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Topic: Dammit, what the HELL is wrong with these people?
started by: The_Stomper

Posted by The_Stomper on Mar. 22 2001,22:52

I'm just sittin down, reading my paper, when what jumps up? Another psychotic f***er shooting up his school. What the hell is wrong with these kids?

Posted by Vigilante on Mar. 22 2001,22:58

All the ritalin the gubment has dumped into the drinking water supply is finally unbalancing them.

Posted by PersonGuy on Mar. 23 2001,00:38

I'm going to repeat LL Adam C on this one...

In BMX biking and skateboarding they didn't used to do half the stuff they do now. But one day, someone did a flip on a bike and everone else saw it and said, "Whoa! You CAN do a flip," and now everyone does flips. Just the fact that someone already did it makes it possible.

The shootings are the same way now, because these crimes are perpitrated by the same group of people who would normally just kill themselves. Now they've been given an option to suicide OR shoot a bunch of people first. Acording to data... teen school shootings are up... teen suicides are down, and in nearly equal amounts.

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Posted by CatKnight on Mar. 23 2001,01:13

interesting, yet scarry point.

i think its also the kids who dont have many friends and dont get attention from their parents, wanting 15 minutes of fame no matter how they get it. i think the tv news has been going about the covereage COMPLETELY FUCKING WRONG. dont plaster the killer's name and face everywhere, that makes him FAMOUS and IDLED by other potential killers. They never evne mention the names of the students killed. the news needs to REPEATADLY show stories of the students and their friends and families that were killed, and not mention the shooter AT ALL, except that there was one.

Posted by miNus on Mar. 23 2001,01:26

I believe that it is only partially the fucked up kids' fault. Growing up in Alaska, my stepfather was a hunter. He had guns. When we first moved there, he taught me the basic rules of gun safety. NEVER point a gun at anything unless you plan on killing it. ALWAYS treat a gun as if it is a loaded weapon. Seeing these two points, and being of sound mental health, I never pointed a gun at anyone, even just playing around. When I was big enough to handle guns, he taught me how to shoot. Being around guns, and using them, really puts you at awe of the power they have. You have a respect for them, but you are not afraid of them. I am proud to say that if I needed to, I could defend myself. But at the same time, you realize that you wouldn't, couldn't do the kinds of things that have been going on lately.

Anyway, so my point is:
Kids who grow up around guns are more likely to respect them and (I believe) less likely to resort to killing to settle their issues.

Damn, I don't even remember turning rant mode on.

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Posted by Kintara on Mar. 23 2001,06:58

Theres definitely been a rash of shootings because of copy-cats realizing they can take out all those fuckers who made their lives miserable in the first place. I think its obvious why this makes sense to them. Bullies can be relentlessly cruel. I personally dont see many of their lives being useful myself.

I think that theres very little we can do to stop copy-cats. I think what we need to focus on is stopping the BULLIES. Failing that, at least allow a way to open communication in school about bullying that doesnt feel in any way like snitching. I don't like placing blame, who cares who's fault it is. We just need to help prevent it.

SERIOUS MODE OFF

--Kintara

Posted by masher on Mar. 23 2001,08:21

quote:
Originally posted by miNus:
Anyway, so my point is:
Kids who grow up around guns are more likely to respect them and (I believe) less likely to resort to killing to settle their issues.

That only works if you are taught to respect the weapon. If the firearm is bandied about like a toy by the parents, then the kids will play with it as well.

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Posted by shiznit on Mar. 23 2001,16:22

At my school in the Bay Area someone wrote "on March 20 i will kill you all" on a desk in biology. This caused 600 out of 1700 kids to miss school on 3/20. It was fuking insane. The kid who wrote it was "joking" but he got arrested.. Great joke

Posted by Rhydant on Mar. 24 2001,05:00

i live in san diego.
you should all feel sorry for me...
...im going to be listening to this on the news and on every radio station for the next 3 weeks. "granite hills this, granite hills that."
i think the guy that shot up the school on friday decided to do it becuase the santana thing drove him off the deeo end
no *fucking* wonder.

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Posted by Neophyre on Mar. 24 2001,10:11

the point is, i don't recall ANY of the shootings involving the death or injury of the bully or bullies.

all that were shot, were just random targets.

honestly, if they were seriously gonna do something like this, they should have done it properly, and GET THE FUCKERS THAT CAUSE THE PAIN, not the innocents.

thats the thing that shits me the most, they all go on and bitch about how they were picked on, blah blah blah, they just wanted to get them back, yet they didnt even target ANY of the bullies.

Posted by Vigilante on Mar. 24 2001,12:04

Eh... these days it's not just one bigger kid who turns you upside down and steals your lunch money twice a week. It's a concerted, partially-organized campaign of mental and emotional torture on what is essentially a lower class of students (class not referring to grade or economic background).

These chumps feel (with some validity) that everyone is out to get them. Paranoia is easily developed in the american public school system.

This message has been edited by Vigilante on March 25, 2001 at 07:05 AM

Posted by Spydir Web on Mar. 24 2001,14:00

quote:
Originally posted by syf0n:
last day of school I'm printing a t-shirt that says "I've got a bomb in my locker" and wearing it to classes. see how uptight that makes the teachers!

it'll get you some good ol' prison time, probably. Seriously. A read a kid in Minnisota did something like that (think his shirt said "He's got a gun!" and had a picture of him on it) a month after Columbine and he got locked up in "juvie" for 6 months.

Then again, considering it's you, that's a good thing. Please, do it. No joking. Hell, I'll buy the shirt for you.

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Posted by solid on Mar. 25 2001,03:01

Those kids should head out, grab their home camcorders and shoot (pun) a movie about shooting the kids using toy guns or something.

That'd be much better. And in case they get angry, just grab some popcorn, pop in the tape, and kick back.

Ok, ok. Next time I'll keep the solutions to my problems to myself.