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Anyway, Sithiee, go back under your rock and come back out when you learn some shit. Fuckhead.

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I don't want to start everyone going off on a massive country slagging match i just hate it when americans (not all, just the egotistical asshole ones) try to act all superior to everyone when some countries have got a lot of things more sorted than america who still have problems eg. just have people tick the damn boxes! whats all this bollox hole punching crap to choose a president.

i'm sure i've made no real point and just pissed off a few people but it had to be said

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and america lost vietnam...dickheads

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do something that everyone knows about. i.e. america is up in everyones face with the superior army and such, but no one knows what canada does for anyone.

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since when does capacity for war determine how "good" a country is?

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This message has been edited by fatbitch on November 23, 2000 at 08:22 PM

I guess I'll put in my two cents.

I am not going to say anything about Canadians, because we aren't perfect, just like the rest of the world.

Americans are ignorant. The people who are not ignorant are a minority by a long shot. Most people who say they are part of this minority are talking out their ass.

And this "Canada not doing anything" rot is utter bullshit. Who keeps the peace in places like West Bank and Kosovo? UN peacekeepers, mostly Canadian. How do I know this? I need the newspaper. My Canadian newspaper has this kind of stuff in it. Does your American newspaper have it too? Does your six-o-clock news mention anything relating to any foreign countries? Very little, I know, because I get all your major networks on my Canadian cable television. Do I pay attention to American politics? Yes, I read and see it every day, on my Canadian and American television.

That brings up another note, what do you actually hear about us, compared to what we hear about you. Any American can tell you the two presidential candidates, but could they tell you the five major candidates, running for the upcoming election on Monday? No. Your news doesn't tell you jack shit about what's going on up north.

I think I've made my point here. I present a challenge to all the Americans on these forums; can you list the five (5) major political parties and their leaders, here in Canada, off the top of your head?

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Just saying "america sucks or canucks should die" is fucking racist and if theres one THING I CANT CONDONE ITS FUCKING RACISM AAAARGH

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what has america done for the world? plenty. thats why you have respect for us,

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hhhahhhhaaaaahhahahahahahahahaaa....now that's comedy. the Bay of Pigs, the bankrupting of Russia + Eastern Europe through a pointless arms race, Striptease, Panama, 'US English', New Kids on the Block, arming/training the taliban/moujahadin i won't go on.
much respec'

Canadians on the other hand command my utmost respect for having to share a continent with some of the most reactionary fucks the planet has seen fit to produce whilst still maintaining a sense of humour. good work fellas. oh and i like the way their heads flap about when they talk

disclaimer: there is an outside chance that some americans may not be complete cunts. possibly.

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disclaimer: there is an outside chance that some americans may not be complete cunts. possibly.

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BAH...

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90\% of the canadians I know are cool.
50\% of the americans I know are cool.

Just saying "america sucks or canucks should die" is fucking racist and if theres one THING I CANT CONDONE ITS FUCKING RACISM AAAARGH

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its not racist. its discrimination. get your "queens english" right.

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Originally posted by Sithiee:
vietnam was a dumb war in the first place...

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No, because it wasn't a war.

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More from Sithiee:
we dont like to fight, only when its a necessity. we just happen to be in a position where we can remain neutral as long as possible, but we dont anymore, because of the holocaust.

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What the hell are you talking about? It sounds like you're trying to say that current US foreign policy is a direct result of the holocaust...which, I may add, is quite an idiotic concept.

BTW, in case you thought otherwise, the US did NOT enter WWII to save the Jews, as nice as that would have been.

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but honestly, get some more self respect, there are far too many canadians leaving canada and coming here

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I guess by that rationale, keeping in mind that the US is a mecca for immigrants of all sorts, that every Mexican, Korean, Brit, Australian, Filipino, Israeli, Egyptian, Portuguese, et cetera, et cetera, lacks the self-respect of goodhearted Statesmen like yourself.

Sithiee, you need to cool out...you're making me embarrassed to be an American.

edit: Nigel, I didn't know there are five major parties...but I know of the Liberals (led by incumbent Chretin), the 'Bloc Quebec' (Duceppe), and the C.A. (Day..or Sotckwell?)

This message has been edited by whiskey@throttle on November 24, 2000 at 12:17 AM

and your right, few american news stations show much about other countries. yknow why? americans dont care. hell, we barely care about ourselves, do you notice that about 60\% of the eligible voters in our country even register to vote? if we can barely care about our own country that much, why the hell are we gonna spend time to learn about your country? and until canadians offer up something to get america's attention, no, we aren't gonna care. im not saying its the answer, but cuba sure got some attention when fidel came in.

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its not racist. its discrimination. get your "queens english" right.

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Recent: Cold war is over, we have no major enemies to be at war with, but we have all sorts of cool toys. We have come to the conclusion that we can dominate a region with our technology, so we judiciously (not necessarily the good sense of the word) try to quell problems as early as is politically possible... because we can, and nobody else really wants to. We are still shy about sending our boys in on the ground to die, but we certainly make it easier for others to do so.

Plus, all you Canadians are the same, with your beady eyes and flapping heads...

i hate you all! every single one of you bastards! americans, canadians, russians, britians, mexicans, fuck you all!

you want to sit there and tell me that i'm ignorant and stupid because of what country i was born in. what is wrong with you people. who gives a shit where you were born? does it matter? fuck no!

america is dumb. but so is every other place in this world. i love my country (which happens to be america), and i respect yours(where ever you guys and gurls are from). and thats the bottom line.

back off me and my country. i hate most the stupid asses in it but you don't live here, you don't know what it's like. all you see is whats on the t.v., or some asshole in a chat room or bbs. thats not what america is about.

why is it that you think you should get respect from americans when your busy bashing and disrespecting them? you think i'm gonna respect you if you are rude to me and my family? NO! give respect get respect, from me atleast.

america didn't enter WWII at the last minute when we knew we could win. that is the biggest load of shit i've ever read! we entered the war after hundreds of our countrymen were killed for no reason in what is called Pearl Harbor. Remember that? and i dont think the allies could have won with out our help. our men died out there to. our blood was spilled just the same as yours. remember normandy (spelling?)? that was the turning point in the war, well how did we enter WWII when the allies where winning if d-day happened after america joined the war?

you supply the materials for our precious nuclear weapons? that lacked any real thought! i sure as shit don't like nuclear weapons and would never consider them precious! you can take that material and shove it up your as for all i care.

red coat, green coat who gives a shit.

(btw, i don't hate you all, was just fucking around)

It's not as if all americans are the same. There's some cool americans it's just that they get outweighed by Sithiees. Lardasses who can't even figure out where their own country is let alone Canada.

There was a test carried out on high school graduates in america. They were asked to locate their country on a an unmarked map of the globe. 60\% of them pointed to the big place because that had to be America. They pointed out Russia.

Why don't americans go to war at the start but leave it a while first? Because they've got to figure out where the fuck the enemy is first. "Kosovo? Don't ya mean Kansas?"

Okay, cheap gags aside, america isn't exactly the arse of the world, they do do some good stuff and we have to admit that WW2 would have gone on a lot longer if the americans hadn't helped. They joined WW1 after the Lusitania got sunk, why did it go down so bad? Because it was ferrying weapons for our use. In WW2, I think Roosevelt gave the UK a free loan of about a trillion dollars or something and gave us a load of tanks and they later joined the war.

What gets me though is that some americans realise their faults but most of them don't know what fault means except for the one under 'Frisco'.

Sithiee, you americans really hate the nazis didn't you, that's why you stole all of their rocket technology, pardoned the V2's designers and used doctors from concentration camps to get ahead with the spce programme and genetics.

And, Sniper3k, it's "Queen's English" not "queens english" I just don't want you to look stupid.
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And, Sniper3k, it's "Queen's English" not "queens english" I just don't want you to look stupid.

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Sithiee, you americans really hate the nazis didn't you...[later he says] get ahead with the spce programme...

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Lazygit, it's "Americans" not "americans", "Nazis" not "nazis", and "space" not "spce". Wouldn't want you to look like a smart ass fool who makes the same mistakes he points out.

And, Sithiee, stop sprouting off your bullshit facts and twisted statistics. If you knew anything about WWII, then you would know that it was the Russians, not the Americans, that sacrificed the most people in the war. A total of 17-20 million (the estimation ranges by source) Russians died during the war, approximately 13.5 million which were military casualties. In my opinion, it was the USSR that won the war, for they delivered the final blow, alone, when Hitler pressed north. The fact that they did it without the help of any other country was the spark that set in motion their animosity for the west, especially the US. If anyone deserves the most credit for their efforts in WWII, it is definitely the USSR. (To put it in perspective, this is contrasted to the US 400,000 KIA and Canada's 40,000 KIA)...take in mind these numbers vary from source to source, but I took an average from 3 major ones.

Let's be honest with ourselves - NO country, not the US, Canada, or anywhere else - is going to pay the costly sacrifice of lives and economy to fight a full scale war unless there is a payoff in the end. Perhaps there is oil to protect, perhaps a maniac is trying to take over the world...it's all the same. I mean, we hear all this hype about the Holocaust, but seriously, there's been other genocides that no one even cares about. That's just it's the one we got involved in, for we were fighting a war to benefit ourselves in the process. So now everyone thinks it is the most horrid genocide in history. Fuck that. It makes me sick to hear another trite WWII Holocaust story when < Operation Slaughterhouse and the Bleiburg Massacre > remains relatively unknown. When is Hollywood going to make a propaganda movie about the < Rwandan genocide? > How about < Armenia? >

And just take a step back and look at this pathetic thread. Some of you non-Americans are just as bad as the people you are bashing. Since when does ignorance, bigotry, and stereotyping cure the same? It seems a lot of you have this pent up aggression towards our culture and way of life...you see us as snide and lazy, born with silver spoons up our ass and taking the world for granted. Wake up, every capitalist, first world country has people like this. Yet, every citizen does not fit this profile.

Everything has it's good and it's bad; it is in the balance that we find the scales tipped towards productivity, progress, and positive affects on our neighbors. Sure, the US has it's flaws, but we didn't get to the position we are magically. The majority of Americans share a common bond of striving to be the best, and making our country a great place to live.

I try to harbor a respect for Canadians, and press my assurance that I do not share Sithiee's opinions. I can only hope some of you can do the same.

In the city I live in, Edmonton, at the university here, we are a leader in medical research. Scientists here have come a long way in Diabetes research, with new treatments to eliminate the annoying and pain staking process a diabetic person must go through EVERYDAY (my friend is, I know). This surely is very interesting indeed. They believe they can implant an organ inside the person to produce insulin for them, this is very exciting, a cure for diabetes? I'm sure you might have read about the millions of dollars the American government is putting into this research, but did you ever read about where it was all happening? I doubt it...

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and about those numbers, i apologize for being wrong, i was under the impression we had more losses, but i guess that doesnt make much sense, cause then the baby boom generation wouldnt be much of a boom....

and your damn right i havent got respect for canadians in general, just like with everyone. no one deserves respect by default, you have to earn it. im not saying i respect americans individually, but as a whole, i respect our country, cause i think we've earned it. its like with most of my teachers, they think they automatically deserve my respect because theyre my teacher, and thats bullshit, and i show them that...but if they do something to earn my respect, even if its just teaching really well, then i will respect them. thats my philosophy, and you may not like it, but thats how i am.

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Originally posted by LazyGit:
To be honest DrunkNigel, they're not going to care about an organ unless they can eat it.

It's not as if all americans are the same. There's some cool americans it's just that they get outweighed by Sithiees. Lardasses who can't even figure out where their own country is let alone Canada.

There was a test carried out on high school graduates in america. They were asked to locate their country on a an unmarked map of the globe. 60\% of them pointed to the big place because that had to be America. They pointed out Russia.

Why don't americans go to war at the start but leave it a while first? Because they've got to figure out where the fuck the enemy is first. "Kosovo? Don't ya mean Kansas?"

Okay, cheap gags aside, america isn't exactly the arse of the world, they do do some good stuff and we have to admit that WW2 would have gone on a lot longer if the americans hadn't helped. They joined WW1 after the Lusitania got sunk, why did it go down so bad? Because it was ferrying weapons for our use. In WW2, I think Roosevelt gave the UK a free loan of about a trillion dollars or something and gave us a load of tanks and they later joined the war.

What gets me though is that some americans realise their faults but most of them don't know what fault means except for the one under 'Frisco'.

Sithiee, you americans really hate the nazis didn't you, that's why you stole all of their rocket technology, pardoned the V2's designers and used doctors from concentration camps to get ahead with the spce programme and genetics.

And, Sniper3k, it's "Queen's English" not "queens english" I just don't want you to look stupid.
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the v2 technology was russian

AGAIN, THE RED ARMY REIGNS VICTORIOUS OVER ALL

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well said. if any of you knew as much about america as you claimed to, you would understand my comment about remaining neutral. we didnt used to like to get into any war. in ww1, we stayed out as long as possible, and only after american citizens died on the lusitania, as well as a few other factors, were we mad enough to come into the war. we happen to be in a location that allowed us to stay so far away that it was possible for us to remain fairly neutral. come in and win it at at the last second? no no no. the reason we did well is because our commanders waited to long preparing the troops, and even then, for a while, a lot of our troops did shitty compared to the seasoned allies. we were fresh troops, yes. experienced troops, no. we had fucking numbers though. most of the allied countries' land area combined was small compared to the size of the US, yes, we had strength in numbers. ww2, we remained neutral again, but then they attacked pearl harbor. once again incuring the wrath of the americans. did we come in at the end when it was easy? FUCK NO! D-Day we had probably more casualties than any other country (no i dont know the numbers offhand) because we had the most troops to lose. again, we had fresh troops, and that is how we helped to win again. after that, when we found out about the holocaust and all the people who had died because we wanted to remain neutral, the US developed a new philosophy, where we decided rather than take any chances, we would stop any genocide we saw(basically). this could be seen in korea, and again in vietnam, and even up to now. we try to help at the slightest sign of fighting (i dont necessarily agree, but thats how it is).

and your right, few american news stations show much about other countries. yknow why? americans dont care. hell, we barely care about ourselves, do you notice that about 60\% of the eligible voters in our country even register to vote? if we can barely care about our own country that much, why the hell are we gonna spend time to learn about your country? and until canadians offer up something to get america's attention, no, we aren't gonna care. im not saying its the answer, but cuba sure got some attention when fidel came in.

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as somebody before me stated, america does NOT get involved in any genocide. they got involved in vietnam because of the cia drugs, and in korea for a like reason. america does things for its own gain and its own peoples' gain. we (as a russian living in america speaking for americans) are one of the most selfish countries in the world if we take alook at proportional statistics. for americas size, we do shit to help other counties and people around the world.

That is the Manifest Destiny, dream of the USA.

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Oh yeah, Wh4ck3r, you are perfect example of a ignorant American. Look basketball up in an Encyclopedia man. Oh yeah, you don't care, so you'll just stick with waht you think is correct.

< This guy > invented Basketball, he is a Canadian, he was teaching in the Physical Education department at Springfield (Mass.) College.

But this is Wh4ck3r we're talking about here, right? He's a fucking idiot, everyone on this board must know that by now...

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and i will say it again. NO I DONT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT OTHER COUNTRIES. i dont care about what canada is supposedly doing for us. the world at the country level is like a capitolist society, if someone doesnt want to provide a service, there is almost always someone else to turn to. educated properly? wtf do you mean by properly? if you mean educated like you, then no, i dont swallow all your canadian bullshit. if you were educated "properly" you would know its not "35\% of there car economy" but rather "35\% of their car economy". and i dont know who considers our educational system "brainwash" cause its not. not at my school anyway, because most of it couldnt be. can you brainwash someone into learning calculus and physics? no. those are subjects that are really only right and wrong, and you cant bend the teaching of those subjects to one's agenda. as for our social studies classes, mine encourage free thinking, in fact my government class is mostly an open discussion forum. and our teacher is constantly pointing out the problems with our book, so i dont see how she could be trying to brainwash us. and there was a course in world history, but our teacher did not know what she was doing, so i didnt pay attention (her "teaching" was reading her 20-25 page notes that we were sposed to copy word for word). if i actually cared about what goes on in other countries, i would find out. the point is, like many americans, i dont care, cause its not my problem. and our army may not be numerically superior, but we are technilogically superior. also, contrary to your opinion, we dont love the atomic bomb, and we dont praise it, or even teach about it as though it was some great peacemaker. we admit that its use was probably(i say probably, because we cant say for sure what would of happened otherwise) a mistake. the only reason we still have nuclear weapons is because if we dismantled all of ours, we would be relativly defenseless, but if you take notice, we have been trying to work out agreements with all nuclear capable countries to dismantle them. I value our army, because it is important to have, not for displaying superiority or anything, but as a means of defense, to quote Roosevelt "Speak softly, but carry a big stick." our army is our stick.

you also dont know shit about whats going on in our country. if you did, you would know that recently there have been plans implemented to pay down the debt, and that if we keep on the plan, it will be payed off by i think 2013. and yes, we spend a lot on credit, but its for a reason. all the money we lent to countries after the world wars not only improved relations with those countries, but it helped them to rebuild.

Im not saying that America is the best, but it is far from the worst, and until you can recognize it, you best stop speaking.

Sith; shut up! If not for yourslef, then for all the Americans you give a bad name.

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1. A lot of you (Cyrino, Joe, etc.) who seem to enjoy bashing my country are only emphasizing your ignorance: you're on this thread, hypocritically defending your own countries solely by criticizing another in the same fashion you supposedly detest.
   
2. Since when is it an economically prominent country's responsibility to unconditionally help the rest of the world? As charitable as anyone can be, I highly doubt anyone donates the majority of their paycheck to others...keep in mind that the primary beneficiaries of the USA's prominence are indeed the citizens that make up the country - not the foreign world. The US has had its faults in the past, but I truly believe the US government retains its best efforts to help out where it can. Of course, where better place is there for one to be criticized and chastised than the spotlight? Such is the nature of the beast...you can't be on top without realizing that the heat rises...
   
3. I don't know what it is that perpetuates threads like this one, but apparently it has something to do with the clash between boastful pride, cultural gaps, value differences, and perhaps even jealousy. I don't know. All I know is that this thread makes me ill. I only hope you aren't representative of the rest of your country's population.
   

edit: had to add "ignorance" in #1

This message has been edited by whiskey@throttle on November 26, 2000 at 02:38 PM

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Cyrino... go back to your own planet. You may have some numbers, which may or may not be true, but you still seem clueless about American life... only 1 step more informed as I am about Canadian life. I don't really have a clue what Canada is like. I assume it's a lot like the Twin Cities with more French. I never really cared about Canada. I've always wanted to visit. You probably have a lot more pristine land than we do here. But I don't see news about any other country's daily life on the news here. We're too busy doing tasty and entertaining things here to pay attention to parts of the world if it doesn't affect us.

As for the American Dream: It is different for every American, but generally it has to do with living a life without being in fear of not being able to support your family... probably oddly like many other people in the world.

Canadians, you should just be happy with your anonymously successful society. You could be living just like us, but in the world spotlight if you want. Remember, though, that there are a lot of crazy people in this world that call America the Devil, and are willing to strap a bomb on their back and walking the streets of New York.

While we're at it, why don't we just rename this thread: America Bad. It's certainly easier than talking about the people who talk trash about Canada... which, I've never met that person.

"There not even a real country anyway" -Kinko's Guy

Sithiee, the VW Beetle was designed by the greatest anti-semite of them all: Adolf Hitler.

I would love it sooo much if you drive a VW, especially if it's a Beetle.
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If you were educated PROPERLY, you would realize that Canada is provides 92\% of the satelites for the US, 56\% of wheat, 45\% of computer supplies, 35\% of there car economy, 12\% of their business freetrade, and is the only reason that America keeps free trade with other G7 countries.

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i couldn't help but think: if Canada provides that much stuff for the us, that must mean we (America) are the backbone of your economy. with out us buying your "goods" you would be bankrupt and (maybe, not for certian) become part of the U.S.A.

in case you missed it before (read carefully): It doesn't fucking matter where you were born! there are jackasses everywhere (Cyrino proves Canada is no exception) your views on a person should reflect that person only, not the country s/he was born in. it's just rude/ignorant/retared/dumb/stupid to judge one by the country in which they were born. did you have a choice of places to be born in????? no! and neither did i. i ploped out of my mom in some new and unknow world (later in my life i learned it was called earth, and i lived in a part of earth called America) i didn't ask to be born here, it just happened and to hate me for it is dumb.

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Lets put an end to these destructors and organize a mass genocide. HERE HERE!!

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haha, try it! see how far you get.

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CAN ANYONE EVEN TELL ME WHAT THE FUCK THE AMERICAN DREAM REALLY IS ANYWAYS!! THERE IS NO SUCH THING.

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to me the American Dream is being free to choose how i live my life, being free to dress the way i want, to talk the way i want, to live where i want, to like who i want, to see things the way i want. to sum it up the American Dream is having the freedom to be who i want to be, without the fear of persicution against me.

i think europeans used it as a symbol of freedom. i don't think the "American Dream" is a fitting title, should be more like "Life's Dream" or some shit like that, because it isn't just America's dream it is the dream of everyone who dreams about who they are and what the want to accomplish in life.
(My version of the "American Dream" maybe different (or the same for that matter) from others of the same species.)

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The success of the American economy is only because of the rediculous faith people have in their country.

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America is on top and in the spot light because other countrys can't seem to let us go and mind their own business. why are we always in your mind? we don't fuck with that many people and if we do it is because we (read: the government) think(s) you are doing something that is wrong and hurtful to others (we aren't always right, and it isn't new news to the people of the us.)

respect me and i will respect you. i don't give a rats ass where you are from. and if you can't get past what country i live in you can go fuck yourself, i don't have the time for you!

i'm done with this topic. i'm just repeating the obvious (spelliong?)

This message has been edited by pengu1nn on November 27, 2000 at 01:36 PM

I don't know the exact numbers and I don't really care to, I just don't like it when people don't give credit where credit is due *cough* Sithiee. I do not discriminate against individuals, when I meet someone, it doesn't matter where they're from, I give them the same chance as everyone else.

I can't remember who said it but it went something like this: "A person can be smart, but mankind as a whole is stupid." I think that's closer to the truth than anything.

and about the homosexual thing, that is really a sore spot for me, ill admit. i kind of have to deal with it, cause i have a bad case of psoriasis, and im constantly dealing with people who dont like me simply because i have a disease. wtf is up with that? i do nothing to offend them, its the way i was born, and yet they dont like me for it. so yeah, ill get on anyone's ass for discrimination of any kind, because its just not ok.

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And, Sniper3k, it's "Queen's English" not "queens english" I just don't want you to look stupid.

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So I said, sarcastically
Lazygit, it's "Americans" not "americans", "Nazis" not "nazis", and "space" not "spce". Wouldn't want you to look like a smart ass fool who makes the same mistakes he points out.

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So I'm the pedant. Right. Lazygut, next time take a longer whiff of older posts before you stumble over my way.

Oh, I almost forgot - you're still wrong. It's not spelled with all caps, since it is not an acronym. It's an abbreviation for Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiter-Partei, universally noted (and spelled)as The Nazi Party.

(Just living up to my title, dude.)

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Originally posted by Sithiee:
i know it was designed by him. but that does not make VW anti-semitic.

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Just to quell a false statement thats been going around for way too long: Hitler did NOT design the Beetle. okay? He actually had almost nothing to do with it. Ferdinand Porsche designed and built it (yes he started Porsche too) Hitler basically backed the car with government money because he (correctly) saw the need for cheap efficient transportation.

In regards to Canada vs. America, our mutual border has been undefended for longer than any other international border in the world. I have no idea where this percieved animosity comes from, but i've never seen an American seriously talking shit about canada in my life. Canada would be almost perfect if it were a little warmer ;]
If i had to leave the US though, I know exactly where i would go.

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Originally posted by Sithiee:
please, whenevr you think ive made a factual mistake, tell me, i want to know. dont call me dumb because you dont agree with me though, that just makes you idiotic.

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Ok, so can I call you a hypocrite instead?

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Originally posted by Sithiee:
...second, jim, youre dumb. third, jim, youre dumb. fourth, naturally, JIM, YOU ARE DUMB!...
...but hey, jims just a dumb redneck with his cell phone and a holier than thou attitude....

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If I remember correctly you called me dumb just because I disagreed with you about Cell Phones, and Homosexuals...

Just pointing out the obvious.

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As for the bashing of each others countries. That's just stupid. I'd like anyone to find a post I've made where I bashed the U.S. You won't find one. I understand that you Statesmen feel offended and under attack when people like j0e say stupid shit, "We supply your water...blablabla..." Who the fuck cares if we supply there water? That has nothing to do with ANYTHING. Just like the fact that we may, or may not, supply resources for their nukes has nothing to do with ANYTHING. Where did you find this information? I'm not saying you're wrong. But last time I checked the U.S. and all the water it needed. Why would they need us? What? You're going to tell me that Americans would dehydrate if not for us...? Please. You make Canadians look like fools.

As for the few enlightened people that have posted. People like whiskey and DrunkNigel; although I may not agree with some of the stuff you say, kudos to you. You speak with some knowledge of what you want to say, and just don't go, "Cana-duh bad. We good..."

Have a good day.

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This message has been edited by Vulu on November 28, 2000 at 08:13 AM

Wanna know why I had a go at Sniper3k? Becasue of his grammar and spelling.

Ofcourse it fucking wasn't, tool, he was being a dick earlier to some other British guy so rather than have a direct go at what he said I picked up the queen's english thing. It's this thing called subtlety. Do you have that in america? You do? Oh yes, it's a euphamism for skyscraper isn't it.

Oh, and you appear to have misspelt my name a few times, wanker@throttle (spelling?)

Or were they just typos? You must have missed them when you edited you post, I'll forgive you.

I know Hitler didn't design the Beetle but he paid for it to be made. Same thing. However, I'm not a dumbarse. If Ford were actually building and selling cars to fund a global massacre of Jews then I'd think twice about nipping into a showroom but they're not. Japanese car makers don't have basements filled with 90 year old British PoWs still being tortured and the last I heard Mercedes weren't burning God's people anymore (sue me).

Wagner was antisemitic. Don't watch Apocalypse Now it uses Die Valkyrie. Not as if you do anyway, is it? Because it shows how crap you were over there. That's right, you lost. What's that you say? It wasn't a proper war anyway? No it wasn't because a proper war needs two decent sides in it doesn't it?

Americans don't suck becasue they're american it's just how some of them are, they can't help it. Just be glad you don't live there.

"You've broken your leg?"
"Yes, I am in tremendous pain, could you please help me? By the way, I'm unemployed."
"That'll be 8 million dollars please."
"I haven't got that much money."
"Could you kindly fuck off please, sir."
cheers

blah.

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As for LazyDick; er, LazyGit...sorry. I don't think whiskey gives a shit if you call him a wanker; of course I don't speak for him. Yes, maybe whiskey says some stupid shit (we've all said some stupid shit). But at least he makes sense.

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Originally posted by whiskey@throttle:
blah blah blah blah

blah.

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Well said...

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This message has been edited by Vulu on November 29, 2000 at 06:02 AM

whiskey@throttle - ah come on now don't be a spoil sport, you know the only entertainment us brits get is baiting americans. deep down we're just jealous anyway ;-)

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Originally posted by Vulu:
You stupid, stupid fuck. I didn't SAY that you REPRESENT America or its citizens! You fucking retarded piece of goat shit. I said, you give Americans a bad name! And I think I'm right.

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Originally posted by Sithiee:
if you ... let my actions reflect upon your opinion of my country, you are really dumb.

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Vulu, there's a little thing called reading. You should try it some time.

Also, when you make statements like, "Person X gives nation Y a bad name," it's pretty much the same thing as saying, "Person X represents nation Y." In your mind, you've already allowed person X to represent nation Y. That's pretty evident from your statements.

Last thing I want to know is, what did you hope to accomplish when you initiated this thread with a veiled insult? Did you really believe that there'd be some kind of peaceable resolution? Or were you just looking to start a fight?

Vulu, as if I care that he doesn't mind being called wanker. It wasn't meant to be an insult. He was fucking up my name on purpose so I did it to him and made a joke out of it.

Ofcourse you can't say that a whole country's citizens are the same as one person that you met from that place, that's called stereotyping as if you didn't know. BUT people still believe stereotypes, that's why it makes sense for Vulu to say that Sithiee gives America a bad name because it implies that some people are going to think that most americans are like Sithiee which is the case because not everybody is as educated or cultured as others or even just as intelligent. Stereotypes are nice things for stupid people because they don't have to think that there's lots of very different people in the world.

Crafty stop doing the wringing the cloth cap thing. We don't suck. America doesn't suck. Nowhere sucks just because it's somewhere. Unless it's a whore. But even that's open to debate. You sometimes have to pay extra.
cheers

He's from Quebec which isn't really a part of Canada .

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Originally posted by j0eSmith:
He's from Quebec which isn't really a part of Canada .

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and can i know what's wrong with living in quebec? ;-)

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"does a foreign country have the power to launch our nuclear weapons?"

"canada's foreign? and a country?"

i'm sure i messed that up somewhere but anyway

blame canada, blame canada.

Oh, and about those movies? They're making fun of Americans' impressions of Canadians, that's why it's funny.

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2. I have nothing against America. You say I'm trying to start a fight with a masked insult. OK, if that's what you think...fine. Maybe I haven't phrased my words correctly, or maybe you people just don't understand where I'm coming from. In my opinion, most Americans make us Canadians feel like a minority. Granted, my countries leaders seem content with being a follower to the U.S. You say "jump" and we say "how high?" And you're right, I don't speak for Canada. Nobody should HAVE to represent their country; but we do. I do. And maybe you guys think I'm a pretentious asshole and that I stereotype people. Well, then I guess I've done a bad job of representing Canada. This was not my intent. I am proud to be Canadian. just like you are proud to be American, Sithiee. You should therefore, in my opinion, be able to unofficially speak for Americans. Is that not the aim of being patriotic? To represent your home and heritage? Correct me if I'm wrong...

3. hiro - what the hell are you talking about? Sithiee is American (person X) and is from the U.S. (country X). So, please, explain...

"The most important part of communication is hearing what isn't being said."

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This message has been edited by Vulu on December 04, 2000 at 11:27 AM

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Originally posted by j0eSmith:
fuck, no.

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I stand corrected!

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Anyway, there are two variables given unknown values. Person (X) = Specified persons name, Nation (Y) = Specified nation. The whole assumption is that Person (X) is from Nation (Y). However, correlation doesn't imply causation. Therfore, the two variables are not interchangable... X doesn't = Y. Unless, the specified person had their own nation/country named after them. So, there cannot be a Person (X) AND a Nation (X). Hope that clears that up.

Oh, LazyGit, that thing about subtlety earlier in the post. I guess that whole notion went out the window in all your last replies huh.

One more thing, debate all you want people... but no one is going to hate what you hate, just 'cause you hate it. Same thing, no one's gonna like what you like, just 'cause etc etc etc...

Other then that, carry on...

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Originally posted by FlexDexter:
Unless, the specified person had their own nation/country named after them. So, there cannot be a Person (X) AND a Nation (X). Hope that clears that up.

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That's not true. What about American "American McGee's Alice" McGee? I'm almost positive, though I did go to a public school, that America was named a few years before he was born. In this case, person(X) = nation(X).

Once again, wrong!

Canada is too clean? ...that's a bad thing?

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I really don't like the comments expressed on both sides here. There are Canadians talking about dumb lazy Americans, etc, but I think you shouldn't just stereotype the entire nation because of one person. And that goes for the Americans too.

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Granted, most Americans are a bit rough on their Geography and World History, but we have a nice little place where we can get away with that for a while. We have people who's jobs it is to know about a lot of that stuff.

And, you think the world feeds into this a little? You said yourself that Canadia schools teach about US history. Everybody in the world seems to learn English. Everybody gets our movies eventually. They get our computer software. We produce these things and people seem to like them.

America has an amazing work ethic by comparison. Granted, you find slobs around, but all in all it's pretty good. We work 40 hour work weeks (at a minimum), we get 2 weeks vacation a year (including sick days and personal holidays), and we work our asses off while there. Friggin France seems to take the month of August off. Stores close in Germany on Wednesday at like 4:00 (so I'm told by one of my friends who is there right now). I don't mean to put down other countries because of this... they probably have the right attitude. But it's pretty indicitive that America has an amazing attitude and patriotism. There isn't a huge number of people immigrating away from here each year. Most of out population growth is due to folks coming here.

So, there is a reason that everybody knows us. We're the popular kid! People like to hear what we say, and they envy us. At least, that's what my government controlled television and textbooks tell me...

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Did you happen to notice that your entire computer (aside from the Burner maybe) was made in AMERICA? Yay!

Maybe I'll have to go over there and take it back until you can build me a Maple Leaf computer!

I think it's awfully nice of us to handle the immense power we have in the world responsibly. We could feasibly take some of the world, colonize it, put our people there, and be general bastards... but we won't. We'll probably just use our technology to stop things like Genocide and work to build up other world powers like the European Union. As for muscling our way into Iraq... are you a crazy little boy? The whole thing started because Saddam decided that he wanted to own Kuwait, and we do a lot of business with them. So, we went over there and pushed them back into their country. It's 10 year later as of Monday, and we haven't killed Saddam or stopped his hate, but we've probably kept him from 100's of raids up in the northern part of the country. The Kurds thank us.

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and abour americans hating communism, its basically because of russia, we;ve had a feud with em for a while, and they were communist, so we decided not to like em...basically...

it's been feudalist, tsarist, leninist, and stalinist... and throughout all of those times, totalitarian.

but that's not quite the same thing as being communist.

ask fidel castro.

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This message has been edited by darksol on January 17, 2001 at 11:33 PM

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oh yeah, 1000, yay me!

i don't know what's wrong with canada, but there has to be a reason that 99\% of canadians live within 100 miles of the united states.

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'dancing is the vertical expression of horizontal desire.'
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Originally posted by kuru:
i don't know what's wrong with canada, but there has to be a reason that 99\% of canadians live within 100 miles of the united states.

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I don't know about you, but I live about 40km from the border (that's 25 miles), and it's so cold! I can't think how I could really live up the 50th parallel!

(For the curious, my house is 45°25'N 72°45'W)

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nice sig!

you stupid fuck.

I dunno, but that's what I learned in my Economics, Law, and Politics class...

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However, that is an intriguing idea, a democratic society with a planned economy. I think it would fall apart, but it would be interesting to watch.

Plus, in Alpha Centuri, you can have Planned economics, and Democratic government. Sid Meier is cool.

This message has been edited by darksol on January 18, 2001 at 12:56 PM

we did get our ass handed to us in viet nam, agent orange or not, and we got back a generation of young men who never healed from seeing children come at them with grenades, and from being powerless to stop geurrilla attacks on their own camps because they weren't allowed to cross some line on a map since a politician had decided they were in a police action and not a war.

as for world war ii, thank the united states for the fact that we are not all goose stepping and speaking german.

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'dancing is the vertical expression of horizontal desire.'
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This message has been edited by ic0n0 on January 21, 2001 at 03:27 PM

i'm not 'proud of being an american' because we have nukes. i'm proud of being an american because this is the only true free republic on the face of the planet, and certainly the only one with a consitution that prevents government from overstepping its bounds.

you wanna be part of the 'human race' and forget that you're american, go right ahead. but all those rights that we've all enjoyed from minute one were secured to us through the nationalism, the patriotism, of hundreds of thousands of ordinary people who fought and died so we could wear a damn t-shirt that says 'who farted?'

americans and canadians are different. canada lives under a completely different governmental system than america, and doesn't have a constitution with a bill of rights. america's not socialist, we don't prevent our citizens from owning a gun and keeping it in their house. we choose leaders in elections instead of voting for a political party.

and we don't still bow to the queen of england.

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'dancing is the vertical expression of horizontal desire.'
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If your going to compare us, be sure to gather all the facts first.

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This message has been edited by ic0n0 on January 21, 2001 at 05:32 PM

canada aint bad- and im takling about southern ontario.

btw- george bush just fucked your whole nation and you guys just accepted it.

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Originally posted by masher:
sorry to wade in on this ... debate. But I found a cartoon that the non-americans here may appreciate.
< http://www.nukees.com/d/20000628.html >

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< here > is something else for you non-americans, who think you have us figured out.

This message has been edited by pengu1nn on January 22, 2001 at 12:01 PM

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btw- george bush just fucked your whole nation and you guys just accepted it.

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Not if you voted for him...

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This message has been edited by ic0n0 on January 23, 2001 at 04:35 AM

those of you who wanna move to canada because bush is now president? good. go. get the hell out. if you don't go, quit bitching.

it's put up or shut up time.

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'dancing is the vertical expression of horizontal desire.'
-robert frost

hello can anyone hear me !!!!

/:-?

and jeb bush is the governer of florida.

j/k

about the anarchy part

my road test is tomorrow YAY!!

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Originally posted by Sithiee: you get places by looking out for numero uno. why is the US so great? we dont take shit from anyone. thats respectable.

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You are such an arrogant little shit. "US is the best cuz we kill lotsa people! Bla bla bla!" You self-centered, mother-fucking, asshole. Get over yourself you stupid fuck. Just cuz you SUPPOSEDLY "don't take shit from anyone" doesn't make your country respectable you idiot. This isn't supposed to be a FLAMEWAR, but it is. And all your saying is that you think you have the bigger gun cuz the US is "where it's at" and that the earth should be named Planet USA. "OH! You're so cool now! I wanna be American too!"

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Originally posted by askheaves: Everybody in the world seems to learn English. Everybody gets our movies eventually. They get our computer software.

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Wow, you are one big dumbass. I didn't know people could be that ignorant. Define EVERYBODY? English, granted IS the most used language in the world. Bus since WHEN did it orginate from the US? And howare they YOUR movies? In fact, many companies that do the special effects for "YOUR" movies are Canadian based and many are filmed here. And again, how is it YOUR computer software? Do you mean it's manufactured by a US comapny in Taiwan using child labourers...oh, ok.

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Also posted by askheaves: America has an amazing work ethic by comparison.

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.......AAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA!!! That's funny.

This message has been edited by Vulu on January 24, 2001 at 08:13 AM

End of story.

hell they fucked over a lot of other countries for stupid reasons! and thats not takin shit, its feeding shit. there is a difference.

So you know what, fuck you. I give you the Trudeau Finger.

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Originally posted by damien_s_lucifer:
< THE CANADIANS ARE COMING! THE CANADIANS ARE COMING! >

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That is the fucking shit!!!

VIVE LA RESISTANCE

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When my flying days are over, and my death has come to pass
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and if the us isn't respectable, why the hell are so many foreign countries sending their college students HERE to be educated?

why are nearyly half the students in my department from somewhere OTHER than the united states?

why does japan send us more than double the number of college students we send them?

why is the united states leading in development of high technology? why does the richest person in the entire world come from the united states?

why are transplant patients and other people needing medical care brought to the united states on a daily basis? why do our doctors travel all over the world to provide medical services to people?

and why do people still, by the thousands, risk their lives by crawling across a river, or swimming 90 miles through the ocean, or riding in the back of a sealed truck, or hiding in a cargo plane to get here?

but yeah, there's nothing good about the united states. except our universities, hospitals, and technology firms.

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'dancing is the vertical expression of horizontal desire.'
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Originally posted by kuru:
sithiee: korea and vietnam.

and if the us isn't respectable, why the hell are so many foreign countries sending their college students HERE to be educated?

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thats not respect, kuru.
thats an opportunity for growth.

More like attempts to protect US capitalistic interest.

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Originally posted by darksol:
as my respect for humans once again plumets to a degree far below zero...........My my......so many stupid people arguing that their country is better. Ah well, most people will never change. I weep for the future of the worlds children.

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actually i believe this was to point out how americans are so biased against canadians. topics shift- thats the problem.

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Originally posted by ic0n0:
The only hope is the proletariat, REBEL AGANST THE CAPITAlIST PIG DOGS!! come on now every country uses cheap immigrant labor, i'm not jusifing it, in fact i detest it, but ignoring it doesn't help.

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hes right, immigrant labour is part of the system. north american, american, or canadian. and many other obvious countries.

and they wouldn't see an american university education as an opportunity for anything if they didn't respect the institution.

i guess that's why i've talked to canadians who came HERE to go to college so they would be able to put the name of the school on the resume without being laughed at.

hey, don't get me wrong, i like canada. my american dollar buys more there than it does here.

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kuru
'dancing is the vertical expression of horizontal desire.'
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There, I've said my bit as bringer of peace and laughter and etc..

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This message has been edited by j0eSmith on January 26, 2001 at 12:03 AM

i once had a mountie give me a ride in his car from the theatre that i was at to my hotel because it was freezing and my cab never arrived. very nice young man.

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'dancing is the vertical expression of horizontal desire.'
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Originally posted by pengu1nn:
vulu is a jackass.

his own country doesn't claim him (or anyone from quebec)

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Toucheé. You're absolutely right that I am a jackass. I have never denied the fact that I am one big asshole. But I'm only a prick if either a) I don't like you for whatever reason. Or b) you deserve it. And a is usually a result of b. In an effort to curb this PREDJUDICE against Quebec, I will kindy ask you to suck my fucking cock. Time and time again I have said that I depsise Quebec and the politicians that govern this piece of frenchy crap. But at least I live in Montreal, probably one of the best cities in Canada. Can we stop with the "you're a Quebecer! Haha!" You people have to come with something better...

his own country doesn't claim him (or anyone from quebec)

that he admits it and is proud of it is the really sad part.

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'dancing is the vertical expression of horizontal desire.'
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Originally posted by Sithiee:
i was watching newsradio the other day, and matthew was lookin through dave's personal file, and he found otu he was canadian, and all the coworkers were like "Dave? really? i had no idea..." and it was funny, because he was ashamed of it....yup...

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Yeah, guess what? IT'S A TV SHOW. Fiction doesn't really depict fact. So if you believe what the stupid fucking idiot box, that so many people pride them selves in watching, has to say than, you, my friend, should be the one that is ashamed. Dumbass.

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Originally posted by StanVanDam:
I was in Montreal this past summer. Summersault 2000 was a blast! Were u there Vulu?

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I was there and it KICKED ASS!!!! You're damned right it kicked ass!

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oh wait i hate bacon, how can you chew that stuff.

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Originally posted by Vulu:
In an effort to curb this PREDJUDICE against Quebec, I will kindy ask you to suck my fucking cock. Time and time again I have said that I depsise Quebec and the politicians that govern this piece of frenchy crap. But at least I live in Montreal, probably one of the best cities in Canada. Can we stop with the "you're a Quebecer! Haha!" You people have to come with something better...

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sounds like whinning to me. *wine* "don't talk about me, i was just trying to talk shit about a country that i read about in books, and watch on t.v." *wine*

you don't like it? thats funny you didn't seem to mind when you were the one posting shit aobut the us.

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DISCLAIMER
This post contains my opinion and my opinion only. This does NOT represent the opinion of everybody from my social group/city/province/state/country. I will try to base everything I say on facts, but I can't garantee

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First of all, I must say that I am a quebecer, and that I'm happy with it. Although there is one or two minor things I would like to see change, I like the way my province is. Also, if I'm a quebecer, it means that I'm a canadian too. The goes for Canada as for Québec. Although there is one or two minor things I would like to see change, I like the way my country is.

Now, for Vulu, from your original post:

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Originally posted by Vulu:
OK. Maybe someone can explain why every (well, MOST) American HATES Canadians?

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Americans don't hate Canadians. They are making a bit of fun of us, like almost all Canadians are making fun of Quebecers, and almost all Quebecers are making fun of Newfies, and like almost everybody across the board are making fun of blondes (except of Kuru -- we don't know what's your color, but I don't think anyone would dare to make fun of you anw).

It simple as that.

Also for your claim of americans being stupid (I won't quote, but from memory, it seems to be a generic claim across almost all your messages in this topic), well sure there IS stupid americans (ex.: rednecks), but there is stupid canadians too (we got rednecks too). But there is a lot of intelligent and cultured americans AND canadians, so your point is moot.

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This message has been edited by blanalex on January 29, 2001 at 08:57 PM

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Originally posted by pengu1nn:
you don't like it? thats funny you didn't seem to mind when you were the one posting shit aobut the us.

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*ahem* I didn't start the Flamewar. You wanna blame someone? Blame Sithiee. It's not whining. I just don't see how me being from Quebec has any bearing on my knowledge, intelligence and otherwise. Secondly, I never generalized my insults toward Americans. What I SAID was that people should be responsible for the image they portray. If you give off the image of a dumbass, ignorant fuck is it not human nature to assume that most people are like you? You are right blanalex, we DO have stupid Canadians, j0esmith being one of them (we supply the US with water? Uhhhh, yeeeeah...) But have you EVER been ANYWHERE and been called an idiot because you were Canadian? Didn't think so. I'm going to be as honest as I can; I think MOST Americans are ignorant because your society, culture and schooling is focused on you. You don't learn about Canada or Europe. Asia or South America. Your history classes are filled with Columbus, Vietnam and everything American. While I agree it is VERY important to learn about your founding fathers and the people who fought for your country, is it not important to learn about other cultures and people? I'm sorry if I've offended anybody, if you think I'm generalizing by saying most Americans, I apologize; this is and was not my intent...

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Personnaly, I think that everyone should live in harmony.
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While I believe that you think what you are saying, but you really should check your sig before posting

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(we supply the US with water? Uhhhh, yeeeeah...)

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Listen, fucknugget. Fact is we do sell water to the United States. A good deal of it come from BC. Hell, one of the guys here who used to own one of the sawmills here left and went into water exportation and made a whole shitload of $$ (somewhere around 2 Million to be more precise). While it is true that most of it does go to California, some does go elsewhere.Besides which, last time I checked, Cali was still a part of the United States.

So do you have any thing else you would like to say, shithead? Hrm? Want to argue over the colour of the sky (yeah, I know its brown from where your from)? Maybe we can debate whether or not the Earth travels around the sun? You know what, Eat Shit you arrogant little fuck. Nobody heres gives a rats ass about anything you can come up with. Nobody cares that your from Quebec, your still a dumbass-at-large.

blanalex had it right. We all like to make fun of different people. The States like to lampoon Canada. Westerners like to make fun of Quebec, Eastrners like to make fun of Newfoundland. The Irish make fun of the English etc etc etc

Vulu, go crawl back up under whatever pile of shit you spawned from and save the taxpayers the trouble.

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This message has been edited by Vulu on January 30, 2001 at 07:02 PM

This message has been edited by Vulu on January 30, 2001 at 07:01 PM

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Originally posted by Vulu:
OK. Maybe someone can explain why every (well, MOST) American HATES Canadians? I'm sick of this "You stupid Canuck, hyuck! Go back ta Canaduh!" FUCK OFF...
Do I insult Americans? I COULD, but I don't. Cuz I have RESPECT...

Just testing

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Originally posted by Vulu:
Listen whoremeat, I'll tell you what. PROVE IT. Find THREE sites made/updated in the past year that prove your "water theory." Weren't YOU the one alienating me because I'm from Quebec? So did give me that "we don't care if you're from Quebec bullshit." I'll go crawl under my rock when fuckers like you OPEN YOUR EYES. How the fuck am I arrogant? Again, prove it.

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You couldn't just let this topic die, don't you????

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Boom.

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