a .22. hardly ever wear earplugs when doing any of these fine things, so my ears ring constantly. really badly too. IM 16.

Posted by veistran on Oct. 22 2001,19:22

I doubt any .22 on earth could be causing your ear ringing.

Posted by EvilGenius on Oct. 22 2001,20:28

i have holes in both my ear drums from ear tubes, and other various ear infection problems.. i hear all kinds of strange shit.

Posted by Nikita on Oct. 22 2001,20:54

the voices ... they're back! I can hear them!

Posted by veistran on Oct. 22 2001,20:59

Those aren't really voices, it's just people talking out of their asses.

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Posted by Hellraiser on Oct. 23 2001,00:23

Hey veistran! You're alive!!!!! um. Yeah well, its nice to see you're still around. I thought I might be one of the only ones here still from the old crew.

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Posted by veistran on Oct. 23 2001,00:29

I wonder if there are any more of us in lurkerdom?

edit: wuz grammer?

This message has been edited by veistran on October 24, 2001 at 12:55 PM

Posted by Vainness on Oct. 23 2001,01:08

Hmmm first concert i first felt the effects of hearing damage was at a Goldfinger concert when after the show ended my cousin and I realized we had been standing next to three massive speakers. We left unable to hear ourselves talk and the ringing was insanely loud. It wore off the next day. Since then i have always heard the sound of say speakers that are left on, in my ears. I have learned to live with it, because only in a quiet room does it drive me insane.Now i definitely bring earplugs to to concerts cuz i don't want to ruin my ears anymore than they are, and feel bad for my friends who think they don't need them.

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Posted by Dark Knight Bob on Oct. 23 2001,18:20

quote:
Originally posted by TheTaxMan:
Provided you cang et that frequency out of...whatever device you're using.

erm a signal generator does just that. you dont need a very high quality speaker to produce that frequency with the amplitude cranked up it should have no problem of making an accurate low frequency sound.

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This message has been edited by Dark Knight Bob on October 24, 2001 at 01:22 PM

Posted by EvilGenius on Oct. 23 2001,18:29

quote:
Originally posted by Dark Knight Bob:
erm a signal generator does just that. you dont need a very high quality speaker to produce that frequency with the amplitude cranked up it should have no problem of making an accurate low frequency sound.

you used to be able to get the old pc speakers to generate signals (0Hz - 32K+Hz) with Qbasic back in the DOS days... what nonsense there used to be... where have all the good times gone?